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release updateHello.
I sent an email before about the new version of bond, I thought I'd say it again with a brief overview of the changes since 2.4.3. The major enhancements : This release is a big improvement over the previous version of bond, and has been long delayed for release. Newer widgets, and improvements to existing widgets. Calender widget, color widget, file chooser, changing of colors & fonts, better date/time support. Timer triggers, have timed events that can open new windows or run sql queries. Ability to run sql patches within your application. User administration and locking down parts of the application down to certain users, customized error messages - raise errors in SQL which follow back to the user interface. Support for keystroke triggers, so you can write applications that interface with barcodes, magstrip readers etc. Revised of build system. And many many bug fixes, and many other new features. I havn't built the windows system binaries yet. Does anyone use these binaries? I'm just wondering? Or our installer maker? I'm just wondering what stuff should be kept in the release, and what should be trimmed back to keep the size of the downloads down. Also, if you havn't already registered, you can register at http://bugzilla.treshna.com This is where much of where the development talk, and bugs are logged. So if there is something pesky about bond you have noticed and you want it fix, let us know. http://www.treshna.com/bond/ http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz -- Andrew Hill treshna Enterprises Ltd Tel: 03 366 3649 Cel: 021 660 819 Web: www.treshna.com IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer tech support _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateWhats really the advantage of using scons instead of make!? Is it just preference or are there actually capabilities within scons being used? The build instructions are certainly very different than most project distributions i have used. Curious...
-Jeff Watson -RedGibson@... On 10/30/07, Dru <dru@...> wrote: Hello. _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateOn Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:54:28AM -0400, Jeff Watson wrote:
> Whats really the advantage of using scons instead of make!? Is it just > preference or are there actually capabilities within scons being used? The > build instructions are certainly very different than most project > distributions i have used. Curious... The instructions are the same as for almost every scons compile: scons && scons install. There's enough GNU Make pro & con articles on the web so you could look them up. All projects I saw that used scons were easy to install and worked literally with scons && scons install. Those compile problems that past few guys had were related to their build setup and their (in)experience with compiling software, not with Bond or scons. Cya, -doc > -Jeff Watson > -RedGibson@... > > On 10/30/07, Dru <dru@...> wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > I sent an email before about the new version of bond, I thought I'd say > > it again with a > > brief overview of the changes since 2.4.3. > > > > The major enhancements : > > > > This release is a big improvement over the previous version of bond, and > > has been long delayed for release. > > > > Newer widgets, and improvements to existing widgets. Calender widget, > > color widget, file chooser, changing of colors & fonts, better date/time > > support. Timer triggers, have timed events that can open new windows or > > run sql queries. Ability to run sql patches within your application. > > User administration and locking down parts of the application down to > > certain users, customized error messages - raise errors in SQL which > > follow back to the user interface. Support for keystroke triggers, so > > you can write applications that interface with barcodes, magstrip > > readers etc. Revised of build system. And many many bug fixes, and > > many other new features. > > > > I havn't built the windows system binaries yet. Does anyone use these > > binaries? I'm just wondering? Or our installer maker? I'm just wondering > > what stuff should be kept in the release, and what should be trimmed > > back to keep the size of the downloads down. > > > > Also, if you havn't already registered, you can register at > > http://bugzilla.treshna.com > > This is where much of where the development talk, and bugs are logged. > > So if there > > is something pesky about bond you have noticed and you want it fix, let > > us know. > > > > > > http://www.treshna.com/bond/ > > http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz > > > > -- > > Andrew Hill > > treshna Enterprises Ltd > > Tel: 03 366 3649 > > Cel: 021 660 819 > > Web: www.treshna.com > > IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer tech support > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bond-users mailing list > > Bond-users@... > > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Bond-users mailing list > Bond-users@... > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateWith all respect to bond programmers and maintainers, I think with "configure - make - make install" I would have solved my problems a while ago. I am not good in scons but I was expecting it to be easier, but the result is that I have not managed to install bond and it does not say what's wrong. I don't think when bond gives you this type of message it is question of being experienced in compiling or not:
"src/bondapi.c:81: error: too few arguments to function `bonddb_loadall'
scons: *** [src/bondapi.o] Error 1 scons: building terminated because of errors." Is this an error caused by inexperienced person compiling?
