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[Tom Hogarty]

Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon.  Yoke and mast winch worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob Dobson,  this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering.  Easy as pie!  Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself.  I had thought we would need to host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs.  It did take much, much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in the process.  Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River south of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch.  I pulled the pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as well.  Is there a separate control pin for the boom?  The pin for the pop top attachment is on the starboard side of the mast.  None on the port side where I might expect on for the boom.  My archive search was not as yet helpful.
Thanks,
Tom Hogarty

[Arthur H. Czerwonky]

Tom,
Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each of the two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast.  Be aware that on the IMF mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling tube ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved.  I believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of the mast.
Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
Art

-----Original Message-----

>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty@...>
>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>To: rhodes22-list@...
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  progress
>
>
>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon.  Yoke and mast winch
>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob
>Dobson,  this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering.  Easy as pie!
>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself.  I had thought we would need to
>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs.  It did take much,
>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in the
>process.  Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River south
>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch.  I pulled the
>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as well.  Is
>there a separate control pin for the boom?  The pin for the pop top
>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast.  None on the port side
>where I might expect on for the boom.  My archive search was not as yet
>helpful.
>Thanks,
>Tom Hogarty
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[Tom Hogarty]

Thanks, Art, here is a picture of parts of the two "cars" on the lower mast.  I can see the indentation where the collar of the boom pin latch  fit.  How do I obtain and replace the pin?  Does the mast need to be lowered?
I did not find the archives helpful.
Many Thanks,
Tom

Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:

Tom,
Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each of the two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast.  Be aware that on the IMF mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling tube ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved.  I believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of the mast.
Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Hogarty <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  progress
>
>
>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon.  Yoke and mast winch
>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob
>Dobson,  this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering.  Easy as pie!
>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself.  I had thought we would need to
>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs.  It did take much,
>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in the
>process.  Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River south
>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch.  I pulled the
>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as well.  Is
>there a separate control pin for the boom?  The pin for the pop top
>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast.  None on the port side
>where I might expect on for the boom.  My archive search was not as yet
>helpful.
>Thanks,
>Tom Hogarty
>--
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[Arthur H. Czerwonky]

Tom,
I wouldn't lose sleep over the archives issue.  Our Rhoadie skippers, with just a few exceptions, have enough patience with our fleet colleagues to address specific questions like this, even given that many are repeated.  Your picture says it all - you can see both pins are the same - Stan will probably not have a replacement, but can tell you where he gets the assembled 'car'.  In the interim, the boom will have to be moved up or down infrequently - I have never had to put mine into the lower position - use a #6 machine screw (or one with reasonable fit, including length) from HD to hold it in either position, until you can replace the pin.  Stan may be able to send you a replacement car for a cost.
R,
Art

-----Original Message-----

>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty@...>
>Sent: Jul 15, 2008 7:42 PM
>To: rhodes22-list@...
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>
>
>Thanks, Art, here is a picture of parts of the two "cars" on the lower mast.
>I can see the indentation where the collar of the boom pin latch  fit.  How
>do I obtain and replace the pin?  Does the mast need to be lowered?
>I did not find the archives helpful.
>Many Thanks,
>Tom http://www.nabble.com/file/p18477261/IMG_0657.jpeg 
>
>
>
>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>> Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each of the
>> two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast.  Be aware that on the IMF
>> mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling tube
>> ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved.  I
>> believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of the
>> mast.
>> Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty@...>
>>>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>>>To: rhodes22-list@...
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  progress
>>>
>>>
>>>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon.  Yoke and mast
>winch
>>>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob
>>>Dobson,  this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering.  Easy as pie!
>>>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself.  I had thought we would need to
>>>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs.  It did take
>much,
>>>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in the
>>>process.  Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River
>south
>>>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch.  I pulled the
>>>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as well.
>Is
>>>there a separate control pin for the boom?  The pin for the pop top
>>>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast.  None on the port side
>>>where I might expect on for the boom.  My archive search was not as yet
>>>helpful.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom Hogarty
>>>--
>>>View this message in context:
>http://www.nabble.com/progress-tp18436119p18436119.html
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>>>
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[Tootle]

Both of you guys failed.  Look at the subject line for this discussion and ask it someone else had the same or similar problem could they tell from your subject line the subject matter of the discussion contained therein?

This is especially problematic for Art who has responded with otherwise good information.  

When a post is made with 'wrong' subject line, do not hit reply but begin make a reply using an appropriate subject line so discussion subject matter can be identified.

With a subject line of 'Progress', one has to ask how many list members thought you were progressives having a discussion about 'Progress'.  Your subject line may have eliminated many of the reclusive members of this forum.

Even Mark P.'s misspelling got his idea accross.  Even a close mispelling or vague discription in street language is better than a subject line that does not hint of the topic.

