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by Miguel Negrao-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi

Is there a way to do linear algebra in sc, specifically matrix
multiplication (matrix with matrix, matrix with vector,etc) ?

thanks
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Re: matrix math

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In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
might be worth looking into.

~luke

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Miguel Negrao
<miguel.negrao@...> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Is there a way to do linear algebra in sc, specifically matrix
> multiplication (matrix with matrix, matrix with vector,etc) ?
>
> thanks
> Miguel Negrão
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Re: matrix math

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Yes, I haven't used that class either but you may find it useful.

In fact matrix multiplication can be written fairly compactly in plain SC:

 a = [[1, 0, 2], [-1, 3, 1]];
 b = [[3,1], [2,1], [1,0]];

 a.collect{|row| (row * b).sum }

Dan

2008/5/12 Luke Selden <lselden@...>:

> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>  might be worth looking into.
>
>  ~luke
>
>
>
>  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Miguel Negrao
>  <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Is there a way to do linear algebra in sc, specifically matrix
>  > multiplication (matrix with matrix, matrix with vector,etc) ?
>  >
>  > thanks
>  > Miguel Negrão
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Re: matrix math

by Miguel Negrao-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks, that's simpler than the code i was working on. Maybe something
like this could be added to Array ?

//this assumes array elements are rows of a matrix
+ Array {

   mult { |matrix|

   if( this.flop.size == matrix.size)
      { ^ this.collect{|row| (row * matrix).sum } }
      { "Error: matrix dimensions mismatch".postln;
       ^nil
      }
   
   }
}

Miguel

Dan Stowell escreveu:

> Yes, I haven't used that class either but you may find it useful.
>
> In fact matrix multiplication can be written fairly compactly in plain SC:
>
>  a = [[1, 0, 2], [-1, 3, 1]];
>  b = [[3,1], [2,1], [1,0]];
>
>  a.collect{|row| (row * b).sum }
>
> Dan
>
> 2008/5/12 Luke Selden <lselden@...>:
>> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>>  might be worth looking into.
>>
>>  ~luke
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Miguel Negrao
>>  <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>>  > Hi
>>  >
>>  > Is there a way to do linear algebra in sc, specifically matrix
>>  > multiplication (matrix with matrix, matrix with vector,etc) ?
>>  >
>>  > thanks
>>  > Miguel Negrão
>>  > _______________________________________________
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Re: matrix math

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My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
etc, makes more sense there.

By the way, instead of "if( this.flop.size == matrix.size)" use "if(
this[0].size == matrix.size)". Why? Because .flop is pretty heavy duty
for big matrices, so worth avoiding...

Dan


2008/5/12 Miguel Negrao <miguel.negrao@...>:

> Thanks, that's simpler than the code i was working on. Maybe something
>  like this could be added to Array ?
>
>  //this assumes array elements are rows of a matrix
>  + Array {
>
>    mult { |matrix|
>
>    if( this.flop.size == matrix.size)
>         { ^ this.collect{|row| (row * matrix).sum } }
>         { "Error: matrix dimensions mismatch".postln;
>           ^nil
>         }
>
>    }
>  }
>
>  Miguel
>
>  Dan Stowell escreveu:
>
>
> > Yes, I haven't used that class either but you may find it useful.
>  >
>  > In fact matrix multiplication can be written fairly compactly in plain SC:
>  >
>  >  a = [[1, 0, 2], [-1, 3, 1]];
>  >  b = [[3,1], [2,1], [1,0]];
>  >
>  >  a.collect{|row| (row * b).sum }
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  > 2008/5/12 Luke Selden <lselden@...>:
>  >> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>  >>  might be worth looking into.
>  >>
>  >>  ~luke
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Miguel Negrao
>  >>  <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>  >>  > Hi
>  >>  >
>  >>  > Is there a way to do linear algebra in sc, specifically matrix
>  >>  > multiplication (matrix with matrix, matrix with vector,etc) ?
>  >>  >
>  >>  > thanks
>  >>  > Miguel Negrão
>  >>  > _______________________________________________
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Re: matrix math

by Miguel Negrao-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Dan Stowell escreveu:
> My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
> the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
> of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
> etc, makes more sense there.

Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.
>
> By the way, instead of "if( this.flop.size == matrix.size)" use "if(
> this[0].size == matrix.size)". Why? Because .flop is pretty heavy duty
> for big matrices, so worth avoiding...
>
> Dan

always learning ;-)

Miguel

>
> 2008/5/12 Miguel Negrao <miguel.negrao@...>:
>> Thanks, that's simpler than the code i was working on. Maybe something
>>  like this could be added to Array ?
>>
>>  //this assumes array elements are rows of a matrix
>>  + Array {
>>
>>    mult { |matrix|
>>
>>    if( this.flop.size == matrix.size)
>>         { ^ this.collect{|row| (row * matrix).sum } }
>>         { "Error: matrix dimensions mismatch".postln;
>>           ^nil
>>         }
>>
>>    }
>>  }
>>
>>  Miguel
>>
>>  Dan Stowell escreveu:
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I haven't used that class either but you may find it useful.
>>  >
>>  > In fact matrix multiplication can be written fairly compactly in plain SC:
>>  >
>>  >  a = [[1, 0, 2], [-1, 3, 1]];
>>  >  b = [[3,1], [2,1], [1,0]];
>>  >
>>  >  a.collect{|row| (row * b).sum }
>>  >
>>  > Dan
>>  >
>>  > 2008/5/12 Luke Selden <lselden@...>:
>>  >> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>>  >>  might be worth looking into.
>>  >>
>>  >>  ~luke
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Miguel Negrao
>>  >>  <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>>  >>  > Hi
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Is there a way to do linear algebra in sc, specifically matrix
>>  >>  > multiplication (matrix with matrix, matrix with vector,etc) ?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > thanks
>>  >>  > Miguel Negrão
>>  >>  > _______________________________________________
>>  >>  > sc-users mailing list
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Re: matrix math

