workaround for lack of adjustment layers?

[Megan Milligan]

I'm new to the group.  I'm a diehard photoshop user, interested in
learning more about Gimp.

One of the things I noticed, when trying to recreate a simulated
infrared technique I use in photoshop for some of my photographs, was
a lack of adjustment layers.

Does anyone have a "workaround" or good substitute for the lack of
adjustment layers in Gimp that photoshop has?

Also is there any better way than "desaturate" for creating black &
white photographs?  I normally use channel mixer in photoshop with the
monochrome box checked, but there's no monochrome checkbox in Gimp's
color balance function.

Thanks in advance!

Megan Milligan
www.desertrosemusings.com
www.desertrosedesigns.net

[iplaymusick]

--- In gimpwin-users@..., "Megan Milligan"
<yasminduran@...> wrote:

>
> I'm new to the group.  I'm a diehard photoshop user, interested in
> learning more about Gimp.
>
> One of the things I noticed, when trying to recreate a simulated
> infrared technique I use in photoshop for some of my photographs, was
> a lack of adjustment layers.
>
> Does anyone have a "workaround" or good substitute for the lack of
> adjustment layers in Gimp that photoshop has?
>
> Also is there any better way than "desaturate" for creating black &
> white photographs?  I normally use channel mixer in photoshop with the
> monochrome box checked, but there's no monochrome checkbox in Gimp's
> color balance function.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Megan Milligan
> www.desertrosemusings.com
> www.desertrosedesigns.net
>

If you want to learn about the more advanced features of GIMP I'd
suggest checking out the book Beginning GIMP: From Novice to
Professional.  While the first couple of chapters would be basic
review for you the later ones cover several more advanced topics.  You
can pick up a cheap copy on amazon as well as view the TOC.  You may
like it and then again you may not.  Just throwing it out there ; )

[klausdieterdill]

> --- In gimpwin-users@..., "Megan
> Milligan"
> <yasminduran@...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm new to the group.  I'm a diehard photoshop
> user, interested in
> > learning more about Gimp.
> >
> > One of the things I noticed, when trying to
> recreate a simulated
> > infrared technique I use in photoshop for some of
> my photographs, was
> > a lack of adjustment layers.
> >
> > Does anyone have a "workaround" or good substitute
> for the lack of
> > adjustment layers in Gimp that photoshop has?
> >
> > Also is there any better way than "desaturate" for
> creating black &
> > white photographs?  I normally use channel mixer
> in photoshop with the
> > monochrome box checked, but there's no monochrome
> checkbox in Gimp's
> > color balance function.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Megan Milligan
> > www.desertrosemusings.com
> > www.desertrosedesigns.net
> >
>

you can also look at "the artist's guide to gimp
effects" from no starch press.  it's a very good
tutorial book.
kdd

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[Greg-123]

--- iplaymusick <iplaymusick@...> wrote:
> If you want to learn about the more advanced features of GIMP I'd
> suggest checking out the book Beginning GIMP: From Novice to
> Professional.  While the first couple of chapters would be basic
> review for you the later ones cover several more advanced topics.
> You can pick up a cheap copy on amazon as well as view the TOC.  You
> may like it and then again you may not.  Just throwing it out there.

I got that book and it is quite helpful.  Another good one is, "The
Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects".  The downside to both these books is
they're based on GIMP 2.4 so there's going to be some differences in
functionality.  Other than that, both top-notch books.


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[Jose Pires]

I have 'Beginning GIMP' and I agree that it is a great book that
really can help you using the program. Maybe I would like that it
would go more in-depth here and there and I just passed the eyes
through the chapters more related with drawing (I use Gimp only for
photos).

I don't understand what Greg means by "The downside to both these
books is they're based on GIMP 2.4". Maybe he meant 2,2 and not 2.4.
Anyway, as far as I remember, the book was indeed based in the beta
versions of 2.4, which I never used. When I read the book about one
year ago, I was using v.2.2 and the differences between waht was in
the book and what appeared in Gimp didn't imply  any greater
confusion.

