strange install question...

[Scott Chevalley]

I'm still running 32 bit cooker and I haven't had time to go through an
install of the 64 bit version.  What I'd like to know is, is there a way
to install the 64 bit mandriva onto a new partition while running the
32bit version, ie chroot or something else?

Just a thought since I have no time to be at my pc in person I thought I
could do that via ssh while at work... :)

Thanks,
Scott

[Guy Rouillier-2]

scott chevalley wrote:
> I'm still running 32 bit cooker and I haven't had time to go through an
> install of the 64 bit version.  What I'd like to know is, is there a way
> to install the 64 bit mandriva onto a new partition while running the
> 32bit version, ie chroot or something else?
> Just a thought since I have no time to be at my pc in person I thought I
> could do that via ssh while at work... :)

Absolutely.  No need for chroot.  Just install into a different
partition, then add the new installation to your existing boot menu
(grub or lilo, both work fine.)  Then pick which one you want to run at
boot time.

--
Guy Rouillier

[Scott Chevalley]

Guy Rouillier wrote:

> scott chevalley wrote:
>> I'm still running 32 bit cooker and I haven't had time to go through
>> an install of the 64 bit version.  What I'd like to know is, is there
>> a way to install the 64 bit mandriva onto a new partition while
>> running the 32bit version, ie chroot or something else?
>> Just a thought since I have no time to be at my pc in person I
>> thought I could do that via ssh while at work... :)
>
> Absolutely.  No need for chroot.  Just install into a different
> partition, then add the new installation to your existing boot menu
> (grub or lilo, both work fine.)  Then pick which one you want to run
> at boot time.
>

How would I start such an install?  I can't boot remotely, so is there a
way to start the install another way?

Sorry if these are stupid questions... :)

Thanks,
Scott

[patrick-darcy]

hows it coming along ?

[Gwenole Beauchesne]

Le vendredi, 21 avr 2006, à 05:52 Europe/Paris, patrick_darcy a écrit :

> hows it coming along ?

If you are using 2006 you can use the new drakxtools packages I  
uploaded to the 2006-branch, or get the upcoming update CD:
<http://people.mandriva.com/~gbeauchesne/x86_64/2006/Mandriva-Linux- 
CoreUpdates-2006-CD.x86_64.idx>
It is currently available to Intel, I will respin the ISO set with the  
correct Official key, and I am still trying to convince Club people of  
the usefulness to have the ISOs available to all members too.

Note that the updated drakxtools generates correct new configurations.  
If you have older ones, you may have to remove the "IgnoreEDID" line  
and replace occurences of Virtual X Y with Modes "XxY". There was no  
cleaner way to handle that as the maintainer is on vacation and I am  
not familiar enough with this part of the installer code. So I wrote  
something in a non intrusive way.

[Yehudi Levine]

Just thought I'd tell you that the new method with Mode does not work
with my FX5200 graphics card. The xserver refuses to start. But normal
service was resumed when I reverted to the old Virtual configuration.
Can I draw the conclusion that the configuratio file needed depends on
the combination of mobo and graphics card?

___________________________________
Yehudi Levine
Nijenheim 64-01
3704 BN Zeist
The Netherlands

Phone: [phone]
Fax:   [phone]




Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:

> Le vendredi, 21 avr 2006, à 05:52 Europe/Paris, patrick_darcy a écrit :
>
>> hows it coming along ?
>
> If you are using 2006 you can use the new drakxtools packages I
> uploaded to the 2006-branch, or get the upcoming update CD:
> <http://people.mandriva.com/~gbeauchesne/x86_64/2006/Mandriva-Linux-CoreUpdates-2006-CD.x86_64.idx>
>
> It is currently available to Intel, I will respin the ISO set with the
> correct Official key, and I am still trying to convince Club people of
> the usefulness to have the ISOs available to all members too.
>
> Note that the updated drakxtools generates correct new configurations.
> If you have older ones, you may have to remove the "IgnoreEDID" line
> and replace occurences of Virtual X Y with Modes "XxY". There was no
> cleaner way to handle that as the maintainer is on vacation and I am
> not familiar enough with this part of the installer code. So I wrote
> something in a non intrusive way.
>
>
>
>

[Gwenole Beauchesne]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Yehudi Levine wrote:

> Just thought I'd tell you that the new method with Mode does not work
> with my FX5200 graphics card. The xserver refuses to start. But normal
> service was resumed when I reverted to the old Virtual configuration.

