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by Eugeny N Dzhurinsky-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello!

We have to develop an application which need to parse WSDL file, extract list
of available methods from it and expose to upper layer as a list of interfaces
like below:

public interface FunctionInterface {
    public ObjectParam exec(ObjectParam param);
};

ObjectParam offers methods like
String getItem(String name);
byte[] getItem(String name);
...

setItem(String name, String value);
setItem(String name, byte[] value);
...

So in general it seems to be possible to map fields in ObjectParam to create
some form of SOAP request to given method with given attributes and types.

We need to implement one or several implementations of FunctionInterface,
which could create SOAP call to given service, knowing the parameters which
are needed to call the service, and obviously convert the data from
ObjectParam properties into some form expected by the method.

One of key feature is there should be no generated source, needed to be
shipped together with software package, so every parsing and call needs to be
invoked dynamically.

For now I have several questions:

- is it possible using WSIF get list of functions exposed by some service as a
WSDL descriptor?

- is it possible to recognize parameter types, and dynamically bind some
marshallers/unmarshallers to them?

Thank you in advance!

--
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Re: wsif evaluation questions

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Hi,

I did a similar project using WSIF. Mine involved consming several web
services that are exposed through thier WSDL.

However as you know there are simple types and custom types in WSDL files.

Total dynamic invocation will work fine for simple types where parameter
types will be recognised on the fly.

You will have to generate stubs if your WSDL has complex/custom types. The
process is thus not totally automated.

If you have downloaded WSIF you will see and example of dii in the
simpletype example and also one on complex types using stubs.

Otherwise it is very easy to create a wrapper object and call appropriate
methods and build that into a standalone library which you can use
anywhere.

Hope that helps!

Murvin

> Hello!
>
> We have to develop an application which need to parse WSDL file, extract
> list
> of available methods from it and expose to upper layer as a list of
> interfaces
> like below:
>
> public interface FunctionInterface {
>     public ObjectParam exec(ObjectParam param);
> };
>
> ObjectParam offers methods like
> String getItem(String name);
> byte[] getItem(String name);
> ...
>
> setItem(String name, String value);
> setItem(String name, byte[] value);
> ...
>
> So in general it seems to be possible to map fields in ObjectParam to
> create
> some form of SOAP request to given method with given attributes and types.
>
> We need to implement one or several implementations of FunctionInterface,
> which could create SOAP call to given service, knowing the parameters
> which
> are needed to call the service, and obviously convert the data from
> ObjectParam properties into some form expected by the method.
>
> One of key feature is there should be no generated source, needed to be
> shipped together with software package, so every parsing and call needs to
> be
> invoked dynamically.
>
> For now I have several questions:
>
> - is it possible using WSIF get list of functions exposed by some service
> as a
> WSDL descriptor?
>
> - is it possible to recognize parameter types, and dynamically bind some
> marshallers/unmarshallers to them?
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
> --
> Eugene N Dzhurinsky
>



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Re: wsif evaluation questions

by Eugeny N Dzhurinsky-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 03:21:00PM +0100, Murvin Bhantooa wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I did a similar project using WSIF. Mine involved consming several web
> services that are exposed through thier WSDL.
>
> However as you know there are simple types and custom types in WSDL files.
>
> Total dynamic invocation will work fine for simple types where parameter
> types will be recognised on the fly.
>
> You will have to generate stubs if your WSDL has complex/custom types. The
> process is thus not totally automated.
>
> If you have downloaded WSIF you will see and example of dii in the
> simpletype example and also one on complex types using stubs.
>
> Otherwise it is very easy to create a wrapper object and call appropriate
> methods and build that into a standalone library which you can use
> anywhere.
Does it mean I can ever about the usage of  WSIF but create my own library?
I'm not sure it is easy to parse WSDL descriptor and then call the method
through SOAP?

Or it is possible to create simple wrapper/facade over WSDI core, which will
convert things from ObjectParam into something acceptable by WSIF, and parse
back results returned by WSIF methods back into ObjectParam?

--
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Re: wsif evaluation questions

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You can do dynamic invocation using WSIF even if complex types are
involved.  You just can't do simple data binding.

