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[ scim-Bugs-2090471 ] Can't show a blank lookup table.

2008-09-02T22:42:43Z

Bugs item #2090471, was opened at 2008-09-03 01:42
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Category: FrontEnd: Core
Group: 1.4.x
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Seth Hetu (snhes)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: Can't show a blank lookup table.

Initial Comment:
Hello,
I've been developing my library for scim, and so far it works great. However, there is one small glitch: I can't seem to show an empty lookup table. If I have:

MyLookupTable lookup;
update_lookup_table(lookup);
show_lookup_table();

...Then the lookup table bar appears, with no options in it (as expected). If I then select something:
doSomethingThatChanges(lookup);
update_lookup_table(lookup);
show_lookup_table();

..the change appears, also as expected. But if I then do:
lookup.clear();
update_lookup_table(lookup);
show_lookup_table();

...then the old entry remains. I have some evidence that this is a glitch in SCIM, not in my code: Instead of lookup.clear(), I do the following:
update_lookup_table(blank_lookup);
show_lookup_table();

...where "blank_lookup" is just another new instance of "MyLookupTable". I am guessing that SCIM simply doesn't re-render if there are no lookup options.

I already have a workaround(add a default entry with just one space) but I thought I'd let you all know. Is this a bug in SCIM, or am I doing something wrong in my code? I'd appreciate your input.

Thanks,
-->Seth

PS: I'm running SCIM on Ubuntu hardy heron, installed from the package binary, and invoked normally. I have tested this on several systems and confirmed its behavior on all of them.

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iBus - the new input framework

2008-09-01T08:13:49Z

Hi all,
I am developing a new input framework - iBus (Intelligent Input Bus).
It is almost completed, and it already has several engines (Chinese
PinYin, Chinese Chewing, Japanese Anthy, Korean Hangul, M17n and
general table engines). It can also support gtk, qt4 and XIM
applications (qt3 are supported via XIM). It has entered the test
stage. So I wish you may download and try it. If you have any
questions or suggestions, please tell me.

homepage: http://code.google.com/p/ibus/
discuss group: http://groups.google.com/group/ibus-user
Fedora 9 users may download rpm packages from below link.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ibus-table-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9,ibus-pinyin-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9,ibus-m17n-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9,ibus-chewing-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9,ibus-hangul-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9,ibus-anthy-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9,ibus-0.1.1.20080901-1.fc9

Thanks,
Huang Peng

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[ scim-Feature Requests-2084450 ] should include freefire () input (Chinese)

2008-08-30T14:13:03Z

Feature Requests item #2084450, was opened at 2008-08-30 21:13
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Category: scim-tables
Group: None
Status: Open
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Kai-Cheung Leung (kcleung)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: should include freefire () input (Chinese)

Initial Comment:
I've found an input method called

http://www.freefire.com.hk/

that is similar to stroke5, but it provides five more stroke types, which greatly reduces ambiguity (thus increases input speed) without making users to remember too many stroke types.

Unfortunately the implementation by the original developer is proprietary. It would be nice to have a 3rd party implementation of the freefire table included in the scim system

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[ scim-Bugs-2054355 ] New scim GUI starts when X-app is launched by another user

2008-08-16T16:50:14Z

Bugs item #2054355, was opened at 2008-08-15 23:32
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Category: Core: libscim
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Yuri (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: New scim GUI starts when X-app is launched by another user

Initial Comment:
I have scim running on display as my user.
Root runs some other GUI application and new copy of scim GUI starts and tray has 2 scims.

Once scim runs any other user should reuse the first copy. Only one or zero copies of GUI should be maintained at any time on any particular display.

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I would add: this is true only for GTK apps.

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[ scim-Bugs-2054355 ] New scim GUI starts when X-app is launched by another user

2008-08-15T23:32:25Z

Bugs item #2054355, was opened at 2008-08-15 23:32
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Category: Core: libscim
Group: None
Status: Open
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Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Yuri (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: New scim GUI starts when X-app is launched by another user

Initial Comment:
I have scim running on display as my user.
Root runs some other GUI application and new copy of scim GUI starts and tray has 2 scims.