On Feb 20, 2008 4:25 PM, Greg <greg_b@...> wrote:

> --- iplaymusick <iplaymusick@...> wrote:
> > If you want to learn about the more advanced features of GIMP I'd
> > suggest checking out the book Beginning GIMP: From Novice to
> > ...
> > ...
> I got that book and it is quite helpful.  Another good one is, "The
> Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects".  The downside to both these books is
> they're based on GIMP 2.4 so there's going to be some differences in
> functionality.  Other than that, both top-notch books.
>...

[Greg-123]

--- Jose Pires <Jose.Mario.Pires@...> wrote:
> I would like that it would go more in-depth here and there and I just

> passed the eyes through the chapters more related with drawing (I use

> Gimp only for photos).

Well, that's why it's call "Beginning" GIMP.  I'd love to see an
"ADvanced GIMP" book by the same author.

> I don't understand what Greg means by "The downside to both these
> books is they're based on GIMP 2.4". Maybe he meant 2,2 and not 2.4.

Nope, I ment 2.4.  Then I explained why.

> Anyway, as far as I remember, the book was indeed based in the beta
> versions of 2.4, which I never used. When I read the book about one
> year ago, I was using v.2.2 and the differences between waht was in
> the book and what appeared in Gimp didn't imply  any greater
> confusion.

Well, there's the source of your confusion.  Your not using 2.4.
There's been some UI changes since 2.2 that could cause readers some
confusion.  Definitely worth the upgrade, though.


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[Jose Pires]

Oops, I am still in the dark. You mean that the version I use now
(2.4.3) has significant differences in UI from the 2.4.0 RC and betas,
etc?

I agree that the upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4.x is worth.

On Feb 20, 2008 5:34 PM, Greg <greg_b@...> wrote:

> ...
> > I don't understand what Greg means by "The downside to both these
> > books is they're based on GIMP 2.4". Maybe he meant 2,2 and not 2.4.
>
> Nope, I ment 2.4.  Then I explained why.
>
> > Anyway, as far as I remember, the book was indeed based in the beta
> > versions of 2.4, which I never used. When I read the book about one
> > year ago, I was using v.2.2 and the differences between waht was in
> > the book and what appeared in Gimp didn't imply  any greater
> > confusion.
>
> Well, there's the source of your confusion.  Your not using 2.4.
> There's been some UI changes since 2.2 that could cause readers some
> confusion.  Definitely worth the upgrade, though.
> ...
> ...

[Greg-123]

--- Jose Pires <Jose.Mario.Pires@...> wrote:
> Oops, I am still in the dark. You mean that the version I use now
> (2.4.3) has significant differences in UI from the 2.4.0 RC and
> betas, etc?

I wouldn't say "significant", but like I said, they can cause some
confusion.  Like someone going in your house and rearranging all the furniture.


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[toomuchcoffeenotenoughsleep]

I don't have a solution, but something similar I miss from Photoshop
is layer blending. Following is a link to a discussion in the Plug-in
site's forum with links to plugins that offer similar functions:

http://registry.gimp.org/node/212

--- In gimpwin-users@..., <klausdieterdill@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> > --- In gimpwin-users@..., "Megan
> > Milligan"
> > <yasminduran@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm new to the group.  I'm a diehard photoshop
> > user, interested in
> > > learning more about Gimp.
> > >
> > > One of the things I noticed, when trying to
> > recreate a simulated
> > > infrared technique I use in photoshop for some of
> > my photographs, was
> > > a lack of adjustment layers.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a "workaround" or good substitute
> > for the lack of
> > > adjustment layers in Gimp that photoshop has?
> > >
> > > Also is there any better way than "desaturate" for
> > creating black &
> > > white photographs?  I normally use channel mixer
> > in photoshop with the
> > > monochrome box checked, but there's no monochrome
> > checkbox in Gimp's
> > > color balance function.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Megan Milligan
> > > www.desertrosemusings.com
> > > www.desertrosedesigns.net
> > >
> >
>
> you can also look at "the artist's guide to gimp
> effects" from no starch press.  it's a very good
> tutorial book.
> kdd
>
> Ein wahrer Künstler schafft Vorrat ohne Rücksicht auf Nachfrage.
>      Anonymous
>
> web: http://www.studiokdd.com/
>
>
>      

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