Suppose without loss of generality that the web service requests and
responses are in the form of SOAP messages.  The complex types included
in a response will correspond to some XML elements in the message.  If
you are doing dynamic invocation, you're not going to have Java classes
defined corresponding to each of the complex types unless you generate
code from the WSDL.  Presuming that you're not going to do that in a
dynamic invocation, you can work with the org.w3c.dom.Element itself or
some wrapper class you build around it.  Thus, any complex type is
deserialized into an Element or your ComplexTypeWrapper.  In the latter
case, the type name extracted from the wsdls corresponding to the
element can be included in the wrapper instance, and then the
information extracted from the wsdl and schemas about the type can be
applied during processing by the client.  Similarly, when building a web
service request, you'll have to assemble Elements corresponding to the
complex types needed in the input.  Nothing is really lost here because
again, you don't have a class around in your application corresponding
to that complex type anyway.

The only special WSIF machinery you need for this is a type mapping for
each complex type to ComplexTypeWrapper or Element.  These type mappings
would be created on each invocation based on information in the wsdl and
schemas.  They are usually only needed for the complex types
corresponding to the "parts" of the input and output messages.

Jeff

Murvin Bhantooa wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I did a similar project using WSIF. Mine involved consming several web
> services that are exposed through thier WSDL.
>
> However as you know there are simple types and custom types in WSDL files.
>
> Total dynamic invocation will work fine for simple types where parameter
> types will be recognised on the fly.
>
> You will have to generate stubs if your WSDL has complex/custom types. The
> process is thus not totally automated.
>
> If you have downloaded WSIF you will see and example of dii in the
> simpletype example and also one on complex types using stubs.
>
> Otherwise it is very easy to create a wrapper object and call appropriate
> methods and build that into a standalone library which you can use
> anywhere.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Murvin
>
>  
>> Hello!
>>
>> We have to develop an application which need to parse WSDL file, extract
>> list
>> of available methods from it and expose to upper layer as a list of
>> interfaces
>> like below:
>>
>> public interface FunctionInterface {
>>     public ObjectParam exec(ObjectParam param);
>> };
>>
>> ObjectParam offers methods like
>> String getItem(String name);
>> byte[] getItem(String name);
>> ...
>>
>> setItem(String name, String value);
>> setItem(String name, byte[] value);
>> ...
>>
>> So in general it seems to be possible to map fields in ObjectParam to
>> create
>> some form of SOAP request to given method with given attributes and types.
>>
>> We need to implement one or several implementations of FunctionInterface,
>> which could create SOAP call to given service, knowing the parameters
>> which
>> are needed to call the service, and obviously convert the data from
>> ObjectParam properties into some form expected by the method.
>>
>> One of key feature is there should be no generated source, needed to be
>> shipped together with software package, so every parsing and call needs to
>> be
>> invoked dynamically.
>>
>> For now I have several questions:
>>
>> - is it possible using WSIF get list of functions exposed by some service
>> as a
>> WSDL descriptor?
>>
>> - is it possible to recognize parameter types, and dynamically bind some
>> marshallers/unmarshallers to them?
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> --
>> Eugene N Dzhurinsky
>>
>>    
>
>
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Re: wsif evaluation questions

by Murvin Bhantooa :: Rate this Message:

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Excellent point Jeff.

I lost some hours around this issue in WSIF and finally gave up dnamic
invocation and generated all my stubs with WSDL2Java axis library. I could
then map my types handy.

When I read that JROM had been removed from WSIF I gave up my dii dreams.

I would really appreciate a sample code where you actually implemented
that dude.Would that be possible?

I believe in mutual support. Given that we both seem to SOA oriented we
could share stuffs and help each other.