Once scim runs any other user should reuse the first copy. Only one or zero copies of GUI should be maintained at any time on any particular display.

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[ scim-Bugs-1742286 ] launching by ctrl-space bar stops with certain website

2008-08-15T19:20:56Z

Bugs item #1742286, was opened at 2007-06-23 17:35
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Category: None
Group: 1.4.x
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: billy_leung (vientito_billy)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: launching by ctrl-space bar stops with certain website

Initial Comment:
version 1.4.6 seems to display problem that i did not experience in previous versions. certain websites would stop input after each refresh. I have to minimize firefox and maximize it back in order to launch key input again by ctrl-space.

example website:

http://dic.naver.com/

under that website, it supposedly would show definition for entered hangul in each blank. after each display of definition, I could not initiate key input by ctrl-space. Only by minimizing and maximzing browser would i be able to restore normality. Everytime a new definition shows i would have to repeat these steps to enable key input.

It only happens with certain websites. some websites have no such issues. Previous version of scim showed no such issues at all.

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Comment By: Yuri (yurivict)
Date: 2008-08-15 19:20

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Which browser/OS you are using when you see this problem?
I use Firefox3 on FreeBSD-70-STABLE ith these packages installed:
scim-1.4.7_3
scim-table-imengine-0.5.7_3

And the site http://dic.naver.com works fine with scim.

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Comment By: Yuri (yurivict)
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Which browser/OS you are using when you see this problem?
I use Firefox3 on FreeBSD-70-STABLE ith these packages installed:
scim-1.4.7_3
scim-table-imengine-0.5.7_3

And the site http://dic.naver.com works fine with scim.

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[ scim-Bugs-1742286 ] launching by ctrl-space bar stops with certain website

2008-08-15T19:19:22Z

Bugs item #1742286, was opened at 2007-06-23 17:35
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Category: None
Group: 1.4.x
Status: Open
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Submitted By: billy_leung (vientito_billy)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: launching by ctrl-space bar stops with certain website

Initial Comment:
version 1.4.6 seems to display problem that i did not experience in previous versions. certain websites would stop input after each refresh. I have to minimize firefox and maximize it back in order to launch key input again by ctrl-space.

example website:

http://dic.naver.com/

under that website, it supposedly would show definition for entered hangul in each blank. after each display of definition, I could not initiate key input by ctrl-space. Only by minimizing and maximzing browser would i be able to restore normality. Everytime a new definition shows i would have to repeat these steps to enable key input.

It only happens with certain websites. some websites have no such issues. Previous version of scim showed no such issues at all.

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Comment By: Yuri (yurivict)
Date: 2008-08-15 19:19

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Which browser/OS you are using when you see this problem?
I use Firefox3 on FreeBSD-70-STABLE ith these packages installed:
scim-1.4.7_3
scim-table-imengine-0.5.7_3

And the site http://dic.naver.com works fine with scim.

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[ scim-Bugs-1676869 ] scimcrashing kopete

2008-08-15T19:09:37Z

Bugs item #1676869, was opened at 2007-03-08 15:52
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Category: FrontEnd: QT IMModule
Group: 1.4.x
Status: Open
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Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nicolas Modrzyk (hellonico)
Assigned to: LiuCougar (liuspider)
Summary: scimcrashing kopete

Initial Comment:
Here are the steps to reproduce the crash:
- open kopete
- click edit properties of someone in the contact list
- enter a japanese name using scim
- click ok
- click edit properties of some else in the contact list

This is leads invariably to crashing kopete with the following stack trace.

