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[Shyrell Melara-3]

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I changed my email address and was getting mail till 2 days ago.  Am I still on the list?
(Guess I'll find out shortly...)

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[Marilyn Dalrymple]

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Hi Shyrell,

 

I got your message.

 

Marilyn

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Subject: new email addy

I changed my email address and was getting mail till 2 days ago.  Am I still on the list?
(Guess I'll find out shortly...)

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[Shyrell Melara-3]

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Question to all: Where do you purchase your printer inks from?

It doesn't matter what printer you use. I'm just interested in what company you buy from. I'm getting into printing my own photos now and can foresee myself using a lot of ink in the near future.

Thanks,

Shyrell

[Bob W8IMO]

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Shyrell,

Did you unsubscribe with the old addrees and then subscribe with the new one?

Bob

Shyrell Melara wrote:

I changed my email address and was getting mail till 2 days ago.  Am I still on the list?
(Guess I'll find out shortly...)

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[Frederick H Hecker]

www.costcentral.com had the best prices for Epson 3800 inks last week $43.13/cart + 8.52 fedExGround (8 carts).   No sales tax in NY.

On Jul 1, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Shyrell Melara wrote:

Question to all: Where do you purchase your printer inks from?

It doesn't matter what printer you use. I'm just interested in what company you buy from. I'm getting into printing my own photos now and can foresee myself using a lot of ink in the near future. 

Thanks,

Shyrell

[Bob W8IMO]

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Ignore this, looks like you're getting on the forum OK.

Bob

Bob wrote:

Shyrell,

Did you unsubscribe with the old addrees and then subscribe with the new one?

Bob

Shyrell Melara wrote:

I changed my email address and was getting mail till 2 days ago.  Am I still on the list?
(Guess I'll find out shortly...)

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[Bob W8IMO]

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Shyrell,

After reading about them in Kim Komando's email news I bought ink from InkSell.Com

I bought generic  ink for my four year old Canon i950  since Canon  was a lot more $$$$$.

After  using  most of my order, I bought big to save shipping, my print head went defective. 

The repair tech said that Canon makes their own ink and to not use third party inks. This seemed to  not agree with what Karl shah-jenner  suggested in some off forum messaging we did.

I've been using Canon ink since then and buying it from Staples. 

The question that I've had since using generic ink, I was quite satisfied with it, is was it the ink that killed my print head or the fact that it was over four years old?

If you are planning on printing quantities of the same image you might be better off using a lab, cost wise.  Costco, the one close to my home is well respected by many people,  charges $3  for a  12 X 18  print. 

Bob



Shyrell Melara wrote: 

Question to all: Where do you purchase your printer inks from?

It doesn't matter what printer you use. I'm just interested in what company you buy from. I'm getting into printing my own photos now and can foresee myself using a lot of ink in the near future.

Thanks,

Shyrell

[Emily L. Ferguson-2]

Atlex

http://www.atlex.com
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508-563-6822
New England landscapes, wooden boats and races
http://www.landsedgephoto.com
http://e-and-s.instaproofs.com/

[Emily L. Ferguson-2]

I thought the print heads were in the cartridges in Canon printers.

But maybe that was HP...
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New England landscapes, wooden boats and races
http://www.landsedgephoto.com
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[PhotoRoy6]

Atlex.com    (Atlantic Exchange) usually has the best prices on name brands like Epson, Canon and HP.

 

I buy my generic ink for Epson 1270 from doing a search. I haven't bought any since Epson won the law suit so don't know if it effect the generics.

 

Roy

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It depends on my printer. For my S9000 (which is on it;s last legs) I usually use Office Depot or Fry's. For my LF printer I use IT supplies or for the last set I bought a full set off of Ebay. My LF printer is a Canon W6400 so ink is kinda spendie.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Shyrell Melara
Sent: Jul 1, 2008 12:27 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: photo printer inks

Question to all: Where do you purchase your printer inks from?

It doesn't matter what printer you use. I'm just interested in what company you buy from. I'm getting into printing my own photos now and can foresee myself using a lot of ink in the near future.

