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by petelargo
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Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now says "thanks, but no thanks."
Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her own http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html |
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political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin ?
by Tootle
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Peter,
Kathleen Parker is member of main stream media. I am not aware of conservative credentials. Does this Kathleen Parker have any children? Is she jealous? The personal attacks by the Main Stream Media and hidden Obama gang are constant, but that does not make any of true or fact. Keep in mind that people can call themselves about anything they want to. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin ?
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Another conservative has turned against Palin:
Libertarian blogger and senior editor at Reason magazine, Radley Balko, once heralded Pailn as "a good pick." Looks like recent events, specifically her vague answer today on her foreign policy credentials, has changed his mind. He is now writing that he was wrong to praise her. Add Balko to the growing list. As she continues to talk and show her lack of knowledge of the issues, I am convinced that conservatives with any comprehension of the seriousness of the issues today will have to abandon their support.
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin ?
by Brad Haslett-2
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Pete,
These talking heads will flip a half-a-dozen each ways before Nov 4. Balko's bug-up-his-ass is Palin's answer to one question. What exactly was Jimma Carter's foreign experience? Bill Clinton's? John Edwards? The VP pick with the most foreign experience after George Herbert Walker Bush was Dick Cheney and all you ever do is bitch about him. Here's what I worry about, what does the top of the ticket really believe in?, besides "community organizing" whatever that is. For example, what is The One's position on missile defense systems? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP06C37o35Q Brad On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen@...> wrote: > > Another conservative has turned against Palin: > > Libertarian blogger and senior editor at Reason magazine, Radley Balko, once > heralded Pailn as "a good pick." > > Looks like recent events, specifically her vague answer today on her foreign > policy credentials, has changed his mind. He is now writing that he was > wrong to praise her. > > Add Balko to the growing list. As she continues to talk and show her lack > of knowledge of the issues, I am convinced that conservatives with any > comprehension of the seriousness of the issues today will have to abandon > their support. > > > > Tootle wrote: >> >> Peter, >> >> Kathleen Parker is member of main stream media. I am not aware of >> conservative credentials. Does this Kathleen Parker have any children? >> Is she jealous? >> >> The personal attacks by the Main Stream Media and hidden Obama gang are >> constant, but that does not make any of true or fact. >> >> Keep in mind that people can call themselves about anything they want to. >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> >> >> >> petelargo wrote: >>> >>> Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now >>> says "thanks, but no thanks." >>> >>> Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her >>> own >>> >>> http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html >>> >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/political---the-incredible-shrinking-sarah-palin-tp19704986p19706475.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
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Pete, you keep tossing this up here like you think some folks on here
has decided on Palin because of what someone else decided. I don't think that's the case, for the most part. petelargo wrote: > Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now says > "thanks, but no thanks." > > Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her own > > http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
by Brad Haslett-2
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Herb,
Speaking of Sarah Palin, how many books were banned in Wasilla? Zip, zero, nada! Never happened. The MSM has attacked this woman and her family viciously and they keep coming up empty. Now here's how you ban books (see below). Notice the American publisher really showed some stones. That's how you ban books, boys and girls. Brad ---------------------------- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4837994.ece >From The Sunday Times September 28, 2008 Muslim gang firebombs publisher of Allah novel, Martin Rynja David Leppard Scotland Yard's counter-terrorist command yesterday foiled an alleged plot by Islamic extremists to kill the publisher of a forthcoming novel featuring sexual encounters between the Prophet Muhammad and his child bride. Early yesterday armed undercover officers arrested three men after a petrol bomb was pushed through the door of the north London home of the book's publisher. The Metropolitan police said the target of the assassination plot, the Dutch publisher Martin Rynja, had not been injured. The suspected terror gang was being followed by undercover police and the fire was quickly put out after the fire brigade smashed down the front door. The foiled terrorist attack recalled the death threats and uproar 20 years ago following the publication of Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, and