[KCrash handler]
#6 0xb6c1b6a0 in QGList::read () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#7 0xb3ba153e in scim::QScimInputContext::slot_hide_preedit_string ()
from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqscim.so
#8 0xb3ba9dc2 in scim::FunctionSlot1<void, scim::IMEngineInstanceBase*>::call
() from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqscim.so
#9 0xb3afa54c in scim::IMEngineInstanceBase::hide_preedit_string ()
from /usr/lib/libscim-1.0.so.8
#10 0xb3a91ad3 in scim::SocketInstance::do_transaction ()
from /usr/lib/scim-1.0/1.4.0/IMEngine/socket.so
#11 0xb3a93f76 in scim::SocketInstance::commit_transaction ()
from /usr/lib/scim-1.0/1.4.0/IMEngine/socket.so
#12 0xb3a9476a in scim::SocketInstance::reset ()
from /usr/lib/scim-1.0/1.4.0/IMEngine/socket.so
#13 0xb3ba0350 in scim::QScimInputContext::reset ()
from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqscim.so
#14 0xb5e062e9 in QMultiInputContext::reset ()
from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqimsw-multi.so
#15 0xb6881c19 in QWidget::resetInputContext () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#16 0xb6a0206d in QLineEdit::setText () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0xb734ffd8 in KLineEdit::setText () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#18 0xb7f34ee2 in AddressBookLinkWidgetBase::languageChange ()
from /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1
#19 0xb7f35493 in AddressBookLinkWidgetBase::AddressBookLinkWidgetBase ()
from /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1
#20 0xb7f39855 in Kopete::UI::AddressBookLinkWidget::AddressBookLinkWidget ()
from /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1
#21 0x080a69ae in ?? ()
#22 0x08677ec8 in ?? ()
#23 0x082fc4d0 in ?? ()
#24 0x080bda08 in ?? ()
#25 0x00000000 in ?? ()

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Comment By: Yuri (yurivict)
Date: 2008-08-15 19:09

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I can't reproduce this bug on FreeBSD-70-STABLE.
I use kopete-0.12.7 with kde-3.5.8.
scim-1.4.7_
scim-table-imengine-0.5.7_3zh-scim-chewing-0.3.1_4 SCIM chewing Chinese
input methods

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Problem on setup Traditional Chinese input

2008-08-15T07:45:37Z

Hi folks,

Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop amd64

I followed SCIM;
[url]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM[/url]

to setup Chinese Input without success.

Ctrl+Space can switch English/European ON/OFF

Ctrl+Shift can switch RAW CODE Unicode ON/OFF

No Chinese input method found.

Only Scim and scim-gtk2-immodule installed. No ttf fonts and xfont found.

Please help. TIA

B.R.
satimis

[ scim-Bugs-2052217 ] scim starts with every GTK app

2008-08-14T16:29:51Z

Bugs item #2052217, was opened at 2008-08-14 16:29
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Category: FrontEnd: Core
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Status: Open
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Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Yuri (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: scim starts with every GTK app

Initial Comment:
I exited from scim. When I launch Firefox scim starts automatically.

This feature should be optional because not all users want this.

Once I quit scim it shouldn't automatically start with the start of any IM-enabled app.

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[ scim-Bugs-2052171 ] Clicking doesn't activate menu after scim is started

2008-08-14T15:46:51Z

Bugs item #2052171, was opened at 2008-08-14 15:46
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Category: FrontEnd: Core
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Status: Open
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Submitted By: Yuri (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: Clicking doesn't activate menu after scim is started

Initial Comment:
When I just start scim and click on the tray icon menu doesn't show up.

But when I am in application and hit Ctrl-Space menu works and after this clicking on icon also works.

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[ scim-Bugs-2052076 ] scim-tables-0.5.7: configure ignores --prefix

2008-08-14T14:16:26Z

Bugs item #2052076, was opened at 2008-08-14 14:16
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Category: IMEngine: Generic Table
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Yuri (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: scim-tables-0.5.7: configure ignores --prefix

Initial Comment:
I tried to build the package into the different base (--prefix=/usr/local/scim-mine) on FreeBSD box but it still installed everything into /usr/local/ base.

scim package itself accepts --prefix fine.

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[ scim-Bugs-2051735 ] Scim doesn't work with Skype

2008-08-14T09:20:36Z

Bugs item #2051735, was opened at 2008-08-14 08:19
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Category: Core: libscim
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Status: Open
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>Priority: 9
Private: No
Submitted By: Yuri Victorovich (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: Scim doesn't work with Skype

Initial Comment:
I have a Gentoo box and scim doesn't work in Skype.
When in Skype all Chinese methods disappear from the menu.

I found many similar references on the internet with various instructions (like using QT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge or QT_IM_SWITCHER=imsw-multi). But those instructions didn't work for me.