Murvin

> You can do dynamic invocation using WSIF even if complex types are
> involved.  You just can't do simple data binding.
>
> Suppose without loss of generality that the web service requests and
> responses are in the form of SOAP messages.  The complex types included
> in a response will correspond to some XML elements in the message.  If
> you are doing dynamic invocation, you're not going to have Java classes
> defined corresponding to each of the complex types unless you generate
> code from the WSDL.  Presuming that you're not going to do that in a
> dynamic invocation, you can work with the org.w3c.dom.Element itself or
> some wrapper class you build around it.  Thus, any complex type is
> deserialized into an Element or your ComplexTypeWrapper.  In the latter
> case, the type name extracted from the wsdls corresponding to the
> element can be included in the wrapper instance, and then the
> information extracted from the wsdl and schemas about the type can be
> applied during processing by the client.  Similarly, when building a web
> service request, you'll have to assemble Elements corresponding to the
> complex types needed in the input.  Nothing is really lost here because
> again, you don't have a class around in your application corresponding
> to that complex type anyway.
>
> The only special WSIF machinery you need for this is a type mapping for
> each complex type to ComplexTypeWrapper or Element.  These type mappings
> would be created on each invocation based on information in the wsdl and
> schemas.  They are usually only needed for the complex types
> corresponding to the "parts" of the input and output messages.
>
> Jeff
>
> Murvin Bhantooa wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did a similar project using WSIF. Mine involved consming several web
>> services that are exposed through thier WSDL.
>>
>> However as you know there are simple types and custom types in WSDL
>> files.
>>
>> Total dynamic invocation will work fine for simple types where parameter
>> types will be recognised on the fly.
>>
>> You will have to generate stubs if your WSDL has complex/custom types.
>> The
>> process is thus not totally automated.
>>
>> If you have downloaded WSIF you will see and example of dii in the
>> simpletype example and also one on complex types using stubs.
>>
>> Otherwise it is very easy to create a wrapper object and call
>> appropriate
>> methods and build that into a standalone library which you can use
>> anywhere.
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Murvin
>>
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> We have to develop an application which need to parse WSDL file,
>>> extract
>>> list
>>> of available methods from it and expose to upper layer as a list of
>>> interfaces
>>> like below:
>>>
>>> public interface FunctionInterface {
>>>     public ObjectParam exec(ObjectParam param);
>>> };
>>>
>>> ObjectParam offers methods like
>>> String getItem(String name);
>>> byte[] getItem(String name);
>>> ...
>>>
>>> setItem(String name, String value);
>>> setItem(String name, byte[] value);
>>> ...
>>>
>>> So in general it seems to be possible to map fields in ObjectParam to
>>> create
>>> some form of SOAP request to given method with given attributes and
>>> types.
>>>
>>> We need to implement one or several implementations of
>>> FunctionInterface,
>>> which could create SOAP call to given service, knowing the parameters
>>> which
>>> are needed to call the service, and obviously convert the data from
>>> ObjectParam properties into some form expected by the method.
>>>
>>> One of key feature is there should be no generated source, needed to be
>>> shipped together with software package, so every parsing and call needs
>>> to
>>> be
>>> invoked dynamically.
>>>
>>> For now I have several questions:
>>>
>>> - is it possible using WSIF get list of functions exposed by some
>>> service
>>> as a
>>> WSDL descriptor?
>>>
>>> - is it possible to recognize parameter types, and dynamically bind
>>> some
>>> marshallers/unmarshallers to them?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eugene N Dzhurinsky
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: wsif evaluation questions

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I'm afraid the code is proprietary.  I've tried to help a number of
people on this list do dynamic invocation with complex types at one
time or another, but I can't share code.  I started from the
DynamicInvoker sample.

Jeff

On 10/17/07, Murvin Bhantooa <mbhantoo@...> wrote:

> Excellent point Jeff.
>
> I lost some hours around this issue in WSIF and finally gave up dnamic
> invocation and generated all my stubs with WSDL2Java axis library. I could
> then map my types handy.
>
> When I read that JROM had been removed from WSIF I gave up my dii dreams.
>
> I would really appreciate a sample code where you actually implemented
> that dude.Would that be possible?
>
> I believe in mutual support. Given that we both seem to SOA oriented we
> could share stuffs and help each other.
>
> Murvin
>
> > You can do dynamic invocation using WSIF even if complex types are
> > involved.  You just can't do simple data binding.
> >
> > Suppose without loss of generality that the web service requests and
> > responses are in the form of SOAP messages.  The complex types included
> > in a response will correspond to some XML elements in the message.  If
> > you are doing dynamic invocation, you're not going to have Java classes
> > defined corresponding to each of the complex types unless you generate
> > code from the WSDL.  Presuming that you're not going to do that in a
> > dynamic invocation, you can work with the org.w3c.dom.Element itself or
> > some wrapper class you build around it.  Thus, any complex type is
> > deserialized into an Element or your ComplexTypeWrapper.  In the latter
> > case, the type name extracted from the wsdls corresponding to the
> > element can be included in the wrapper instance, and then the
> > information extracted from the wsdl and schemas about the type can be
> > applied during processing by the client.  Similarly, when building a web
> > service request, you'll have to assemble Elements corresponding to the
> > complex types needed in the input.  Nothing is really lost here because
> > again, you don't have a class around in your application corresponding
> > to that complex type anyway.
> >
> > The only special WSIF machinery you need for this is a type mapping for
> > each complex type to ComplexTypeWrapper or Element.  These type mappings
> > would be created on each invocation based on information in the wsdl and
> > schemas.  They are usually only needed for the complex types
> > corresponding to the "parts" of the input and output messages.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Murvin Bhantooa wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I did a similar project using WSIF. Mine involved consming several web
> >> services that are exposed through thier WSDL.
> >>
> >> However as you know there are simple types and custom types in WSDL
> >> files.
> >>
> >> Total dynamic invocation will work fine for simple types where parameter
> >> types will be recognised on the fly.
> >>
> >> You will have to generate stubs if your WSDL has complex/custom types.
> >> The
> >> process is thus not totally automated.
> >>
> >> If you have downloaded WSIF you will see and example of dii in the
> >> simpletype example and also one on complex types using stubs.
> >>
> >> Otherwise it is very easy to create a wrapper object and call
> >> appropriate
> >> methods and build that into a standalone library which you can use
> >> anywhere.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps!
> >>
> >> Murvin
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello!
> >>>
> >>> We have to develop an application which need to parse WSDL file,
> >>> extract
> >>> list
> >>> of available methods from it and expose to upper layer as a list of
> >>> interfaces
> >>> like below:
> >>>
> >>> public interface FunctionInterface {
> >>>     public ObjectParam exec(ObjectParam param);
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> ObjectParam offers methods like
> >>> String getItem(String name);
> >>> byte[] getItem(String name);
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> setItem(String name, String value);
> >>> setItem(String name, byte[] value);
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> So in general it seems to be possible to map fields in ObjectParam to
> >>> create
> >>> some form of SOAP request to given method with given attributes and
> >>> types.
> >>>
> >>> We need to implement one or several implementations of
> >>> FunctionInterface,
> >>> which could create SOAP call to given service, knowing the parameters
> >>> which
> >>> are needed to call the service, and obviously convert the data from
> >>> ObjectParam properties into some form expected by the method.
> >>>
> >>> One of key feature is there should be no generated source, needed to be
> >>> shipped together with software package, so every parsing and call needs
> >>> to
> >>> be
> >>> invoked dynamically.
> >>>
> >>> For now I have several questions:
> >>>
> >>> - is it possible using WSIF get list of functions exposed by some
> >>> service
> >>> as a
> >>> WSDL descriptor?
> >>>
> >>> - is it possible to recognize parameter types, and dynamically bind
> >>> some
> >>> marshallers/unmarshallers to them?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you in advance!
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Eugene N Dzhurinsky
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: wsif evaluation questions

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No bother Jeff,

Thanks for the concept anyway. I'll try to figure it out. I wish I got
more free time!!