the worldwide protests that followed the publication in a Danish newspaper in 2005 of cartoons deemed offensive to Islam, in which more than 100 people died. Security officials believe Rynja was targeted for assassination because his firm, Gibson Square, is preparing to publish a romantic novel about Aisha, child bride of the Prophet Muhammad. The Jewel of Medina, by the first-time American author Sherry Jones, describes an imaginary sex scene between the prophet and his 14-year-old wife. It was withdrawn from publication in America last month after its publisher there, Random House, said it feared a violent reaction by "a small radical segment" of Muslims. It said "credible and unrelated sources" had warned that the book could incite violence. Random House reacted after Islamic scholars objected to its contents, saying it treated the wife of the Prophet as a sex object. One of them, Denise Spellberg, of the University of Texas at Austin, described the novel as "soft-core pornography", referring to a scene in which Muhammad consummates his marriage to Aisha. She called it "a declaration of war" and a "national security issue". At the time, her warnings were dismissed by the author. "Anyone who reads the book will not be offended," said Jones. "I wrote the book with the utmost respect for Islam." However, Jones admitted receiving death threats after the book was withdrawn. It was soon after this that the Met appears to have received a tip-off that the British publisher who had subsequently agreed to print it could be the target of an attack. A Met spokesman said three men had been arrested in "a preplanned intelligence-led operation" at about 2.25am on Saturday. Two of the suspects were arrested in the street outside Rynja's four-storey townhouse in Lonsdale Square, Islington, while the third was stopped by officers in an armed vehicle near Angel Tube station. They were being questioned yesterday on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, a spokesman said. Rynja, 44, could not be contacted yesterday. He is believed to be under police guard. Yesterday, Natasha Kern, Jones's agent, said she was shocked to learn of the attack. She said the book had been misinterpreted by its critics and did not contain sex scenes, as had been alleged. "I honestly believe that if people read the book they will see it is not disrespectful of Muhammad, and moderate Muslims will not be offended. I don't want anyone to risk their lives but we could never imagine that there would be some madmen who would do something like this. I'm so sad about this act of terrorism. Moderate Muslims will suffer because of a few radicals." Kern said it was too early for her to comment on whether the book should be withdrawn. "That's up to Martin, and I still need to absorb the fact that he was at risk. I'm just so glad he has not been hurt." Residents said they saw armed police break down the door of Rynja's house, helped by firefighters. Francesca Liebowitz, 16, a neighbour, said: "The police couldn't get the door open so the fire brigade battered it down." Another neighbour, who declined to be named, said: "I was woken at about 3am and I looked out the window and I saw several unmarked cars with what I now think were police officers in them. These officers came out of the cars and there was huge screaming and shouting. Some of the police officers were carrying sub-machineguns. "I then saw a small fire at the bottom of the door at the house. I heard the police officers shout and scream and try to get neighbours out of the house." The Jewel of Medina is due to be published next month. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons@...> wrote: > Pete, you keep tossing this up here like you think some folks on here > has decided on Palin because of what someone else decided. I don't think > that's the case, for the most part. > > petelargo wrote: >> Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now says >> "thanks, but no thanks." >> >> Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her own >> >> http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin ?
by hparsons
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That's cute Pete. So, those conservatives that don't do what you want
are lacking "any comprehension of the seriousness of the issues today". I don't think so... petelargo wrote: > Another conservative has turned against Palin: > > Libertarian blogger and senior editor at Reason magazine, Radley Balko, once > heralded Pailn as "a good pick." > > Looks like recent events, specifically her vague answer today on her foreign > policy credentials, has changed his mind. He is now writing that he was > wrong to praise her. > > Add Balko to the growing list. As she continues to talk and show her lack > of knowledge of the issues, I am convinced that conservatives with any > comprehension of the seriousness of the issues today will have to abandon > their support. > > > > Tootle wrote: > >> Peter, >> >> Kathleen Parker is member of main stream media. I am not aware of >> conservative credentials. Does this Kathleen Parker have any children? >> Is she jealous? >> >> The personal attacks by the Main Stream Media and hidden Obama gang are >> constant, but that does not make any of true or fact. >> >> Keep in mind that people can call themselves about anything they want to. >> >> Ed K >> Greenville, SC, USA >> >> >> >> petelargo wrote: >> >>> Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now >>> says "thanks, but no thanks." >>> >>> Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her >>> own >>> >>> http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html >>> >>> >> > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