Please fix this since Skype is a major piece of software where people want to input in various languages.

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Making it highest priority since it's a major defect preventing normal use
for average user.

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[ scim-Bugs-2051735 ] Scim doesn't work with Skype

2008-08-14T09:19:12Z

Bugs item #2051735, was opened at 2008-08-14 08:19
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Category: Core: libscim
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Status: Open
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Priority: 5
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Submitted By: Yuri Victorovich (yurivict)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: Scim doesn't work with Skype

Initial Comment:
I have a Gentoo box and scim doesn't work in Skype.
When in Skype all Chinese methods disappear from the menu.

I found many similar references on the internet with various instructions (like using QT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge or QT_IM_SWITCHER=imsw-multi). But those instructions didn't work for me.

Please fix this since Skype is a major piece of software where people want to input in various languages.

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[ scim-Bugs-2050593 ] No methods from scim-tables-0.5.7 show up in the menu

2008-08-13T21:10:35Z

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Submitted By: Yuri Victorovich (yurivict)
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Summary: No methods from scim-tables-0.5.7 show up in the menu

Initial Comment:
table.so is in the right place, strace tells that it was statted as regular file. But scim doesn't seem to notice it and module list comes up without any methods from table module.

*Any* error conditions that occur while loading any IM should be reported to user. Either in a form of message that will disappear after few seconds or in some popup dialog box.

Right now I am clueless what's wrong.

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I also see the similar effect on my FreeBSD box but with smart-pinyin
module: all other methods show (including table ones) but smart-pinyin
doesn't show up.

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I also see the similar effect on my FreeBSD box but with smart-pinyin
module: all other methods show (including table ones) but smart-pinyin
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[ scim-Bugs-2050593 ] No methods from scim-tables-0.5.7 show up in the menu

2008-08-13T19:18:06Z

Bugs item #2050593, was opened at 2008-08-13 17:44
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Submitted By: Yuri Victorovich (yurivict)
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Summary: No methods from scim-tables-0.5.7 show up in the menu

Initial Comment:
table.so is in the right place, strace tells that it was statted as regular file. But scim doesn't seem to notice it and module list comes up without any methods from table module.

*Any* error conditions that occur while loading any IM should be reported to user. Either in a form of message that will disappear after few seconds or in some popup dialog box.

Right now I am clueless what's wrong.

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I also see the similar effect on my FreeBSD box but with smart-pinyin
module: all other methods show (including table ones) but smart-pinyin
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[ scim-Bugs-2050593 ] No methods from scim-tables-0.5.7 show up in the menu

2008-08-13T18:44:18Z

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Submitted By: Yuri Victorovich (yurivict)
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Summary: No methods from scim-tables-0.5.7 show up in the menu

Initial Comment:
table.so is in the right place, strace tells that it was statted as regular file. But scim doesn't seem to notice it and module list comes up without any methods from table module.

*Any* error conditions that occur while loading any IM should be reported to user. Either in a form of message that will disappear after few seconds or in some popup dialog box.

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How to make "Chinese (traditional)" menu item to show up?

2008-08-13T16:07:43Z

I have Gentoo box and skim, skim-tables, skim-pinyin installed there.
But only "Smart Pinyin" shows up under "Chinese (simplified)".
No "Chinese (traditional)" menu item.

Which packages I should normally install on Linux to get "Chinese (traditional)" menu working?

[scim - Help] scim version

2008-08-10T22:44:10Z

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What is the next release version and when?
What features will add to it?
Where can I find TODO list?
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Using Smart Pinyin with Traditional characters?

2008-07-22T00:58:19Z

Hello,

I installed SCIM as well as Smart Pinyin and Chewing packages on my Ubuntu 8.04.

I tested Chewing but it doesn't really suit me (I'm really not used to
bopomofo, and it requires to input the tone for every character).

So I'm now using Smart Pinyin, which works really well, and is really
smart (eg. when typing "woshifaguoren" it finds all the matching
characters to make the correct sentence "I am French"). But it's using
simplified characters.

Is there an option to use Smart Pinyin with traditional characters?