Please startx -- -logverbose 6

Then look at the Modes validation section. The nvidia driver is expected
to get the EDID block from your monitor. Some Modes may need the refresh
rate appended, something like Modes "1280x1024_70" IIRC.

[Yehudi Levine]

I have installed the new drakxtools packages and reconfigured my FX5200
card using XFdrake. This generates an xorg.conf file using the Virtual
syntax. So I changed all the Virtuals to Mode manually and reran
XFdrake. Now my card is recognised as a frame-grabber and when I change
the configuration to nvidia, the virtual statements return.

Just for fun I installed the packages on the updatecd.idx list , which I
got off the  mirrors. Odd things happen. The ghostscript-common package
conflicted with previous installations and the ghostript packages could
only be installed with the -U option. In addition I had to install a
number of packages from cooker to be able to refresh the gutenberg and
foomatic updates.

Also, the update cd contains the 4.0.1-5mdk gcc packages, but the
2.6.12-19mdk kernel was compiled with the 4.0.3 version. Should the
latter packages be included instead?

Best, Yehudi

--
___________________________________
Yehudi Levine
Nijenheim 64-01
3704 BN Zeist
The Netherlands

Phone: [phone]
Fax:   [phone]

[Giuseppe Ghibò]

Gwenole Beauchesne ha scritto:

> Le vendredi, 21 avr 2006, à 05:52 Europe/Paris, patrick_darcy a écrit :
>
>> hows it coming along ?
>
>
> If you are using 2006 you can use the new drakxtools packages I  
> uploaded to the 2006-branch, or get the upcoming update CD:
> <http://people.mandriva.com/~gbeauchesne/x86_64/2006/Mandriva-Linux- 
> CoreUpdates-2006-CD.x86_64.idx>

Will it include a newer stage2 boot based on 2.6.12.19mdk?

> It is currently available to Intel, I will respin the ISO set with the  
> correct Official key, and I am still trying to convince Club people of  
> the usefulness to have the ISOs available to all members too.

I've seen the list does not include a newer nmap. Can we have a newer nmap
there? the current 3.81 one is not working properly.

[Giuseppe Ghibò]

Yehudi Levine ha scritto:

 > I have installed the new drakxtools packages and reconfigured my FX5200
 > card using XFdrake. This generates an xorg.conf file using the Virtual
 > syntax. So I changed all the Virtuals to Mode manually and reran
 > XFdrake. Now my card is recognised as a frame-grabber and when I change
 > the configuration to nvidia, the virtual statements return.
 >
 > Just for fun I installed the packages on the updatecd.idx list , which I
 > got off the  mirrors. Odd things happen. The ghostscript-common package
 > conflicted with previous installations and the ghostript packages could
 > only be installed with the -U option. In addition I had to install a
 > number of packages from cooker to be able to refresh the gutenberg and
 > foomatic updates.

probably because newer ghostscript from community 2006
has been further splitten and now uses the lib64gs-*.

 >
 > Also, the update cd contains the 4.0.1-5mdk gcc packages, but the
 > 2.6.12-19mdk kernel was compiled with the 4.0.3 version. Should the
 > latter packages be included instead?

An application complaining about this latter stuff is vmware
when recompiling vmnet modules.

Bye.
Giuseppe.