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Brad,
That can't be correct. There are internet sites that say she DID ban books. Check with Pete, I'm sure he's got some links to them!! Too many people want freedoms for their views, and supression of every one else's. Brad Haslett wrote: > Herb, > > Speaking of Sarah Palin, how many books were banned in Wasilla? Zip, > zero, nada! Never happened. The MSM has attacked this woman and her > family viciously and they keep coming up empty. Now here's how you ban > books (see below). Notice the American publisher really showed some > stones. That's how you ban books, boys and girls. > > Brad > > ---------------------------- > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4837994.ece > > >From The Sunday Times > September 28, 2008 > Muslim gang firebombs publisher of Allah novel, Martin Rynja > David Leppard > > Scotland Yard's counter-terrorist command yesterday foiled an alleged > plot by Islamic extremists to kill the publisher of a forthcoming > novel featuring sexual encounters between the Prophet Muhammad and his > child bride. > > Early yesterday armed undercover officers arrested three men after a > petrol bomb was pushed through the door of the north London home of > the book's publisher. > > The Metropolitan police said the target of the assassination plot, the > Dutch publisher Martin Rynja, had not been injured. > > The suspected terror gang was being followed by undercover police and > the fire was quickly put out after the fire brigade smashed down the > front door. > > The foiled terrorist attack recalled the death threats and uproar 20 > years ago following the publication of Salman Rushdie's Satanic > Verses, and the worldwide protests that followed the publication in a > Danish newspaper in 2005 of cartoons deemed offensive to Islam, in > which more than 100 people died. > > Security officials believe Rynja was targeted for assassination > because his firm, Gibson Square, is preparing to publish a romantic > novel about Aisha, child bride of the Prophet Muhammad. The Jewel of > Medina, by the first-time American author Sherry Jones, describes an > imaginary sex scene between the prophet and his 14-year-old wife. > > It was withdrawn from publication in America last month after its > publisher there, Random House, said it feared a violent reaction by "a > small radical segment" of Muslims. It said "credible and unrelated > sources" had warned that the book could incite violence. > > Random House reacted after Islamic scholars objected to its contents, > saying it treated the wife of the Prophet as a sex object. One of > them, Denise Spellberg, of the University of Texas at Austin, > described the novel as "soft-core pornography", referring to a scene > in which Muhammad consummates his marriage to Aisha. She called it "a > declaration of war" and a "national security issue". > > At the time, her warnings were dismissed by the author. "Anyone who > reads the book will not be offended," said Jones. "I wrote the book > with the utmost respect for Islam." However, Jones admitted receiving > death threats after the book was withdrawn. > > It was soon after this that the Met appears to have received a tip-off > that the British publisher who had subsequently agreed to print it > could be the target of an attack. > > A Met spokesman said three men had been arrested in "a preplanned > intelligence-led operation" at about 2.25am on Saturday. > > Two of the suspects were arrested in the street outside Rynja's > four-storey townhouse in Lonsdale Square, Islington, while the third > was stopped by officers in an armed vehicle near Angel Tube station. > > They were being questioned yesterday on suspicion of the commission, > preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, a spokesman said. > > Rynja, 44, could not be contacted yesterday. He is believed to be > under police guard. > > Yesterday, Natasha Kern, Jones's agent, said she was shocked to learn > of the attack. She said the book had been misinterpreted by its > critics and did not contain sex scenes, as had been alleged. > > "I honestly believe that if people read the book they will see it is > not disrespectful of Muhammad, and moderate Muslims will not be > offended. I don't want anyone to risk their lives but we could never > imagine that there would be some madmen who would do something like > this. I'm so sad about this act of terrorism. Moderate Muslims will > suffer because of a few radicals." > > Kern said it was too early for her to comment on whether the book > should be withdrawn. "That's up to Martin, and I still need to absorb > the fact that he was at risk. I'm just so glad he has not been hurt." > > Residents said they saw armed police break down the door of Rynja's > house, helped by firefighters. > > Francesca Liebowitz, 16, a neighbour, said: "The police couldn't get > the door open so the fire brigade battered it down." > > Another neighbour, who declined to be named, said: "I was woken at > about 3am and I looked out the window and I saw several unmarked cars > with what I now think were police officers in them. These officers > came out of the cars and there was huge screaming and shouting. Some > of the police officers were carrying sub-machineguns. > > "I then saw a small fire at the bottom of the door at the house. I > heard the police officers shout and scream and try to get neighbours > out of the house." > > The Jewel of Medina is due to be published next month. > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons@...> wrote: > >> Pete, you keep tossing this up here like you think some folks on here >> has decided on Palin because of what someone else decided. I don't think >> that's the case, for the most part. >> >> petelargo wrote: >> >>> Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now says >>> "thanks, but no thanks." >>> >>> Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her own >>> >>> http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