Murvin

> I'm afraid the code is proprietary.  I've tried to help a number of
> people on this list do dynamic invocation with complex types at one
> time or another, but I can't share code.  I started from the
> DynamicInvoker sample.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 10/17/07, Murvin Bhantooa <mbhantoo@...> wrote:
>> Excellent point Jeff.
>>
>> I lost some hours around this issue in WSIF and finally gave up dnamic
>> invocation and generated all my stubs with WSDL2Java axis library. I
>> could
>> then map my types handy.
>>
>> When I read that JROM had been removed from WSIF I gave up my dii
>> dreams.
>>
>> I would really appreciate a sample code where you actually implemented
>> that dude.Would that be possible?
>>
>> I believe in mutual support. Given that we both seem to SOA oriented we
>> could share stuffs and help each other.
>>
>> Murvin
>>
>> > You can do dynamic invocation using WSIF even if complex types are
>> > involved.  You just can't do simple data binding.
>> >
>> > Suppose without loss of generality that the web service requests and
>> > responses are in the form of SOAP messages.  The complex types
>> included
>> > in a response will correspond to some XML elements in the message.  If
>> > you are doing dynamic invocation, you're not going to have Java
>> classes
>> > defined corresponding to each of the complex types unless you generate
>> > code from the WSDL.  Presuming that you're not going to do that in a
>> > dynamic invocation, you can work with the org.w3c.dom.Element itself
>> or
>> > some wrapper class you build around it.  Thus, any complex type is
>> > deserialized into an Element or your ComplexTypeWrapper.  In the
>> latter
>> > case, the type name extracted from the wsdls corresponding to the
>> > element can be included in the wrapper instance, and then the
>> > information extracted from the wsdl and schemas about the type can be
>> > applied during processing by the client.  Similarly, when building a
>> web
>> > service request, you'll have to assemble Elements corresponding to the
>> > complex types needed in the input.  Nothing is really lost here
>> because
>> > again, you don't have a class around in your application corresponding
>> > to that complex type anyway.
>> >
>> > The only special WSIF machinery you need for this is a type mapping
>> for
>> > each complex type to ComplexTypeWrapper or Element.  These type
>> mappings
>> > would be created on each invocation based on information in the wsdl
>> and
>> > schemas.  They are usually only needed for the complex types
>> > corresponding to the "parts" of the input and output messages.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> > Murvin Bhantooa wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I did a similar project using WSIF. Mine involved consming several
>> web
>> >> services that are exposed through thier WSDL.
>> >>
>> >> However as you know there are simple types and custom types in WSDL
>> >> files.
>> >>
>> >> Total dynamic invocation will work fine for simple types where
>> parameter
>> >> types will be recognised on the fly.
>> >>
>> >> You will have to generate stubs if your WSDL has complex/custom
>> types.
>> >> The
>> >> process is thus not totally automated.
>> >>
>> >> If you have downloaded WSIF you will see and example of dii in the
>> >> simpletype example and also one on complex types using stubs.
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise it is very easy to create a wrapper object and call
>> >> appropriate
>> >> methods and build that into a standalone library which you can use
>> >> anywhere.
>> >>
>> >> Hope that helps!
>> >>
>> >> Murvin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hello!
>> >>>
>> >>> We have to develop an application which need to parse WSDL file,
>> >>> extract
>> >>> list
>> >>> of available methods from it and expose to upper layer as a list of
>> >>> interfaces
>> >>> like below:
>> >>>
>> >>> public interface FunctionInterface {
>> >>>     public ObjectParam exec(ObjectParam param);
>> >>> };
>> >>>
>> >>> ObjectParam offers methods like
>> >>> String getItem(String name);
>> >>> byte[] getItem(String name);
>> >>> ...
>> >>>
>> >>> setItem(String name, String value);
>> >>> setItem(String name, byte[] value);
>> >>> ...
>> >>>
>> >>> So in general it seems to be possible to map fields in ObjectParam
>> to
>> >>> create
>> >>> some form of SOAP request to given method with given attributes and
>> >>> types.
>> >>>
>> >>> We need to implement one or several implementations of
>> >>> FunctionInterface,
>> >>> which could create SOAP call to given service, knowing the
>> parameters
>> >>> which
>> >>> are needed to call the service, and obviously convert the data from
>> >>> ObjectParam properties into some form expected by the method.
>> >>>
>> >>> One of key feature is there should be no generated source, needed to
>> be
>> >>> shipped together with software package, so every parsing and call
>> needs
>> >>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> invoked dynamically.
>> >>>
>> >>> For now I have several questions:
>> >>>
>> >>> - is it possible using WSIF get list of functions exposed by some
>> >>> service
>> >>> as a
>> >>> WSDL descriptor?
>> >>>
>> >>> - is it possible to recognize parameter types, and dynamically bind
>> >>> some
>> >>> marshallers/unmarshallers to them?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you in advance!
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Eugene N Dzhurinsky
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: wsif evaluation questions