Ibrahim
On 10/31/07, Davor Ocelic <docelic@...> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:54:28AM -0400, Jeff Watson wrote: _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateOn Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:27:58PM +0100, Ibrahim Shaame wrote:
> With all respect to bond programmers and maintainers, I think with > "configure - make - make install" I would have solved my problems a while > ago. (Btw, I am in no any relation with Bond or Treshna). Your problems would not have been solved with C + M + M I because your errors were of different nature and not related to Make vs. Scons problem. > I am not good in scons but I was expecting it to be easier, but the > result is that I have not managed to install bond and it does not say what's > wrong. I don't think when bond gives you this type of message it is question > of being experienced in compiling or not: > "src/bondapi.c:81: error: too few arguments to function `bonddb_loadall' > scons: *** [src/bondapi.o] Error 1 > scons: building terminated because of errors." > > Is this an error caused by inexperienced person compiling? People who try to compile things must understand that compiling is just one level above actual coding. While the error you point out indeed is related to Bond code (and not to missing libs, invalid paths etc.), it is still - in my opinion - considered part of usual compile troubleshooting. In any case, I didn't have any intention to bring this to a personal level... I remember seeing a few emails that I have mentally put into the "not bond's fault" or "could have been solved by person themselves" category and I said what I said based on that (names and specific emails are irrelevant). Also, you are only competing with yourself here, so asking for technical help and being able to take well-intended criticism will move you forward, while complaining or taking things personally will not. -doc > On 10/31/07, Davor Ocelic <docelic@...> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:54:28AM -0400, Jeff Watson wrote: > > > Whats really the advantage of using scons instead of make!? Is it just > > > preference or are there actually capabilities within scons being used? > > The > > > build instructions are certainly very different than most project > > > distributions i have used. Curious... > > > > The instructions are the same as for almost every scons > > compile: scons && scons install. > > > > There's enough GNU Make pro & con articles on the web so you could > > look them up. > > > > All projects I saw that used scons were easy to install and > > worked literally with scons && scons install. > > > > Those compile problems that past few guys had were related to their > > build setup and their (in)experience with compiling software, not > > with Bond or scons. > > > > Cya, > > -doc > > > > > > > -Jeff Watson > > > -RedGibson@... > > > > > > On 10/30/07, Dru <dru@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > I sent an email before about the new version of bond, I thought I'd > > say > > > > it again with a > > > > brief overview of the changes since 2.4.3. > > > > > > > > The major enhancements : > > > > > > > > This release is a big improvement over the previous version of bond, > > and > > > > has been long delayed for release. > > > > > > > > Newer widgets, and improvements to existing widgets. Calender widget, > > > > color widget, file chooser, changing of colors & fonts, better > > date/time > > > > support. Timer triggers, have timed events that can open new windows > > or > > > > run sql queries. Ability to run sql patches within your application. > > > > User administration and locking down parts of the application down to > > > > certain users, customized error messages - raise errors in SQL which > > > > follow back to the user interface. Support for keystroke triggers, so > > > > > > you can write applications that interface with barcodes, magstrip > > > > readers etc. Revised of build system. And many many bug fixes, and > > > > many other new features. > > > > > > > > I havn't built the windows system binaries yet. Does anyone use these > > > > binaries? I'm just wondering? Or our installer maker? I'm just > > wondering > > > > what stuff should be kept in the release, and what should be trimmed > > > > back to keep the size of the downloads down. > > > > > > > > Also, if you havn't already registered, you can register at > > > > http://bugzilla.treshna.com > > > > This is where much of where the development talk, and bugs are logged. > > > > > > So if there > > > > is something pesky about bond you have noticed and you want it fix, > > let > > > > us know. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.treshna.com/bond/ > > > > http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Andrew Hill > > > > treshna Enterprises Ltd > > > > Tel: 03 366 3649 > > > > Cel: 021 660 819 > > > > Web: www.treshna.com > > > > IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer tech > > support > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Bond-users mailing list > > > > Bond-users@... > > > > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bond-users mailing list > > > Bond-users@... > > > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bond-users mailing list > > Bond-users@... > > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Bond-users mailing list > Bond-users@... > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateSorry, I did not take it personal. I should not have used the first person in the text.
Ibrahim
On 10/31/07, Davor Ocelic <docelic@...> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:27:58PM +0100, Ibrahim Shaame wrote: _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateI found maintaining the gnu build system a bit of a nightmare. They kept
bringing out new versions that were not backwards compatible, and every time i needed the build process to do something new or a little different it required a fare amount of hacking which could of been done with a few lines of python code. As well as support for windows isn't great with gnu build tools. Though the one downside of scons is it doesnt make that good a use of libtool. If someone out there is familure with the gnu build system and make, and can make the build files for it, I would be happy to accept it into the main tree. Jeff Watson wrote: > Whats really the advantage of using scons instead of make!? Is it just > preference or are there actually capabilities within scons being used? > The build instructions are certainly very different than most project > distributions i have used. Curious... > > -Jeff Watson > -RedGibson@... <mailto:RedGibson@...> > > On 10/30/07, *Dru* < dru@... <mailto:dru@...>> wrote: > > Hello. > > I sent an email before about the new version of bond, I thought > I'd say > it again with a > brief overview of the changes since 2.4.3. > > The major enhancements : > > This release is a big improvement over the previous version of > bond, and > has been long delayed for release. > > Newer widgets, and improvements to existing widgets. Calender widget, > color widget, file chooser, changing of colors & fonts, better > date/time > support. Timer triggers, have timed events that can open new > windows or > run sql queries. Ability to run sql patches within your application. > User administration and locking down parts of the application down to > certain users, customized error messages - raise errors in SQL which > follow back to the user interface. Support for keystroke triggers, so > you can write applications that interface with barcodes, magstrip > readers etc. Revised of build system. And many many bug fixes, and > many other new features. > > I havn't built the windows system binaries yet. Does anyone use these > binaries? I'm just wondering? Or our installer maker? I'm just > wondering > what stuff should be kept in the release, and what should be trimmed > back to keep the size of the downloads down. > > Also, if you havn't already registered, you can register at > http://bugzilla.treshna.com > This is where much of where the development talk, and bugs are > logged. > So if there > is something pesky about bond you have noticed and you want it > fix, let > us know. > > > http://www.treshna.com/bond/ > http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz > > -- > Andrew Hill > treshna Enterprises Ltd > Tel: 03 366 3649 > Cel: 021 660 819 > Web: www.treshna.com <http://www.treshna.com> > IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer tech > support > > > _______________________________________________ > Bond-users mailing list > Bond-users@... <mailto:Bond-users@...> > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > <http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bond-users mailing list > Bond-users@... > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > -- Andrew Hill treshna Enterprises Ltd Tel: 03 366 3649 Cel: 021 660 819 Web: www.treshna.com IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer tech support _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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Re: release updateThis was a change in api commited by liam to bonddb. I've since reversed
the change because it caused to many problems for varies projects and people. I'm sorry that happen, i try and keep such nasty errors out of subversion. Ibrahim Shaame wrote: > With all respect to bond programmers and maintainers, I think with > "configure - make - make install" I would have solved my problems a > while ago. I am not good in scons but I was expecting it to be easier, > but the result is that I have not managed to install bond and it does > not say what's wrong. I don't think when bond gives you this type of > message it is question of being experienced in compiling or not: > "src/bondapi.c:81: error: too few arguments to function `bonddb_loadall' > scons: *** [src/bondapi.o] Error 1 > scons: building terminated because of errors." > > Is this an error caused by inexperienced person compiling? > > Ibrahim > > > On 10/31/07, *Davor Ocelic* <docelic@... > <mailto:docelic@...>> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 08:54:28AM -0400, Jeff Watson wrote: > > Whats really the advantage of using scons instead of make!? Is > it just > > preference or are there actually capabilities within scons being > used? The > > build instructions are certainly very different than most project > > distributions i have used. Curious... > > The instructions are the same as for almost every scons > compile: scons && scons install. > > There's enough GNU Make pro & con articles on the web so you could > look them up. > > All projects I saw that used scons were easy to install and > worked literally with scons && scons install. > > Those compile problems that past few guys had were related to their > build setup and their (in)experience with compiling software, not > with Bond or scons. > > Cya, > -doc > > > > -Jeff Watson > > -RedGibson@... <mailto:RedGibson@...> > > > > On 10/30/07, Dru < dru@... <mailto:dru@...>> wrote: > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > I sent an email before about the new version of bond, I > thought I'd say > > > it again with a > > > brief overview of the changes since 2.4.3. > > > > > > The major enhancements : > > > > > > This release is a big improvement over the previous version of > bond, and > > > has been long delayed for release. > > > > > > Newer widgets, and improvements to existing widgets. Calender > widget, > > > color widget, file chooser, changing of colors & fonts, better > date/time > > > support. Timer triggers, have timed events that can open new > windows or > > > run sql queries. Ability to run sql patches within your > application. > > > User administration and locking down parts of the application > down to > > > certain users, customized error messages - raise errors in SQL > which > > > follow back to the user interface. Support for keystroke > triggers, so > > > you can write applications that interface with barcodes, magstrip > > > readers etc. Revised of build system. And many many bug > fixes, and > > > many other new features. > > > > > > I havn't built the windows system binaries yet. Does anyone > use these > > > binaries? I'm just wondering? Or our installer maker? I'm just > wondering > > > what stuff should be kept in the release, and what should be > trimmed > > > back to keep the size of the downloads down. > > > > > > Also, if you havn't already registered, you can register at > > > http://bugzilla.treshna.com <http://bugzilla.treshna.com/> > > > This is where much of where the development talk, and bugs are > logged. > > > So if there > > > is something pesky about bond you have noticed and you want it > fix, let > > > us know. > > > > > > > > > http://www.treshna.com/bond/ <http://www.treshna.com/bond/> > > > http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz > <http://www.treshna.com/downloads/bond-2.7.0.tar.gz> > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Hill > > > treshna Enterprises Ltd > > > Tel: 03 366 3649 > > > Cel: 021 660 819 > > > Web: www.treshna.com <http://www.treshna.com/> > > > IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer > tech support > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bond-users mailing list > > > Bond-users@... <mailto:Bond-users@...> > > > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bond-users mailing list > > Bond-users@... <mailto:Bond-users@...> > > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Bond-users mailing list > Bond-users@... <mailto:Bond-users@...> > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bond-users mailing list > Bond-users@... > http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users > -- Andrew Hill treshna Enterprises Ltd Tel: 03 366 3649 Cel: 021 660 819 Web: www.treshna.com IT Consultancy - Websites - Database development - Computer tech support _______________________________________________ Bond-users mailing list Bond-users@... http://hcoop.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bond-users |
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