by Brad Haslett-2
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Herb,
Say it ain't so, suppress other's views? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo The Governor of Missouri came out with a statement today (see below). And here's more- http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2008m9d25-Is-the-Obama-campaign-sending-the-law-after-critics It's OK if Pete wants to question Palin's experience, that's fair game. If some pundits want to change their mind, nothing wrong with that. Chilling free speech? Bye, Bye, American Pie! Brad --------------------- Gov. Matt Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign's Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics. "St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign. "What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment. "This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson's thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election. "Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society." On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons@...> wrote: > Brad, > > That can't be correct. There are internet sites that say she DID ban > books. Check with Pete, I'm sure he's got some links to them!! > > Too many people want freedoms for their views, and supression of every > one else's. > > Brad Haslett wrote: >> Herb, >> >> Speaking of Sarah Palin, how many books were banned in Wasilla? Zip, >> zero, nada! Never happened. The MSM has attacked this woman and her >> family viciously and they keep coming up empty. Now here's how you ban >> books (see below). Notice the American publisher really showed some >> stones. That's how you ban books, boys and girls. >> >> Brad >> >> ---------------------------- >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4837994.ece >> >> >From The Sunday Times >> September 28, 2008 >> Muslim gang firebombs publisher of Allah novel, Martin Rynja >> David Leppard >> >> Scotland Yard's counter-terrorist command yesterday foiled an alleged >> plot by Islamic extremists to kill the publisher of a forthcoming >> novel featuring sexual encounters between the Prophet Muhammad and his >> child bride. >> >> Early yesterday armed undercover officers arrested three men after a >> petrol bomb was pushed through the door of the north London home of >> the book's publisher. >> >> The Metropolitan police said the target of the assassination plot, the >> Dutch publisher Martin Rynja, had not been injured. >> >> The suspected terror gang was being followed by undercover police and >> the fire was quickly put out after the fire brigade smashed down the >> front door. >> >> The foiled terrorist attack recalled the death threats and uproar 20 >> years ago following the publication of Salman Rushdie's Satanic >> Verses, and the worldwide protests that followed the publication in a >> Danish newspaper in 2005 of cartoons deemed offensive to Islam, in >> which more than 100 people died. >> >> Security officials believe Rynja was targeted for assassination >> because his firm, Gibson Square, is preparing to publish a romantic >> novel about Aisha, child bride of the Prophet Muhammad. The Jewel of >> Medina, by the first-time American author Sherry Jones, describes an >> imaginary sex scene between the prophet and his 14-year-old wife. >> >> It was withdrawn from publication in America last month after its >> publisher there, Random House, said it feared a violent reaction by "a >> small radical segment" of Muslims. It said "credible and unrelated >> sources" had warned that the book could incite violence. >> >> Random House reacted after Islamic scholars objected to its contents, >> saying it treated the wife of the Prophet as a sex object. One of >> them, Denise Spellberg, of the University of Texas at Austin, >> described the novel as "soft-core pornography", referring to a scene >> in which Muhammad consummates his marriage to Aisha. She called it "a >> declaration of war" and a "national security issue". >> >> At the time, her warnings were dismissed by the author. "Anyone who >> reads the book will not be offended," said Jones. "I wrote the book >> with the utmost respect for Islam." However, Jones admitted receiving >> death threats after the book was withdrawn. >> >> It was soon after this that the Met appears to have received a tip-off >> that the British publisher who had subsequently agreed to print it >> could be the target of an attack. >> >> A Met spokesman said three men had been arrested in "a preplanned >> intelligence-led operation" at about 2.25am on Saturday. >> >> Two of the suspects were arrested in the street outside Rynja's >> four-storey townhouse in Lonsdale Square, Islington, while the third >> was stopped by officers in an armed vehicle near Angel Tube station. >> >> They were being questioned yesterday on suspicion of the commission, >> preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, a spokesman said. >> >> Rynja, 44, could not be contacted yesterday. He is believed to be >> under police guard. >> >> Yesterday, Natasha Kern, Jones's agent, said she was shocked to learn >> of the attack. She said the book had been misinterpreted by its >> critics and did not contain sex scenes, as had been alleged. >> >> "I honestly believe that if people read the book they will see it is >> not disrespectful of Muhammad, and moderate Muslims will not be >> offended. I don't want anyone to risk their lives but we could never >> imagine that there would be some madmen who would do something like >> this. I'm so sad about this act of terrorism. Moderate Muslims will >> suffer because of a few radicals." >> >> Kern said it was too early for her to comment on whether the book >> should be withdrawn. "That's up to Martin, and I still need to absorb >> the fact that he was at risk. I'm just so glad he has not been hurt." >> >> Residents said they saw armed police break down the door of Rynja's >> house, helped by firefighters. >> >> Francesca Liebowitz, 16, a neighbour, said: "The police couldn't get >> the door open so the fire brigade battered it down." >> >> Another neighbour, who declined to be named, said: "I was woken at >> about 3am and I looked out the window and I saw several unmarked cars >> with what I now think were police officers in them. These officers >> came out of the cars and there was huge screaming and shouting. Some >> of the police officers were carrying sub-machineguns. >> >> "I then saw a small fire at the bottom of the door at the house. I >> heard the police officers shout and scream and try to get neighbours >> out of the house." >> >> The Jewel of Medina is due to be published next month. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons@...> wrote: >> >>> Pete, you keep tossing this up here like you think some folks on here >>> has decided on Palin because of what someone else decided. I don't think >>> that's the case, for the most part. >>> >>> petelargo wrote: >>> >>>> Kathleen Parker a republican conservative supporter of sarah palin now says >>>> "thanks, but no thanks." >>>> >>>> Kathleen Parker: Time to admit it: Sarah Palin is in a league just her own >>>> >>>> http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/1266865.html >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
by petelargo
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She never banned books nor did she actually ask to ban books.
She just asked what specifically what the procedure was for banning books and then asked if the librarian would object. She needs to be asked directly in this specific context what she intended. Why ask about the procedure to ban books? Why ask if the librarian would mind banning books?
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Comrade Wallace and Comrade Peter - political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
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Comrade Peter: My wife wants to know if your wife knows about your Chauvinists Post? She wants to know why the lady Rhodies are allowing such an overt Chauvinists to post without comments. Comrade Wallace: As to any compromise, I do not vote but for four people involved in this mess. After having heard that Black lady Representative's comments on tv a few weeks back, I just begin to understand the problems coming from California and the National Democratic Party. I have pointed out there are those who call themselves who call themselves Republicans, you may hear the term 'RINO'. There are others, well you may have heard the term, 'Rockefeller Republicans'. Then there are Democrats and National Democrats. The long and short of it, there has neither been a true Republican majority whereas the self serving and less than honest have held sway. As to the current bailout bill? I will look to Jim DeMint, Senator from South Carolina. I am personally acquainted with Jim and support his politics most of the time. By the way, Jim used to sail on Lake Hartwell before Washington and politics took his time. So, I encourage you to look to Jim's stands and opinions. He studies the issues diligently. As to whether I support the bailout? If Jim supports it, then I will support him. I do think that Stan's daughter has brought up a valid issue for discussion. I do think that insiders committed wrongs. The exorbitant amounts paid to Washington insiders as consultants, lobbyist, etc. are very wrong. I question Hank Paulson's part in this as former President of Goldman, Sach's. All this being said, I think that something should be done to ameliorate the situation. I think that Ben C. should comment on legal remedies for the gross payments made to CEO's and others. And how do we deal with the payments by those CEO's, insiders to political campaigns. Free speech is a person standing on a street corner expressing his opinion and it is not massive payoffs. That is not speech, it is wrong, it is graft, etc. I think some people need to go to jail, that includes CEO's of failing institutions, former CEO's, certain Senators, Congressmen, and those in charge of regulatory organizations. I have said it before, if you are knowledgeable of wrong doing and cannot stop it then you should quit the job otherwise you become a conspirator. Anyway, it is good to have you back. And imagine we recently had a post by Paul Grandholm, one of the apostles of the Rhodes list. Ed K Greenville, SC, USA |
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Re: Comrade Wallace and Comrade Peter - political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
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Ed,