I found out an option in the toolbar, when clicking on the "中" icon
several times, I end up on something that uses traditional characters,
but it's not smart anymore and when I type "woshifaguoren", I end up
with a meaningless sentence in Chinese (sorry I can't show you now,
I'm not on my own computer)...

Thanks in advance!

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[ scim-Bugs-2022647 ] scim-tables 0.5.8 missing two icon

2008-07-19T21:18:32Z

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Category: IMEngine: Generic Table
Group: None
Status: Open
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Priority: 5
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Submitted By: LI Daobing (lidaobing)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: scim-tables 0.5.8 missing two icon

Initial Comment:
Hello,

in the release tarball of scim-tables 0.5.8,

tables/ru/Translit.txt.in refer Translit.png,
tables/uk/Ukrainian-Translit.txt.in refer Ukrainian-Translit.png,

but the two files does not exist in icons/

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Re: Smart Pinyin not in input methods list

2008-07-13T05:58:05Z

Now I see that my SourceForge bug report is automatically posted in this mailing list.
[ scim-Bugs-2011658 ] Smart Pinyin not in the input methods list by SourceForge.net Jul 06 by SourceForge.net

My bugreport is the same as the message I just posted. Therefor there is a double post now. Sorry for that.

Smart Pinyin not in input methods list

2008-07-13T05:50:44Z

Hello,

I want to write Pinyin (Mandarin Chinese).
I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 - the Feisty Fawn. So I installed the package scim-pinyin.
Now the option "Smart Pinyin" is available in the SCIM Setup for IMEngine modules.
I checked the "use tone" option. So I can write like ni3 hao3 to get ni hao with the 3th tone signs. (Like explained in http://www.scim-im.org/wiki/documentation/imengine_usage/smart_pinyin/configuration)

So far, so good.

But when I enable SCIM, then Smart Pinyin is not in the input methods list .

I've got a lot of options in the input methods list, like:
Chinese (simplified) > Erbi
Chinese (simplified) > Erbi-QS
Chinese (simplified) > ...
Chinese (traditional) > Wu
Chinese (traditional) > Array30
Chinese (traditional) > ...

But I can't find Pinyin.

Here is a picture of somebody elses SCIM toolbar who has SMART Pinyin in the imput method list. So you know what I mean with "input method list":
http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~apricots/mandrake/toolbar1.png

How can I enable Smart Pinyin with tones, so I can write like ni3 hao3?

Thanks,

Snam

Re: Sendin scim a signal to switch input method

2008-07-09T00:34:28Z

raneto wrote:

Hello,

By the way, I've modefied the scim VIQR table for vietnamese to Telex and VNI input methods. They are very reliable.

Do you want them?

yours,

raneto

could you put them -with_src please- somewhere ?

thanks
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[ scim-Bugs-2011658 ] Smart Pinyin not in the input methods list

2008-07-06T03:13:14Z

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Category: IMEngine: Smart Pinyin
Group: 1.4.x
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Ward Bergmans (snamgreb)
Assigned to: James Su (suzhe)
Summary: Smart Pinyin not in the input methods list

Initial Comment:
When I go to the SCIM setup, then Smart Pinyin is displayed under the IMEngines. So far so good.

But Smart Pinyin is not displayed in the input methods list.

A lot of options are displayed in the list, like:
Chinese (simplified) > Erbi
Chinese (simplified) > Erbi-QS
Chinese (simplified) > ...
Chinese (traditional) > Wu
Chinese (traditional) > Array30
Chinese (traditional) > ...

Here is a picture of somebody elses SCIM toolbar who has SMART Pinyin in the imput method list. So you know what I mean with "input method list":
http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~apricots/mandrake/toolbar1.png

Some extra information:
I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 - the Feisty Fawn.
I've installed the package scim-pinyin.
The option "Smart Pinyin" is available in the SCIM Setup for IMEngine modules.
I checked the "use tone" option. So I can write like ni3 hao3 to get ni hao with the 3th tone signs. (Like explained in http://www.scim-im.org/wiki/documentation/imengine_usage/smart_pinyin/configuration)

If you need more information to fix the bug that "Smart Pinyin is not displayed in the input method list", please let me know.