Tom, if you call General Boats, remember that Stan request such calls be made late in the day.  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA


Tom,
I wouldn't lose sleep over the archives issue.  Our Rhoadie skippers, with just a few exceptions, have enough patience with our fleet colleagues to address specific questions like this, even given that many are repeated.  Your picture says it all - you can see both pins are the same - Stan will probably not have a replacement, but can tell you where he gets the assembled 'car'.  In the interim, the boom will have to be moved up or down infrequently - I have never had to put mine into the lower position - use a #6 machine screw (or one with reasonable fit, including length) from HD to hold it in either position, until you can replace the pin.  Stan may be able to send you a replacement car for a cost.
R,
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Hogarty <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Jul 15, 2008 7:42 PM
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>
>
>Thanks, Art, here is a picture of parts of the two "cars" on the lower mast.
>I can see the indentation where the collar of the boom pin latch  fit.  How
>do I obtain and replace the pin?  Does the mast need to be lowered?
>I did not find the archives helpful.
>Many Thanks,
>Tom http://www.nabble.com/file/p18477261/IMG_0657.jpeg 
>

>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>> Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each of the
>> two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast.  Be aware that on the IMF
>> mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling tube
>> ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved.  I
>> believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of the
>> mast.
>> Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Hogarty <[e-mail]>
>>>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>>>To: [e-mail]
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  progress
>>>
>>>
>>>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon.  Yoke and mast
>winch
>>>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob
>>>Dobson,  this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering.  Easy as pie!
>>>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself.  I had thought we would need to
>>>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs.  It did take
>much,
>>>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in the
>>>process.  Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River
>south
>>>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch.  I pulled the
>>>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as well.
>Is
>>>there a separate control pin for the boom?  The pin for the pop top
>>>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast.  None on the port side
>>>where I might expect on for the boom.  My archive search was not as yet
>>>helpful.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom Hogarty
>>>--
>>>View this message in context:
>http://www.nabble.com/progress-tp18436119p18436119.html
>>>Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
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[Tom Hogarty]

Ed, Art, Rummy
Thanks, now I am again making some progress.  Interesting process.  Hard to search for unknown terms.  Had no idea this black slider  that keeps the boom up was called a "car."  Searched "car" on  this site and found an article about a naked man flagging down an auto with a dead pigeon, but very little on the mast gizmo.  You gentlemen have stepped in and really helped.  I will order the part from Stan this afternoon.  My mast is up, but I have not yet added the traveler in the backstays, nor have I tuned the stays.  Does anyone know if I have to lower the mast to replace the mast boom car?  I did not want to proceed with the rigging only to lower the mast again.  Ed, I am sorry if my mislabeling the subject line inflamed,   aroused, titillated, or otherwise diverted any progressive from their immediate task of saving our collective national ass.
Tom



Both of you guys failed.  Look at the subject line for this discussion and ask it someone else had the same or similar problem could they tell from your subject line the subject matter of the discussion contained therein?

This is especially problematic for Art who has responded with otherwise good information.  

When a post is made with 'wrong' subject line, do not hit reply but begin make a reply using an appropriate subject line so discussion subject matter can be identified.

With a subject line of 'Progress', one has to ask how many list members thought you were progressives having a discussion about 'Progress'.  Your subject line may have eliminated many of the reclusive members of this forum.

Even Mark P.'s misspelling got his idea accross.  Even a close mispelling or vague discription in street language is better than a subject line that does not hint of the topic.

Tom, if you call General Boats, remember that Stan request such calls be made late in the day.  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:

Tom,
I wouldn't lose sleep over the archives issue.  Our Rhoadie skippers, with just a few exceptions, have enough patience with our fleet colleagues to address specific questions like this, even given that many are repeated.  Your picture says it all - you can see both pins are the same - Stan will probably not have a replacement, but can tell you where he gets the assembled 'car'.  In the interim, the boom will have to be moved up or down infrequently - I have never had to put mine into the lower position - use a #6 machine screw (or one with reasonable fit, including length) from HD to hold it in either position, until you can replace the pin.  Stan may be able to send you a replacement car for a cost.
R,
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Hogarty <[e-mail]>
>Sent: Jul 15, 2008 7:42 PM
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>
>
>Thanks, Art, here is a picture of parts of the two "cars" on the lower mast.
>I can see the indentation where the collar of the boom pin latch  fit.  How
>do I obtain and replace the pin?  Does the mast need to be lowered?
>I did not find the archives helpful.
>Many Thanks,
>Tom http://www.nabble.com/file/p18477261/IMG_0657.jpeg 
>

>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>> Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each of the
>> two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast.  Be aware that on the IMF
>> mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling tube
>> ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved.  I
>> believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of the
>> mast.
>> Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Hogarty <[e-mail]>
>>>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>>>To: [e-mail]
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  progress
>>>
>>>
>>>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon.  Yoke and mast
>winch
>>>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner, Bob
>>>Dobson,  this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering.  Easy as pie!
>>>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself.  I had thought we would need to
>>>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs.  It did take
>much,
>>>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in the
>>>process.  Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes River
>south
>>>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch.  I pulled the
>>>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as well.
>Is
>>>there a separate control pin for the boom?  The pin for the pop top
>>>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast.  None on the port side
>>>where I might expect on for the boom.  My archive search was not as yet
>>>helpful.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Tom Hogarty
>>>--
>>>View this message in context:
>http://www.nabble.com/progress-tp18436119p18436119.html
>>>Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>__________________________________________________
>>>To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
>http://www.rhodes22.org/list