ttk::buttons using Toolbutton style by default?

[Kevin Walzer-5]

I've noticed a strange bug cropping up in one of my applications: the
appearance of ttk::buttons.

See the screenshot below:

http://www.codebykevin.com/tilebuttons.png

These buttons appear to be utilizing the Toolbutton style, but I haven't
set them up that way. Here is the code that calls them:

     ttk::frame .preferences.push -padding 10
     pack .preferences.push -side bottom -fill both -expand yes

     ttk::button .preferences.push.button -command "savePref; destroy
.preferences" -text "Save Preferences"
     ttk::button .preferences.push.restore -command "restorePref;
destroy .preferences" -text "Restore Defaults"
     ttk::button .preferences.push.cancel -text "Cancel" -command
"destroy .preferences"
     pack  preferences.push.button .preferences.push.restore
.preferences.push.cancel -side right -fill both -expand no

Any idea what might be causing these to look this way?

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[Joe English-2]

Kevin Walzer wrote:
> [...]
> These buttons appear to be utilizing the Toolbutton style, but I haven't
> set them up that way. Here is the code that calls them:
>      ttk::frame .preferences.push -padding 10
>      pack .preferences.push -side bottom -fill both -expand yes
>      ttk::button .preferences.push.button -command "savePref; destroy
> .preferences" -text "Save Preferences"
> [...]

Check the option database:

        option get .preferences.push.button style Style

If that returns "Toolbutton", grep your source for
'option add .* Toolbutton' to see where it's coming from.

If that returns the empty string, I'm stumped ...


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[Kevin Walzer-5]

Joe English wrote:

> Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> [...]
>> These buttons appear to be utilizing the Toolbutton style, but I haven't
>> set them up that way. Here is the code that calls them:
>>      ttk::frame .preferences.push -padding 10
>>      pack .preferences.push -side bottom -fill both -expand yes
>>      ttk::button .preferences.push.button -command "savePref; destroy
>> .preferences" -text "Save Preferences"
>> [...]
>
> Check the option database:
>
> option get .preferences.push.button style Style
>
> If that returns "Toolbutton", grep your source for
> 'option add .* Toolbutton' to see where it's coming from.
>
> If that returns the empty string, I'm stumped ...
>
>
> --JE

It does return the empty string.

What's especially weird is that the buttons use the normal TButton style
if I grid them; it's packing them that messes things up. Even more
strange, even if I explicitly configure the style as TButton, they
display as Toolbutton if I pack them.

This doesn't happen in other instances when I pack ttk::buttons--it only
happens here.

This is with Tk 8.5.0 on Leopard.

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[Damon Courtney]

> It does return the empty string.
>
> What's especially weird is that the buttons use the normal TButton  
> style
> if I grid them; it's packing them that messes things up. Even more
> strange, even if I explicitly configure the style as TButton, they
> display as Toolbutton if I pack them.
>
> This doesn't happen in other instances when I pack ttk::buttons--it  
> only
> happens here.
>
> This is with Tk 8.5.0 on Leopard.

     Are you packing with -fill both or something?  The Aqua buttons  
are only allowed to be the standard height.  If there is even one  
pixel of height difference, Ttk automatically converts them to the  
Toolbutton-looking style.  I would assume this is because the the  
jelly bean buttons can't grow vertically.

     How are you packing them?

D

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[Kevin Walzer-5]

Damon Courtney wrote:

>
>      Are you packing with -fill both or something?  The Aqua buttons  
> are only allowed to be the standard height.  If there is even one  
> pixel of height difference, Ttk automatically converts them to the  
> Toolbutton-looking style.  I would assume this is because the the  
> jelly bean buttons can't grow vertically.
>

Hmmm, that's the culprit. I removed "-fill" and that solved the problem.
I had no idea ttk had this behavior.

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[Joe English-2]

Damon Courtney wrote:
>
>      Are you packing with -fill both or something?  The Aqua buttons  
> are only allowed to be the standard height.  If there is even one  
> pixel of height difference, Ttk automatically converts them to the  
> Toolbutton-looking style.  I would assume this is because the the  
> jelly bean buttons can't grow vertically.

It does?  I was not aware of this...

The core ::button widget might work this way, but
not the ttk::button -- at least not intentionally.
If this is happening with ttk::buttons, it must be
due to some undocumented feature of DrawThemeButton().

Kevin, what does [$w cget -style] say?  If it's not
being set from the option database, maybe something
else is changing it?