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[ scim-Bugs-1668290 ] dead-key characters don't work

2008-07-03T18:10:23Z

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Category: None
Group: 1.4.x
Status: Open
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Submitted By: ejstans (ejstans)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: dead-key characters don't work

Initial Comment:
After starting scim/skim, I can no longer type "dead-key" characters such as ~^"`' in xterm. Strangely they work in mlterm but appear immediately when the button is pressed so I can't place them over other characters such as for example.
I am using:
OpenSuSE 10.2 with KDE Release 3.5.5 "release 45.2", Xorg 7.2.0 RC 2, scim 1.4.5, skim 1.4.5 (compiled with libscim 1.4.5).

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I will go ahead and sympatize with you guys ... I am actually one of yours
and still totally with you deeply in my heart.

now let's face it. How many french dude (which need dead keys) use Linux
(and KDE) and also need an input method system such as SCIM to write in our
favorite asian language of our choice.

I am afraid we are the only ones. we are alone. and the developers won't
ever care. french SCIM users are the slightest percentage of the
population. I have been experiencing this bug for more than 2 years. and
the last post on this bug is a year old.

I guess everybody did the same as I did and moved on to some other OS
where it has some kind of population.
sad to see people givin' up ? well hey, 1997-2007, that's just enough
patience to see a desktop get ready.

I'll keep watchin' ...

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Comment By: Michal Suchanek (hramrach)
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With 1.4.4 dead keys work when dynamic events are turned off but it breaks
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Comment By: Michal Suchanek (hramrach)
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On Debian testing with scim 1.4.7 dead keys do not work with dynamic
events either enabled or disabled (/FrontEnd/X11/Dynamic). I can no longer
find the setting in the gtk config panel.

Turning off dynamic X events breaks wine, it locks up when a menu or
button is pressed.

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Comment By: ejstans (ejstans)
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Turning off Dynamic X Event makes dead-key characters work for me...
What is "Dynamic X events" and why does it eat dead-key chars?

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Comment By: Michal Suchanek (hramrach)
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For me dead keys do not work with scim 1.4.4 on Debian, and they sometimes
do with scim 1.4.5 on Gentoo. It is possible to write them with
English/European input method.
However, using this input method is far from convenient. One has to
- enable scim
- select the method with mouse (or configure and memorize a key
shortcut)

If the dead keys worked when scim is not enabled (ie the panel is hidden
in the default setup) scim would be much easier to use.

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After toggling the "dynamic X event" option on, it appears that dead keys
will only work if I choose "Franais/Clavier > Franais/Europen"
(French/Keyboard > French/European) as input method. They still won't work
when setting input method to "Clavier" (Keyboard).

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try toggling one option in scim-setup: dynamic X event

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The same goes for me. I add to the list of non-working dead-keys the
character, useful in french.
I'm using:
Debian Etch/Sid, KDE 3.5.5, Xorg 7.1.0, scim 1.4.4, skim 1.4.4 .

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John WRIGHT/INT/CHEM/Corp is out of the office.

2008-06-25T11:00:19Z

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IM control bar positioning

2008-06-25T10:34:36Z

One last question for you all, now that things are working.... when I
activate scim for the first time in a session, my little rectangular IM
"control bar" (not sure what the proper name is.... for my Japanese
setup it has the IM engine "Anthy", a menu for changing
hiragana/katakana input, a menu for changing single/multi segment
conversion, a menu for the dictionary app Kasumi, etc).....

This little control bar appears on the left edge of the screen, in the
center (vertically). I prefer to keep it somewhere else (in the lower
right, just above my taskbar clock), and if I move it, it'll remember
for that session, but the next time, it always goes back to the left
edge center.

Is there any way I can get it to remember the position I like between
sessions? BTW, I'm running KDE.

Thanks,
Dave

p.s. And I don't want to just dock it into the tray - I like having the
visual reminder that Japanese input is turned on.

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The symbol in chewing is rotated 90 degree

2008-06-23T19:03:32Z

symbol_rotated.png

Hello all,
I've noticed that the symbol of chewing in 新
"ㄒ一ㄣ" is become "ㄒ| ㄣ" , as shown above

The middle symbol is rotated 90 degree.
Is there any material I should read to improve this?