That lady you speak of is Maxine Waters of California. Here's what she had to say this Spring - - In May 2008, Waters told Shell Oil President John Hofmeister at the House Judiciary Committee's Task Force on Competition Policy and Antitrust Laws, that if he didn't guarantee reduced gasoline prices if Congress let the oil industry drill where it wanted, she would be in favor of the government nationalizing American petroleum companies, her specific words were, "Guess what this liberal will be all about, this liberal will be all about socializing...." - However, she's second-in-command of the idiots behind Pelosi in the House. I'm writing my adopted Congressman Gene Taylor (D) from the Mississippi Gulf Coast this week and ask what, if anything, can be done by the Dems (if they retain control of the House) to elect a new speaker. It still boggles my mind that in the middle of this national emergency they would risk getting something positive done by loading the issue with pork. Disgraceful. Brad On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Tootle <ekroposki@...> wrote: > > > Comrade Peter: > > My wife wants to know if your wife knows about your Chauvinists Post? She > wants to know why the lady Rhodies are allowing such an overt Chauvinists to > post without comments. > > Comrade Wallace: > > As to any compromise, I do not vote but for four people involved in this > mess. After having heard that Black lady Representative's comments on tv a > few weeks back, I just begin to understand the problems coming from > California and the National Democratic Party. > > I have pointed out there are those who call themselves who call themselves > Republicans, you may hear the term 'RINO'. There are others, well you may > have heard the term, 'Rockefeller Republicans'. Then there are Democrats > and National Democrats. The long and short of it, there has neither been a > true Republican majority whereas the self serving and less than honest have > held sway. > > As to the current bailout bill? I will look to Jim DeMint, Senator from > South Carolina. I am personally acquainted with Jim and support his > politics most of the time. By the way, Jim used to sail on Lake Hartwell > before Washington and politics took his time. So, I encourage you to look > to Jim's stands and opinions. He studies the issues diligently. > > As to whether I support the bailout? If Jim supports it, then I will > support him. I do think that Stan's daughter has brought up a valid issue > for discussion. I do think that insiders committed wrongs. The exorbitant > amounts paid to Washington insiders as consultants, lobbyist, etc. are very > wrong. I question Hank Paulson's part in this as former President of > Goldman, Sach's. All this being said, I think that something should be done > to ameliorate the situation. > > I think that Ben C. should comment on legal remedies for the gross payments > made to CEO's and others. > And how do we deal with the payments by those CEO's, insiders to political > campaigns. Free speech is a person standing on a street corner expressing > his opinion and it is not massive payoffs. That is not speech, it is wrong, > it is graft, etc. > > I think some people need to go to jail, that includes CEO's of failing > institutions, former CEO's, certain Senators, Congressmen, and those in > charge of regulatory organizations. I have said it before, if you are > knowledgeable of wrong doing and cannot stop it then you should quit the job > otherwise you become a conspirator. > > Anyway, it is good to have you back. And imagine we recently had a post by > Paul Grandholm, one of the apostles of the Rhodes list. > > Ed K > Greenville, SC, USA > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/political---the-incredible-shrinking-sarah-palin-tp19704986p19716840.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Comrade Wallace and Comrade Peter - political - the incredible shrinking sarah palin
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Ed, So when the right makes mistakes they are not true Republicans? Trust me
on this....there is plenty of blame on both sides. Until we pull politics out of this mess it will not get solved. Note current posturing from the left, to load with pork is ......well pure BULL. The right sitting on their is hands is almost as bad. So if your guy is for this then we can consider this good scoialism? The cause was greed and stupidity not politics. If you want to go on a witch hunt please keep that in mind. For one who has called me a socialist many times in the past your viewpoints seem surprising. The fact is when people made money on the real estate boom all was good. Greenspan was a genius instead of the pompous ass he really is. What is truly sad is his claim that he didn't see this coming. I certainly believe him. Greenspan was a huge proponent of many of the hybrid mortgages that are part of the problem. To throw people in jail usually you need to prove they broke the law. If this can be done then people should go to jail. The security agencies that rated this crap "A" might be a good place to start. If they can prove they knowingly mis-rated the risk to keep making commissions...... Regarding campaign funding - Neither side represents the people...just whomever gave them the most money. PACs and lobby money are a big problem. As to only voting for 4 people involved in this mess...I would think every person we have all voted into Congress and the White House over the last 15 years is involved in this mess. Lots of politicians sat on their hands when all appeared rosy. Fair Winds, Wally On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Tootle <ekroposki@...> wrote: > > > Comrade Peter: > > My wife wants to know if your wife knows about your Chauvinists Post? She > wants to know why the lady Rhodies are allowing such an overt Chauvinists > to > post without comments. > > Comrade Wallace: > > As to any compromise, I do not vote but for four people involved in this > mess. After having heard that Black lady Representative's comments on tv a > few weeks back, I just begin to understand the problems coming from > California and the National Democratic Party. > > I have pointed out there are those who call themselves who call the |