Thanks,

Shyrell

Foto/SFX, San Jose, CA 408-835-1184
http://www.aviationphotographers.org/, http://www.fencecheck.com
http://www.myspace.com/fotosfx,
http://www.portfolios.com/profile.ht...=14627.baldwin  

[Bob W8IMO]

My first experience with Canon printers was my BJC-7004 Photo.  The black cartridge had a print head built in.  There were two color "setups", a regular color setup with a print head that takes a color "ink tank" and a photo color print head that takes a photo color "ink tank".  The regular color ink tank has three "outlets" for the ink and the photo color ink tank has six "outlets".

My i950 Photo printer has six ink tanks that go into the print head, Cyan, Photo Cyan, Black, Yellow, Photo Magenta, and Magenta.

I don't know where I got this from but almost $3K for the printer and almost $1K for a full 12 tank replacement!

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/canon-ipf5000.shtml

Bob

Emily L. Ferguson wrote:

I thought the print heads were in the cartridges in Canon printers.

But maybe that was HP...

[karl shah-jenner]

Bob writes:


: Shyrell,
:
: After reading about them in Kim Komando's email news I bought ink from
: InkSell.Com
:
: I bought generic  ink for my four year old Canon i950  since Canon  was
: a lot more $$$$$.
:
: After  using  most of my order, I bought big to save shipping, my print
: head went defective.
:
: The repair tech said that Canon makes their own ink and to not use third
: party inks. This seemed to  not agree with what Karl shah-jenner  
: suggested in some off forum messaging we did.


Canon say they use their own inks, but they (Like Epson/Seiko  and HP) all outsource ink manufacture to specialist ink makers.  

..and yes, I too was informed when training with Canon that telling people to use Canon inks was the party line, but we were also told we were never to tell people that it was the ink that may/may not cause the heads to clog.   rather we were to recommend people only use Canon inks.. suggesting clogging can cause blockages (emphasis on 'can')


: I've been using Canon ink since then and buying it from Staples.
:
: The question that I've had since using generic ink, I was quite
: satisfied with it, is was it the ink that killed my print head or the
: fact that it was over four years old?

Heads are pretty delicate things - and most consumer printers are a lot less robust than commercial ones - but time will kill them eventually.  There was always the debate in early inkjet days whether fixed heads and seperate ink carts was better/worse than heads integral to ink carts.  The HP attitude of changing the head with the cartridge was always more expensive but it meant the printer heads were always fresh therefore the printer was more reliable.  Others took the line that changing the head when it failed was cheaper than changing it every time you changed inks.

Nowadays the latter seems the most acceptable path.

With the Canons, the heads are designed to be user-replaceable - which makes things a lot easier (and cheaper) than the Epson equivalents of the day which required a tech to do the job .. but they will fail at some point.  Four years is pretty good :)

And my testing with various inks was pretty hit and miss.  Some inks went through fine and some clogged pretty early on..  

When you price a head it soes seem very expensive (well, here in Oz at least!) but as I said, changing it when the head fails is still a lot cheaper than changing each individual head&ink cart whenever the ink runs out.

My bcurrent i9950 bulk ink system has proved very reliable and very economical - but I had to cut holes in the printer to integrate it and the fabrication of the bulk carts by the aftermarket manufacturer turned out to be less than perfect - the external green and light magenta tanks leaked badly within 6 months and as the whole tank array was solvent fused so I couldn't get to the individual tanks to make repairs, I ended up sinking the whole 8 tanks in epoxy resin  

:P
 
: If you are planning on printing quantities of the same image you might
: be better off using a lab, cost wise.  Costco, the one close to my home
: is well respected by many people,  charges $3  for a  12 X 18  print.


I'll second that.  Ultimately, lab printed RA4's will cost less and last longer than using a home inkjet - the only real + to using inkjets is the fact that you've got the thing at home and can print when you want.

Add the costs up at the end of the day and you'll not save money, just a little time


As to what inks to use - it's a case of suck it and see.  

if the ink does block the print head you've a few cleaning options.. but if you DO find one that blocks the head (it'll do it pretty quickly) - drop that ink and find another.  You may find Brand X's magenta and light cyan (or whatever) are fine but their black is the problem (it's often the black!!)  - by all means keep using their working clours - just skip their dodgy inks :)

karl

[Shyrell Melara-3]

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O yes. That's how I did it before. Only I subscribe to the new mail first to see if it works. Seems to be working fine now. thanks


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <w8imo@...>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 1:37:49 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: new email addy

Shyrell,

Did you unsubscribe with the old addrees and then subscribe with the new one?

