some mvc framework for tomcat webapp

[KMalhi]

Does anybody mind if we plugin an mvc framework (spring mvc, struts , jsf
etc) into our tomcat webapp . The code right now definitely needs some
cleaning up and some structure if we need to add more functionality into
this webapp. Personally, I am more comfortable with using custom tags (which
are part of most MVC frameworks) instead of scriplets and expressions in the
jsp's.

Does anybody has any favorites? I was thinking of eating our own dog food
and using JSF (once I fix the injection support in JSF)

There are definitely a lot of things we could do in this web app and convert
it into a full blown admin console.

--
Karan Singh Malhi

[Jacek Laskowski]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Karan Malhi <karan.malhi@...> wrote:

> Does anybody has any favorites? I was thinking of eating our own dog food
> and using JSF (once I fix the injection support in JSF)
>
> There are definitely a lot of things we could do in this web app and convert
> it into a full blown admin console.

I'd personally prefer Wicket, but don't mind using JSF. I think it'd
be much easier with Wicket as JSF is too complicated (I'm saying it as
a kinda fan of JSF and a Wicket beginner).

Jacek

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Jacek Laskowski
Notatnik Projektanta Java EE - http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl

["C." Bergström]

Jacek Laskowski wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Karan Malhi <karan.malhi@...> wrote:
>
>  
>> Does anybody has any favorites? I was thinking of eating our own dog food
>> and using JSF (once I fix the injection support in JSF)
>>
>> There are definitely a lot of things we could do in this web app and convert
>> it into a full blown admin console.
>>    
>
> I'd personally prefer Wicket, but don't mind using JSF. I think it'd
> be much easier with Wicket as JSF is too complicated (I'm saying it as
> a kinda fan of JSF and a Wicket beginner).
>  

I'm very much +1 for Wicket, but not sure how much code I could
contribute.  Avoiding all the religious framework to framework feature
comparisons, Wicket really has a great community from the bottom up.

./C

[KMalhi]

>
> I'm very much +1 for Wicket,

I do not know wicket, but am willing to learn and follow what you guys do
with the webapp.Could you suggest a good online resource for learning
wicket?


> but not sure how much code I could contribute.

We are here to extend our full help to you to get you started. I was also
not sure how I could contribute, so I simply pinged DBlevins on irc and he
helped me out with the approach for fixing some things in the webapp.


> Avoiding all the religious framework to framework feature comparisons

 Thats good, we definitely do not want a flame war here. Whatever makes this
webapp easier to maintain and add features to. If more people know a certain
framework well, then we have more contributors towards the webapp, which is
all the more better :)

--
Karan Singh Malhi

["C." Bergström]

Karan Malhi wrote:
>> I'm very much +1 for Wicket,
>>    
>
> I do not know wicket, but am willing to learn and follow what you guys do
> with the webapp.Could you suggest a good online resource for learning
> wicket?
>  
1) I've worked with one of the authors and probably a bit biased, but
I'd take a look at Wicket in Action (wia). (Honestly haven't read it though)

2) http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/

3) ##wicket on irc

4) wicket mailing lists are *very* good

5) Full source code examples which should pop up in google
wicket-phonebook, elephas (blogging software) and lots more

In a lot of ways.. wicket is straight forward enough that just looking
at the examples can go a long way.

</end-wicket-evangelizing>

./C

[David Blevins]

On Jul 10, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Karan Malhi wrote:
> Does anybody has any favorites? I was thinking of eating our own dog  
> food
> and using JSF (once I fix the injection support in JSF)

Considering WebBeans is all about tight JSF and EJB integration, I'd  
be inclined to agree that JSF is the best option.  Seems it would  
ensure we have good and continuously working JSF support, which we  
don't now.

I'd definitely want to wait till next release though so we have a full  
release cycle to rip things up.

-David

[djencks]

I don't know anything about the context of this discussion..... if you  
are planning to run a jsf container in tomcat + openejb I'd use  
myfaces since the injection support is quite xbean-reflect compatible.

thanks
david jencks

On Jul 11, 2008, at 1:23 PM, David Blevins wrote:

>
> On Jul 10, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Karan Malhi wrote:
>> Does anybody has any favorites? I was thinking of eating our own  
>> dog food
>> and using JSF (once I fix the injection support in JSF)
>
> Considering WebBeans is all about tight JSF and EJB integration, I'd  
> be inclined to agree that JSF is the best option.  Seems it would  
> ensure we have good and continuously working JSF support, which we  
> don't now.
>
> I'd definitely want to wait till next release though so we have a  
> full release cycle to rip things up.
>
> -David
>

[Jacek Laskowski]

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David Jencks <david_jencks@...> wrote:
> I don't know anything about the context of this discussion..... if you are
> planning to run a jsf container in tomcat + openejb I'd use myfaces since
> the injection support is quite xbean-reflect compatible.

Sure, but the more web presence OpenEJB gets (in a form of web
integration examples or in the console) the harder is to develop web
pages and that's what I think Karan's after. Dave B brought a good
point about WebBeans which is all about JSF + EJB (something Seam has
tried to overcome itself).

Jacek

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Jacek Laskowski
Notatnik Projektanta Java EE - http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl