relays.ordb.org returning positive for everything?

[Benny Pedersen]

On Wed, April 16, 2008 11:13, Daniel Zaugg wrote:

> Wow ! Aren't you guys proud to be postmasters !

my cat turn off my mailserver when it makes to much noice for his sleep :)

> For me being a postmaster clearly is a chore (one of many) to wich I devote
> an absolute minimum amount of my precious time.

why have this life at all ?

> BTW firing me is not an option since I'm the CEO of my own (small) private
> owned company :-)

np

> Expecting all postmaster to be highly skilled professionals who have studied
> all the ins an outs of their system

even read books migth not help :-)

> is in my view an unrealistic approach of a world where almost every company
> has to have an email server.

according to spf hotmail.com have one million mta with out any problems :-)

> I gladly accept all the qualifications you made about being "half baked"
> "not decent" etc..

problems is mostly that sites belive that there systems will be safe in future
even when its not upgraded, it was when thay payed a student to install it :)

> Is there somewhere a list of all the still working RBL's or an easy way for
> an unskilled neophyt like me to check if an RBL is still valid?

see bind logs



Benny Pedersen
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[Arvid Ephraim Picciani-2]

On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:13:04 Daniel Zaugg wrote:
> Wow ! Aren't you guys proud to be postmasters !
no. the real one got fired.

hehe

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best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Arvid Ephraim Picciani

[Aaron Wolfe]

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Daniel Zaugg
<Daniel.Zaugg@...> wrote:

>
>
>  John Rudd wrote:
>  >
>  >> the error is ignored since it has no practical consequence (except
>  >> maybe in some unread log file)
>  >
>  > Unread/unchecked only by half-assed postmasters who aren't worth their
>  > salt, and should thus be fired.
>  >
>  >
>  > A decent postmaster at least generates summaries of traffic ...
>
> >
>  > A postmaster who doesn't check their logs in any fashion deserves
>  > whatever they get.
>  >
>
> > Clearly, only half-baked providers do the latter.
>  >
>
>  Wow ! Aren't you guys proud to be postmasters !
>
>  For me being a postmaster clearly is a chore (one of many) to wich I devote
>  an absolute minimum amount of my precious time.
>  BTW firing me is not an option since I'm the CEO of my own (small) private
>  owned company :-)
>
>  Expecting all postmaster to be highly skilled professionals who have studied
>  all the ins an outs of their system is in my view an unrealistic approach of
>  a world where almost every company has to have an email server.
>  I gladly accept all the qualifications you made about being "half baked"
>  "not decent" etc..
>
>  Is there somewhere a list of all the still working RBL's or an easy way for
>  an unskilled neophyt like me to check if an RBL is still valid?

Google should give you pointers to RBL information.  RBLs, like many
spam fighting tools, are not a "set it and forget it" type of thing.
A properly working mail server (very little spam, practically no false
positives, good uptime, etc) is not a trivial task.  Spam is a moving
target.  Your config may need frequent adjustment and a close eye on
the logs to keeps things working well.

Since you're not interested in committing time to this task, why not
use one of the many services that can do this work for you?  They are
generally inexpensive and easy to use.

-Aaron