Bob

Shyrell Melara wrote:

I changed my email address and was getting mail till 2 days ago.  Am I still on the list?
(Guess I'll find out shortly...)

from me to me

[karl shah-jenner]

some more interesting stuff for those with blocked inkjet printer heads:

this one is particularly interesting
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=241


and more
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=63


karl

[Shyrell Melara-3]

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I don't think generic ink matters. My experience has been that the printers (ink jet) go bad after a couple years or so. I'm using generic ink now and have gotten some fantastic prints. But I do worry that in time the ink just might gum up the works. I don't know. I was using ClinkInks till they took nearly 6 weeks to deliver my last order, and then some of the tanks were dried up!
:-(
Shyrell
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From: "Bob" <w8imo@...>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 2:10:09 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: photo printer inks

Shyrell,

After reading about them in Kim Komando's email news I bought ink from InkSell.Com

I bought generic  ink for my four year old Canon i950  since Canon  was a lot more $$$$$.

After  using  most of my order, I bought big to save shipping, my print head went defective. 

The repair tech said that Canon makes their own ink and to not use third party inks. This seemed to  not agree with what Karl shah-jenner  suggested in some off forum messaging we did.

I've been using Canon ink since then and buying it from Staples. 

The question that I've had since using generic ink, I was quite satisfied with it, is was it the ink that killed my print head or the fact that it was over four years old?

If you are planning on printing quantities of the same image you might be better off using a lab, cost wise.  Costco, the one close to my home is well respected by many people,  charges $3  for a  12 X 18  print. 

Bob



Shyrell Melara wrote: 

Question to all: Where do you purchase your printer inks from?

It doesn't matter what printer you use. I'm just interested in what company you buy from. I'm getting into printing my own photos now and can foresee myself using a lot of ink in the near future.

Thanks,

Shyrell

[Shyrell Melara-3]

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Thanks everybody. I've bookmarked all the links and will check them out.

Karl, thanks for all the info. It's just like I thought. Shyrell


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From: PhotoRoy6@...
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 2:15:12 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: photo printer inks

Atlex.com    (Atlantic Exchange) usually has the best prices on name brands like Epson, Canon and HP.

 

I buy my generic ink for Epson 1270 from doing a search. I haven't bought any since Epson won the law suit so don't know if it effect the generics.

 

Roy

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I have been using pigment inks for my Epson R1800.  I get them in bulk from Mis Ink and reload the carts when they are empty.  In three years none of my prints have faded.  Mis Inks have a hundred year lifetime rating.  Bulk ink is a lot less expensive than OEM carts, and quality as good or better.

The Echo Store (internet store) sells both pigment and dye based inks which are very inexpensive.  You can find most printer brands there.  I quit using dye based inks when I saw my prints start to fade after a few weeks.

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From: Shyrell Melara
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 4:53 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: photo printer inks

I don't think generic ink matters. My experience has been that the printers (ink jet) go bad after a couple years or so. I'm using generic ink now and have gotten some fantastic prints. But I do worry that in time the ink just might gum up the works. I don't know. I was using ClinkInks till they took nearly 6 weeks to deliver my last order, and then some of the tanks were dried up!
:-(
Shyrell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <w8imo@...>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 2:10:09 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: photo printer inks

Shyrell,

After reading about them in Kim Komando's email news I bought ink from InkSell.Com

I bought generic  ink for my four year old Canon i950  since Canon  was a lot more $$$$$.

After  using  most of my order, I bought big to save shipping, my print head went defective. 

The repair tech said that Canon makes their own ink and to not use third party inks. This seemed to  not agree with what Karl shah-jenner  suggested in some off forum messaging we did.

I've been using Canon ink since then and buying it from Staples. 

The question that I've had since using generic ink, I was quite satisfied with it, is was it the ink that killed my print head or the fact that it was over four years old?

If you are planning on printing quantities of the same image you might be better off using a lab, cost wise.  Costco, the one close to my home is well respected by many people,  charges $3  for a  12 X 18  print. 

Bob



Shyrell Melara wrote: 

Question to all: Where do you purchase your printer inks from?

It doesn't matter what printer you use. I'm just interested in what company you buy from. I'm getting into printing my own photos now and can foresee myself using a lot of ink in the near future.

Thanks,

Shyrell