[Giuseppe Ghibò]

Gwenole Beauchesne ha scritto:
> Le vendredi, 21 avr 2006, à 05:52 Europe/Paris, patrick_darcy a écrit :
>
>> hows it coming along ?
>
>
> If you are using 2006 you can use the new drakxtools packages I  
> uploaded to the 2006-branch, or get the upcoming update CD:
> <http://people.mandriva.com/~gbeauchesne/x86_64/2006/Mandriva-Linux- 
> CoreUpdates-2006-CD.x86_64.idx>

Why the update 2006.0-Update1-CD include packages which are
alread in the main one, such as:

glibc-2.3.5-5mdk.x86_64

? Furthermore shouldn't go there the libraries from community 2006,
i.e. 2.3.6-3mdk?

Bye
Giuseppe.

[Gwenole Beauchesne]

Le lundi, 24 avr 2006, à 18:25 Europe/Paris, Giuseppe Ghibò a écrit :

>> Le vendredi, 21 avr 2006, à 05:52 Europe/Paris, patrick_darcy a écrit
>> :
>>> hows it coming along ?
>> If you are using 2006 you can use the new drakxtools packages I  
>> uploaded to the 2006-branch, or get the upcoming update CD:
>> <http://people.mandriva.com/~gbeauchesne/x86_64/2006/Mandriva-Linux- 
>> CoreUpdates-2006-CD.x86_64.idx>
>
> Will it include a newer stage2 boot based on 2.6.12.19mdk?

There is no such "stage2 boot". However, the stage2 is rebuilt to
contain the new modules, it cannot work otherwise...

>> It is currently available to Intel, I will respin the ISO set with
>> the  correct Official key, and I am still trying to convince Club
>> people of  the usefulness to have the ISOs available to all members
>> too.
>
> I've seen the list does not include a newer nmap. Can we have a newer
> nmap there? the current 3.81 one is not working properly.

No, get it from the updates. If it's not in 2006-updates but only in
the 2006-branch, then probably be Vincent for an official update if you
want. IIRC, we already asked me such a thing, so I assume it's
available.

[Gwenole Beauchesne]

Le lundi, 24 avr 2006, à 19:03 Europe/Paris, Giuseppe Ghibò a écrit :

> > Also, the update cd contains the 4.0.1-5mdk gcc packages, but the
> > 2.6.12-19mdk kernel was compiled with the 4.0.3 version. Should the
> > latter packages be included instead?
>
> An application complaining about this latter stuff is vmware
> when recompiling vmnet modules.

This shouldn't be a problem since the modinfo reports gcc-4.0
regardless of gcc 4.0.1 or 4.0.3. Anyhow, the compiler will indeed get
updated to the 2006-branch.

[Gwenole Beauchesne]

Le lundi, 24 avr 2006, à 19:07 Europe/Paris, Giuseppe Ghibò a écrit :

> Why the update 2006.0-Update1-CD include packages which are
> alread in the main one, such as:

Because mkcd wants it. It's a new boot CD and it has to be
self-contained for the packages available in there, except for
proprietary modules.

> ? Furthermore shouldn't go there the libraries from community 2006,
> i.e. 2.3.6-3mdk?

I planned it but it was not a critical update to be on the CD.

[patrick-darcy]

On Monday 24 April 2006 04:25 pm, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:

> Le lundi, 24 avr 2006, à 19:07 Europe/Paris, Giuseppe Ghibò a écrit :
> > Why the update 2006.0-Update1-CD include packages which are
> > alread in the main one, such as:
>
> Because mkcd wants it. It's a new boot CD and it has to be
> self-contained for the packages available in there, except for
> proprietary modules.
>
> > ? Furthermore shouldn't go there the libraries from community 2006,
> > i.e. 2.3.6-3mdk?
>
> I planned it but it was not a critical update to be on the CD.

i believe u mentioned end of april, well its end of april.

is it ready ?

[Gwenole Beauchesne]

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006, patrick_darcy wrote:

> > I planned it but it was not a critical update to be on the CD.
>
> i believe u mentioned end of april, well its end of april.
>
> is it ready ?

Yes, I already switched to other projects. ;-)

However, it's still not available online yet. Sorry, I don't have an ETA.