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psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesIn my restricted windows environment the .msi installer fails because I do not have sufficient privileges. Is there a simple .zip somewhere with everything necessary to run?
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privileges
I dont' know if it helps but you can try with
PsyCollider Bundled. It will not require installation. See here: BUT: it's 3.0, so you are very very far from actual psyc 3.2 performances. Best -a- On 6 May 2008, at 00:25, Karl Yerkes wrote: In my restricted windows environment the .msi installer fails because I do not have sufficient privileges. Is there a simple .zip somewhere with everything necessary to run? -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> andrea.valle@... -------------------------------------------------- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesThanks, Andrea.
I found out that you can unpack .msi files without really installing them by doing this: msiexec /a PsyColliderInstaller.msi Once everything is unpacked, the Psycollider.exe works, no problem. -- karl On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@...> wrote:
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesnice to know! specially if you have to tech a workshop at a uni where it
is difficult to get the IT to install software. enrike Karl Yerkes(e)k dio: > Thanks, Andrea. > > I found out that you can unpack .msi files without really installing > them by doing this: > > msiexec /a PsyColliderInstaller.msi > > Once everything is unpacked, the Psycollider.exe works, no problem. > > -- karl > > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@... > <mailto:valle@...>> wrote: > > I dont' know if it helps but you can try with > PsyCollider Bundled. It will not require installation. > See here: > http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sc.html > > BUT: > it's 3.0, so you are very very far from actual psyc 3.2 performances. > > Best > -a- > > > On 6 May 2008, at 00:25, Karl Yerkes wrote: > >> In my restricted windows environment the .msi installer fails >> because I do not have sufficient privileges. Is there a simple >> .zip somewhere with everything necessary to run? >> _______________________________________________ >> sc-users mailing list >> sc-users@... <mailto:sc-users@...> >> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > -------------------------------------------------- > Andrea Valle > -------------------------------------------------- > CIRMA - DAMS > Università degli Studi di Torino > --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ > --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle > --> andrea.valle@... <mailto:andrea.valle@...> > -------------------------------------------------- > > > / > " > Think of it as seasoning > . noise [salt] is boring > . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring > . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty > " > (Ken Perlin on noise) > / > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > sc-users@... <mailto:sc-users@...> > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > > > > -- > -- ky > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > sc-users@... > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesYeah that is useful, we should probably add it to the readme.
John 2008/5/7 altern <altern2@...>: > nice to know! specially if you have to tech a workshop at a uni where it > is difficult to get the IT to install software. > > enrike > > > Karl Yerkes(e)k dio: > > > Thanks, Andrea. > > > > I found out that you can unpack .msi files without really installing > > them by doing this: > > > > msiexec /a PsyColliderInstaller.msi > > > > Once everything is unpacked, the Psycollider.exe works, no problem. > > > > -- karl > > > > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@... > > > <mailto:valle@...>> wrote: > > > > I dont' know if it helps but you can try with > > PsyCollider Bundled. It will not require installation. > > See here: > > http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sc.html > > > > BUT: > > it's 3.0, so you are very very far from actual psyc 3.2 performances. > > > > Best > > -a- > > > > > > On 6 May 2008, at 00:25, Karl Yerkes wrote: > > > >> In my restricted windows environment the .msi installer fails > >> because I do not have sufficient privileges. Is there a simple > >> .zip somewhere with everything necessary to run? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sc-users mailing list > >> sc-users@... <mailto:sc-users@...> > > >> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Andrea Valle > > -------------------------------------------------- > > CIRMA - DAMS > > Università degli Studi di Torino > > --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ > > --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle > > --> andrea.valle@... <mailto:andrea.valle@...> > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > / > > " > > Think of it as seasoning > > . noise [salt] is boring > > . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring > > . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty > > " > > (Ken Perlin on noise) > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sc-users mailing list > > sc-users@... <mailto:sc-users@...> > > > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- ky > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sc-users mailing list > > sc-users@... > > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > sc-users@... > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegeshi
does anyone if this should work on machines where psycollider has not been installed yet? i mean the dlls requiered would not be available in the C:\windows folder but locally. I am trying on a fresh machine and scsynth does not work, I am not sure if this is the reason or something else missing. enrike altern(e)k dio: > nice to know! specially if you have to tech a workshop at a uni where it > is difficult to get the IT to install software. > > enrike > > > Karl Yerkes(e)k dio: >> Thanks, Andrea. >> >> I found out that you can unpack .msi files without really installing >> them by doing this: >> >> msiexec /a PsyColliderInstaller.msi >> >> Once everything is unpacked, the Psycollider.exe works, no problem. >> >> -- karl >> >> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Andrea Valle <valle@... >> <mailto:valle@...>> wrote: >> >> I dont' know if it helps but you can try with PsyCollider >> Bundled. It will not require installation. >> See here: >> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/sc.html >> >> BUT: >> it's 3.0, so you are very very far from actual psyc 3.2 performances. >> >> Best >> -a- >> >> >> On 6 May 2008, at 00:25, Karl Yerkes wrote: >> >>> In my restricted windows environment the .msi installer fails >>> because I do not have sufficient privileges. Is there a simple >>> .zip somewhere with everything necessary to run? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sc-users mailing list >>> sc-users@... <mailto:sc-users@...> >>> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Andrea Valle >> -------------------------------------------------- >> CIRMA - DAMS >> Università degli Studi di Torino >> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ >> --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle >> --> andrea.valle@... <mailto:andrea.valle@...> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> / >> " >> Think of it as seasoning >> . noise [salt] is boring >> . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring >> . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty >> " >> (Ken Perlin on noise) >> / >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sc-users mailing list >> sc-users@... <mailto:sc-users@...> >> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- ky >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sc-users mailing list >> sc-users@... >> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesOn Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:07 AM, altern <altern2@...> wrote:
> hi > > does anyone if this should work on machines where psycollider has not > been installed yet? i mean the dlls requiered would not be available in > the C:\windows folder but locally. I am trying on a fresh machine and > scsynth does not work, I am not sure if this is the reason or something > else missing. That sounds like the issue. Chris switched from a zip archive to an installer because of dll hell. What is the objection to installing once as an admin user, then running the software under a limited-rights account? (Even in OSX, installing some software requires administrator password authentication... and in Windows, refusing to install anything as admin means not having much software at all :) hjh -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshark70@... http://www.dewdrop-world.net "Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal." -- Whitman _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesmy objection is that i often work in situations where installing something (even once) as administrator is not an option. also, there is no reason why the install should require administrator privileges, so it an unnecessary annoyance. i would feel differently if there were a demonstrable security concern that would be solved by requiring administrator privileges. avoiding dll hell is great. i am for it. however, i am pretty sure that there is a way to build a .msi that does not require administrator to install.
-- karl On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:41 AM, James Harkins <jamshark70@...> wrote:
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privilegesHello (not from dll-hell today...)
the problem here are the dependencies of MSVC applications and how they are met on a variety of Windows platforms (if you think every Linux is different, take a look at Windows...) The solution by the MS Installer is to install side-by-side dlls, which - to my knowledge - requires some administrator rights. I am sure there is a way to build an installer that would not do this (e.g. using the excellent http://wix.sourceforge.net/), but this is far from trivial. I would be much more in favour of investing the time into getting the windows port compiled with scons/mingw (the sc- plugins are switched already and working fine...) and cutting out all MS dlls. Chris On 14 May 2008, at 21:43, Karl Yerkes wrote: > my objection is that i often work in situations where installing > something (even once) as administrator is not an option. also, > there is no reason why the install should require administrator > privileges, so it an unnecessary annoyance. i would feel > differently if there were a demonstrable security concern that > would be solved by requiring administrator privileges. avoiding > dll hell is great. i am for it. however, i am pretty sure that > there is a way to build a .msi that does not require administrator > to install. > > -- karl > > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:41 AM, James Harkins > <jamshark70@...> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:07 AM, altern <altern2@...> wrote: > > hi > > > > does anyone if this should work on machines where psycollider has > not > > been installed yet? i mean the dlls requiered would not be > available in > > the C:\windows folder but locally. I am trying on a fresh machine > and > > scsynth does not work, I am not sure if this is the reason or > something > > else missing. > > That sounds like the issue. Chris switched from a zip archive to an > installer because of dll hell. > > What is the objection to installing once as an admin user, then > running the software under a limited-rights account? (Even in OSX, > installing some software requires administrator password > authentication... and in Windows, refusing to install anything as > admin means not having much software at all :) > > hjh > > > -- > James Harkins /// dewdrop world > jamshark70@... > http://www.dewdrop-world.net > > "Come said the Muse, > Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, > Sing me the universal." -- Whitman > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > sc-users@... > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users > > > > -- > -- ky > _______________________________________________ > sc-users mailing list > sc-users@... > http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privileges> I would be much more in favour of investing the > time into getting the windows port compiled with scons/mingw (the sc- > plugins are switched already and working fine...) and cutting out all > MS dlls. this sounds like a good idea. enrike _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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Re: psycollider, install/use without administrator privileges> What is the objection to installing once as an admin user, then > running the software under a limited-rights account? (Even in OSX, > installing some software requires administrator password > authentication... and in Windows, refusing to install anything as > admin means not having much software at all :) say you have a workshop at a spanish university ;) getting admin rights to install software at the university's machines would take several layers of bureaucracy sometimes difficult to get solved on time for the actual workshop. Having a non admin installer or a fully standalone application would help. On OSX there are tons of apps that dont requiere admin privileges, just drop the app to any folder and they work. I think thats really nice. enrike _______________________________________________ sc-users mailing list sc-users@... http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users |
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