Thanks a lot!

Re: Sendin scim a signal to switch input method

2008-06-21T23:33:12Z

Hello Raneto,

I'm looking for the same issue quite some time; the approach with XSendKey don't really work for me ... do you have already a solution and can give a hint ?

Thanks
Christian

Re: Just.... getting it to work

2008-06-16T22:13:58Z

I wrote:
> I see there's something called scim-bridge (although it is "masked",
> which means it is not considered stable). Is this what I need? If so,
> why? It isn't mentioned on any of the "how to set up Japanese input"
> help pages I've read, and yet lots of people are apparently successfully
> inputting Japanese in GTK apps (including me on SUSE 10.1).

Never mind... got it to work. The solution was something very Gentoo
specific: USE="gtk" emerge scim scim-anthy. D'oh. Thanks for being
a sounding-board :-)

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Re: Just.... getting it to work

2008-06-15T21:27:53Z

I wrote:
> > What about other gtk applications? Do you have the scim gtk
> > immodule installed? You might want to try scim-qtimm too if you're
> > still using qt3.
>
> Gentoo does not offer a package which answers to the description "scim
> gtk immodule". Is there really an immodule corresponding to scim-
> qtimm that I ought to get to make the GTK apps work?

I see there's something called scim-bridge (although it is "masked",
which means it is not considered stable). Is this what I need? If so,
why? It isn't mentioned on any of the "how to set up Japanese input"
help pages I've read, and yet lots of people are apparently successfully
inputting Japanese in GTK apps (including me on SUSE 10.1).

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Re: Just.... getting it to work

2008-06-15T21:05:26Z

> I don't really have much experience with skim, but let me try to
> answer your questions below.

Jens,

Thanks for the response.

> > My main problem is with keyboard switching. In the skim configure
> > dialog I have tried setting [......] and neither one seems to have
> > any effect.
>
> They work fine for me under scim at least.

It turned out that this problem was sort of esoteric, and not the kind
of thing easily documented. For ages I've been using Shift-Alt-space as
the toggle under SUSE. I believe it is represented in the scim setup (I
don't think I'm running skim there) as "Shift-Meta-space".

I tried to set up the same way on this new computer, different kind of
keyboard, just expecting I could it exactly the same way. Here also I
have a key (well, 2) called "Alt", but it behaves differently. It seems
to be treated (in this instance) as a "regular" key rather than a
modifier key. At least sometimes. Anyway, I was confusing myself,
because I was pressing shift + alt + space and getting "Shift-Meta_L",
which I later realized was the *left* alt key and no space key involved
at all, although I thought it *was* involved.

In fact, you can get Shift-Meta-space if you check-on the checkboxes for
Shift and Meta during the key capture and just hit space. But that
certainly won't do anything on this keyboard. I'm sure I also tried the
simpler Ctrl-space, but for some reason wasn't getting any satisfaction
from that either. At this point, it's impossible for me to remember the
sequence of things I tried, and exactly what happened. I hate when I
can't remember like that -- sorry.

In any case, it comes down to this confusion about "Meta". If this is
something that can be de-ambiguified within scim/skim, that might be
good, since apparently different keyboards behave differently (even in
the same country). I'm now using Shift-Meta_R as my toggle, and
everything is fine on that front.

> > There's a lot more I could say. I can get Japanese input in Konsole
> > (by activating with mouse, as mentioned), but not in Firefox.
>
> What about other gtk applications? Do you have the scim gtk immodule
> installed? You might want to try scim-qtimm too if you're still
> using qt3.

So this is my remaining problem (and I need to get it fixed fairly
soon). Japanese input is working fine in all KDE apps, but not in any
GTK-based apps, including Firefox/Thunderbird. I've got scim-qtimm
installed, but I think this is relevant only to KDE/Qt. Gentoo does not
offer a package which answers to the description "scim gtk immodule". Is
there really an immodule corresponding to scim-qtimm that I ought to get
to make the GTK apps work?

> IMHO it is really up to each distribution to get this right and it is
> not that hard really once you understand how input methods are setup.
> So really your problem sounds like a Gentoo bug/issue to me.

