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volatile reference vs. AtomicReferenceHi,
I've been wondering whether it makes sense to use AtomicReference instead of a volatile reference, if I only call the get() and set() method of AtomicReference. Or is it that reference assignment is not atomic in 32-bit JVMs? Thanks Peter _______________________________________________ Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest |
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Re: volatile reference vs. AtomicReferenceThere's no difference IMHO.
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Peter Kovacs <peter.kovacs.1.0rc@...> wrote: > Hi, > > I've been wondering whether it makes sense to use AtomicReference > instead of a volatile reference, if I only call the get() and set() > method of AtomicReference. Or is it that reference assignment is not > atomic in 32-bit JVMs? > > Thanks > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Concurrency-interest mailing list > Concurrency-interest@... > http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest > Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest |
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Re: volatile reference vs. AtomicReferenceInternally, AtomicReference uses volatile reference itself
Thanks Praveen -----Original Message----- From: concurrency-interest-bounces@... [mailto:concurrency-interest-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter Kovacs Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:07 PM To: concurrency-interest Subject: [concurrency-interest] volatile reference vs. AtomicReference Hi, I've been wondering whether it makes sense to use AtomicReference instead of a volatile reference, if I only call the get() and set() method of AtomicReference. Or is it that reference assignment is not atomic in 32-bit JVMs? Thanks Peter _______________________________________________ Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest _______________________________________________ Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest |
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Re: volatile reference vs. AtomicReferencePeter Kovacs wrote:
> > I've been wondering whether it makes sense to use AtomicReference > instead of a volatile reference, if I only call the get() and set() > method of AtomicReference. Or is it that reference assignment is not > atomic in 32-bit JVMs? If you use a volatile reference, then it is one less object. OTOH, your code might be more consistent if you use always AtomicReference in place of volatile, and if you find you need one of the other methods the changes is easier. (Although there is AtomicReferenceFieldUpdater.) Tom _______________________________________________ Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest |
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Re: volatile reference vs. AtomicReferenceReference assignment is always atomic.
I wouldn't bother with AtomicReference unless I needed the CAS. But it's a stylistic choice more than anything. David Holmes > -----Original Message----- > From: concurrency-interest-bounces@... > [mailto:concurrency-interest-bounces@...]On Behalf Of Peter > Kovacs > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 6:37 PM > To: concurrency-interest > Subject: [concurrency-interest] volatile reference vs. AtomicReference > > > Hi, > > I've been wondering whether it makes sense to use AtomicReference > instead of a volatile reference, if I only call the get() and set() > method of AtomicReference. Or is it that reference assignment is not > atomic in 32-bit JVMs? > > Thanks > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Concurrency-interest mailing list > Concurrency-interest@... > http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest _______________________________________________ Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest |
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Re: volatile reference vs. AtomicReferenceAn interesting (and useful) consideration. ("Self-documenting code" is
one of my favorite themes, but somehow forgot about it in this case.) Thank you all for your answers. Peter On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Ben Manes <ben_manes@...> wrote: > I prefer AtomicReference instead of volatile simply because it is more > obvious to other developers and they can quickly look at the JavaDoc. That > means that if someone who is looking at my code and does not work regularly > with threads, it shouldn't be a surprise. Most Java developers I've met > don't quite understand volatile, so its one less thing to confuse them. > Pretty much stylistic, as David said, since they perform comparably... > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Holmes <dcholmes@...> > To: concurrency-interest <Concurrency-interest@...> > Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 4:49:42 AM > Subject: Re: [concurrency-interest] volatile reference vs. AtomicReference > > Reference assignment is always atomic. > > I wouldn't bother with AtomicReference unless I needed the CAS. But it's a > stylistic choice more than anything. > > David Holmes > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: concurrency-interest-bounces@... >> [mailto:concurrency-interest-bounces@...]On Behalf Of Peter >> Kovacs >> Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 6:37 PM >> To: concurrency-interest >> Subject: [concurrency-interest] volatile reference vs. AtomicReference >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been wondering whether it makes sense to use AtomicReference >> instead of a volatile reference, if I only call the get() and set() >> method of AtomicReference. Or is it that reference assignment is not >> atomic in 32-bit JVMs? >> >> Thanks >> Peter >> _______________________________________________ >> Concurrency-interest mailing list >> Concurrency-interest@... >> http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest > > _______________________________________________ > Concurrency-interest mailing list > Concurrency-interest@... > http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest > > > _______________________________________________ > Concurrency-interest mailing list > Concurrency-interest@... > http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest > > Concurrency-interest mailing list Concurrency-interest@... http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/mailman/listinfo/concurrency-interest |
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