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:44:31AM -0700, Jeff Greif wrote:

> You can do dynamic invocation using WSIF even if complex types are
> involved.  You just can't do simple data binding.
>
> Suppose without loss of generality that the web service requests and
> responses are in the form of SOAP messages.  The complex types included in
> a response will correspond to some XML elements in the message.  If you are
> doing dynamic invocation, you're not going to have Java classes defined
> corresponding to each of the complex types unless you generate code from
> the WSDL.  Presuming that you're not going to do that in a dynamic
> invocation, you can work with the org.w3c.dom.Element itself or some
> wrapper class you build around it.  Thus, any complex type is deserialized
> into an Element or your ComplexTypeWrapper.  In the latter case, the type
> name extracted from the wsdls corresponding to the element can be included
> in the wrapper instance, and then the information extracted from the wsdl
> and schemas about the type can be applied during processing by the client.  
> Similarly, when building a web service request, you'll have to assemble
> Elements corresponding to the complex types needed in the input.  Nothing
> is really lost here because again, you don't have a class around in your
> application corresponding to that complex type anyway.
>
> The only special WSIF machinery you need for this is a type mapping for
> each complex type to ComplexTypeWrapper or Element.  These type mappings
> would be created on each invocation based on information in the wsdl and
> schemas.  They are usually only needed for the complex types corresponding
> to the "parts" of the input and output messages.
Hello, Jeff Greif!
Thank you for prompt response, however it's still not clear for me:

1) could you please explain how can I get list of available methods using
WSIF?

2) is it possible to get type definitions for the parameters and return values
for certain method using WSIF somehow?

3) if I will know such information, will I be able to prepare SOAP call and
invoke remote method with WSIF?

Thank you in advance!

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Re: wsif evaluation questions

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If I remember correctly, the javadoc in the WSIF package does not
include the packages in the wsdl4j library which is part of the
distribution.  That library contains the classes for analyzing a WSDL
document and extracting the information you want.  I don't remember
where that project is currently being maintained, but if you find it via
Google, you can get the documentation for the relevant classes.  The
other piece that may be useful is the org.apache.wsif.schema package,
which has a relatively superficial representation of a schema useful for
web service invocation.

Jeff

Eugeny N Dzhurinsky wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:44:31AM -0700, Jeff Greif wrote:
>  
>> You can do dynamic invocation using WSIF even if complex types are
>> involved.  You just can't do simple data binding.
>>
>> Suppose without loss of generality that the web service requests and
>> responses are in the form of SOAP messages.  The complex types included in
>> a response will correspond to some XML elements in the message.  If you are
>> doing dynamic invocation, you're not going to have Java classes defined
>> corresponding to each of the complex types unless you generate code from
>> the WSDL.  Presuming that you're not going to do that in a dynamic
>> invocation, you can work with the org.w3c.dom.Element itself or some
>> wrapper class you build around it.  Thus, any complex type is deserialized
>> into an Element or your ComplexTypeWrapper.  In the latter case, the type
>> name extracted from the wsdls corresponding to the element can be included
>> in the wrapper instance, and then the information extracted from the wsdl
>> and schemas about the type can be applied during processing by the client.  
>> Similarly, when building a web service request, you'll have to assemble
>> Elements corresponding to the complex types needed in the input.  Nothing
>> is really lost here because again, you don't have a class around in your
>> application corresponding to that complex type anyway.
>>
>> The only special WSIF machinery you need for this is a type mapping for
>> each complex type to ComplexTypeWrapper or Element.  These type mappings
>> would be created on each invocation based on information in the wsdl and
>> schemas.  They are usually only needed for the complex types corresponding
>> to the "parts" of the input and output messages.
>>    
>
> Hello, Jeff Greif!
> Thank you for prompt response, however it's still not clear for me:
>
> 1) could you please explain how can I get list of available methods using
> WSIF?
>
> 2) is it possible to get type definitions for the parameters and return values
> for certain method using WSIF somehow?
>
> 3) if I will know such information, will I be able to prepare SOAP call and
> invoke remote method with WSIF?
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
>  


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