Gentoo really does (almost) no cofiguration for you - which is part of
its appeal :-) So I don't think Gentoo would be at fault...

> Having said that, your questions really are FAQ: particularly many
> people come to the #scim irc channel asking for help on getting scim
> working so a good FAQ that covered these issues clearly would be very
> good I agree. If you can help contribute/improve such text that would
> be a great contribution and I am sure many of our users would
> appreciate it too.

I'd like to do that, but will need a lot of support from knowledgable
people, esp. because I don't have access to various platforms to see how
things work. But perhaps I could put together a skeletal structure and
ask others to help fill it in, maybe on a wiki. Two things that could
definitely go on such a site would be 1) a clear description of exactly
what scim, skim, uim, IMEngines, etc, etc are and how they fit into an
"ecology" (how they interoperate and depend on each other), and 2) a
clear description of what each of the relevant environment variables
"means" and what it controls. Currently these descriptions are written
sloppily, by and for people who already know the answers :-)

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [scim-user] TC 繁 phrase input & TC 繁 as default in en_US.UTF-8 locale?]

2008-06-14T21:45:32Z

Thanks for your suggestion - that's much, much closer to what I was
looking for! I thought I'd explored Chewing properly, but obviously I'd
managed to miss what, for me, was the major point of interest... :-[

I'm now much happier with the way I can use SCIM. I have only one thing
left on my 'wish-list' - the ability to type this way without entering
the tone - occasionally I forget, and with a phrase dictionary it
oughtn't to matter too much.

Anyway, my Windows VM will see much less action now!

Thanks again, 謝謝,

Simon

Ding-Yi Chen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think you might want to try scim-chewing instead.
> It also provides hanyu pinyin mode.
>
> Regards,
> Ding-Yi Chen
>
>
> Jens Petersen 提到:
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> 主旨:
>> Re: [Scim-user] [scim-user] TC 繁 phrase input & TC 繁 as default in
>> en_US.UTF-8 locale?
>> 寄件者:
>> simon_w <simonjwiles@...>
>> 日期:
>> Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
>> 收件者 (To):
>> scim-user@...
>>
>> 收件者 (To):
>> scim-user@...
>>
>>
>> Hi James / everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2007/2/28, Zhe Su <james.su@...>:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I had a plan to develop a new version of smart pinyin input method
>>>> which
>>>> has both TC and SC dictionary, and I already finished part of the source
>>>> code. But recently I'm too busy to have time on this project. Hope I can
>>>> restart developing it in near future.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> I wonder if any progress has been made on this? As an intermediate student
>> of Chinese, I really miss this functionality from the Windows Traditional
>> Chinese IME. So much so, in fact, that I usually use Windows in a VM if I
>> want to type anything longer than a few sentences in Chinese.
>>
>> I appreciate that those of us who want to type traditional Chinese in hanyu
>> pinyin are very much in the minority, but the addition of a TC phrase
>> dictionary would make a *huge* difference. I frequently find myself typing
>> something that I know how to say, but don't know which characters to use
>> for. Sometimes I will even type the phrase (in Windows) just to learn what
>> the characters should be!
>>
>> Is any further information available?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Simon
>>
>

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smart pinyin not in list

2008-06-14T09:19:30Z

Hello,

I want to write Pinyin (Mandarin Chinese).
I'm using Ubuntu 7.04 - the Feisty Fawn. So I installed the package scim-pinyin.
Now the option "Smart Pinyin" is available in the SCIM Setup for IMEngine modules.
I checked the "use tone" option. So I can write like ni3 hao3 to get ni hao with the 3th tone signs. (Like explained in http://www.scim-im.org/wiki/documentation/imengine_usage/smart_pinyin/configuration)

So far, so good.

But when I enable SCIM, then Smart Pinyin is not in the list .

I've got a lot of options in the list, like:
Chinese (simplified) > Erbi
Chinese (simplified) > Erbi-QS
Chinese (simplified) > ...
Chinese (traditional) > Wu
Chinese (traditional) > Array30
Chinese (traditional) > ...

But I can't find Pinyin.

How can I enable Smart Pinyin with tones, so I can write like ni3 hao3?

Thanks,

Snam