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[Damon Courtney-4]

wm geometry . 300x300
ttk::button .b -text Foo
pack .b -expand 1 -fill both

D


On Feb 22, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Joe English wrote:

>
> Damon Courtney wrote:
>>
>>     Are you packing with -fill both or something?  The Aqua buttons
>> are only allowed to be the standard height.  If there is even one
>> pixel of height difference, Ttk automatically converts them to the
>> Toolbutton-looking style.  I would assume this is because the the
>> jelly bean buttons can't grow vertically.
>
> It does?  I was not aware of this...
>
> The core ::button widget might work this way, but
> not the ttk::button -- at least not intentionally.
> If this is happening with ttk::buttons, it must be
> due to some undocumented feature of DrawThemeButton().
>
> Kevin, what does [$w cget -style] say?  If it's not
> being set from the option database, maybe something
> else is changing it?
>
>
> --JE
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[Joe English-2]

Damon Courtney wrote:

> Joe English wrote:
> > Damon Courtney wrote:
> >>     Are you packing with -fill both or something?  The Aqua buttons
> >> are only allowed to be the standard height.  If there is even one
> >> pixel of height difference, Ttk automatically converts them to the
> >> Toolbutton-looking style.  I would assume this is because the the
> >> jelly bean buttons can't grow vertically.
> >
> > It does?  I was not aware of this...
> >
> > The core ::button widget might work this way, but
> > not the ttk::button -- at least not intentionally.
> > If this is happening with ttk::buttons, it must be
> > due to some undocumented feature of DrawThemeButton().
>
> wm geometry . 300x300
> ttk::button .b -text Foo
> pack .b -expand 1 -fill both

I'm not seeing the behavior you describe (with core buttons
or ttk::buttons).  Is this a Leopard-only phenomenon?


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[Kevin Walzer-5]

Joe English wrote:

> Damon Courtney wrote:
>> Joe English wrote:
>>> Damon Courtney wrote:
>>>>     Are you packing with -fill both or something?  The Aqua buttons
>>>> are only allowed to be the standard height.  If there is even one
>>>> pixel of height difference, Ttk automatically converts them to the
>>>> Toolbutton-looking style.  I would assume this is because the the
>>>> jelly bean buttons can't grow vertically.
>>> It does?  I was not aware of this...
>>>
>>> The core ::button widget might work this way, but
>>> not the ttk::button -- at least not intentionally.
>>> If this is happening with ttk::buttons, it must be
>>> due to some undocumented feature of DrawThemeButton().
>> wm geometry . 300x300
>> ttk::button .b -text Foo
>> pack .b -expand 1 -fill both
>
>
> I'm not seeing the behavior you describe (with core buttons
> or ttk::buttons).  Is this a Leopard-only phenomenon?
>

Perhaps--I do see the described behavior on Leopard.
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[J. Todd Slack-Moehrle]

Hi All,

I wrote a while back about some introductory thoughts on using TCL and TK as
my primary development toolkit/platform. I am finally ready to begin now
that my job has come to an end and I have my days to really focus.

So my first task I was thinking about was creating an iTunes Plug-in using
the visualizer SDK.

Just so I understand, can one call tcl/tk from C++ and such? Can one
interface with Apple's Webkit and suck from TCL/TK or is there a widget for
TK where I can present a web page type interface?

Basically, I have to use the visualizer SDK however.

I know these are basic, weird questions, I am just trying to guage
everything and start putting tcl/tk to use with current projects that I have
been offered. I was planning on blogging my start with tcl/tk and making the
whole blog available for others.

Thanks,
-Jason




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[Virden, Larry W.]

 
I've never developed on MacOS, so these comments are going to be from a
more generic sense.

> can one call tcl/tk from C++ and such?

Tcl was originally intended to be "just another C library", callable
from an application. _However_, many people today go at their program
design from the other side - writing a Tcl program, and creating
"packages" of C code for specialized things (like visualiser sdks, jpeg
libraries, whatever...).

> Can one interface with Apple's Webkit and suck from TCL/TK

I don't know the answer to this one - but I suspect others on this list
do.

> or is there a widget for TK where I can present a web page type
interface?

There is a "third party" widget called "tkhtml" that has _some_ of this
type functionality.

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[Philip Aker-3]

On 08-02-25, at 11:30, J. Todd Slack wrote:

> Just so I understand, can one call tcl/tk from C++ and such?

Yes, most of my experience is just with the Tcl.framework though.


> Can one interface with Apple's Webkit and suck from TCL/TK

Yes. I'm using a Carbon HIWebView for this. You'll have to tweak the  
example to be able to take it anywhere and there is a well known bug  
that you can only embed it into the content view. Also, last year,  
several people were complaining about mouse clicks for flash plugins  
but I think it was discovered to be a bug with flash.


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[Kevan Hashemi]

Dear Philip,

>> Just so I understand, can one call tcl/tk from C++ and such?
>
> Yes, most of my experience is just with the Tcl.framework though.

Yes, you can call Tk from C++, you can call C++ from Tk, and you can do
both at the same time. It sounds circular, but it all works out at link
time.

You declare the Tk routines as external, and resolve them at link time
by linking to the Frameworks with compiler options like this:

-F../YourApp.app/Contents/Frameworks -framework Tcl -framework Tk

One of the routins you declare as external is:

Tcl_CreateObjCommand

This routine installs one of your own C (or C++ or Pascal or whatever)
routine as a command available in the TCLTK interpreter. Your routine
must have a particular format: particular parameters and result.

Inside your own C code, you call Tk routines by name. For example, you
can call Tcl_Eval, to which you pass a string that gets evaluated in the
TCLTK interpreter.

Yours, Kevan

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