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2008/5/12 Miguel Negrao <miguel.negrao@...>:
> Dan Stowell escreveu:
>
> > My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
>  > the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
>  > of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
>  > etc, makes more sense there.
>
>  Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
>  should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.

As Luke said, the MathLib quark provides a Matrix class. Read the
"Quarks" helpfile if you're not familiar with quarks - SC's way to
manage language extensions.

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Re: matrix math

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On Monday 12 May 2008 15:35:05 Miguel Negrao wrote:
> Dan Stowell escreveu:
> > My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
> > the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
> > of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
> > etc, makes more sense there.
>
> Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
> should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.

On Monday 12 May 2008 11:50:51 Luke Selden wrote:
> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
> might be worth looking into.

sincerely,
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Re: matrix math

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nescivi escreveu:

> On Monday 12 May 2008 15:35:05 Miguel Negrao wrote:
>> Dan Stowell escreveu:
>>> My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
>>> the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
>>> of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
>>> etc, makes more sense there.
>> Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
>> should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.
>
> On Monday 12 May 2008 11:50:51 Luke Selden wrote:
>> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>> might be worth looking into.
>
> sincerely,
> Marije
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When i try to install the MathLib by the quarks.gui i have problem,
nothing is present in the MathLib folder. I tryed uninstalling and
installing again with no luck... any ideia on how to solve this ?

Miguel
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Re: matrix math

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If you've never used Quarks before you probably need to checkout the
Quarks.  I'm not at supercollider at the moment but in the Quarks
helpfile I think it has the line

Quarks.checkoutAll

run that and a terminal window should pop up asking you to accept a
svn certificate (sp?) -- select "P" and then it will download all the
quarks for you.

hope that helps-
~luke

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Miguel Negrao
<miguel.negrao@...> wrote:

> nescivi escreveu:
>> On Monday 12 May 2008 15:35:05 Miguel Negrao wrote:
>>> Dan Stowell escreveu:
>>>> My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
>>>> the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
>>>> of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
>>>> etc, makes more sense there.
>>> Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
>>> should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.
>>
>> On Monday 12 May 2008 11:50:51 Luke Selden wrote:
>>> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>>> might be worth looking into.
>>
>> sincerely,
>> Marije
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>
> When i try to install the MathLib by the quarks.gui i have problem,
> nothing is present in the MathLib folder. I tryed uninstalling and
> installing again with no luck... any ideia on how to solve this ?
>
> Miguel
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Re: matrix math

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I have some quarks instaled, i think I alread did that svn certificate
thing. When i do the command you mentioned i get:

--------------------------------------------------------------

? SuperCollider Quarks: accessing remote repository.

? If this is the first time, you may be asked to accept a
? security certificate. Please do so!

? The command being run is:
export LANG='' ;  /usr/bin/svn co
https://quarks.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/quarks/ 
/Users/miguelnegrao/Library/Application\ Support/SuperCollider/quarks/ 2>&1

--------------------------------------------------------------
export LANG=
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/quarks'
svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/quarks': could not connect to server
(https://quarks.svn.sourceforge.net)
logout



Luke Selden escreveu:

> If you've never used Quarks before you probably need to checkout the
> Quarks.  I'm not at supercollider at the moment but in the Quarks
> helpfile I think it has the line
>
> Quarks.checkoutAll
>
> run that and a terminal window should pop up asking you to accept a
> svn certificate (sp?) -- select "P" and then it will download all the
> quarks for you.
>
> hope that helps-
> ~luke
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Miguel Negrao
> <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>> nescivi escreveu:
>>> On Monday 12 May 2008 15:35:05 Miguel Negrao wrote:
>>>> Dan Stowell escreveu:
>>>>> My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
>>>>> the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
>>>>> of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
>>>>> etc, makes more sense there.
>>>> Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
>>>> should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.
>>> On Monday 12 May 2008 11:50:51 Luke Selden wrote:
>>>> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>>>> might be worth looking into.
>>> sincerely,
>>> Marije
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sc-users mailing list
>>> sc-users@...
>>> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users
>>>
>>>
>> When i try to install the MathLib by the quarks.gui i have problem,
>> nothing is present in the MathLib folder. I tryed uninstalling and
>> installing again with no luck... any ideia on how to solve this ?
>>
>> Miguel
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Re: matrix math

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I think there is a temporary outage of the SVN service. I've submitted
a support request to sf.net - hopefully it will be back online soon.

Dan

2008/5/12 Miguel Negrao <miguel.negrao@...>:

> I have some quarks instaled, i think I alread did that svn certificate
>  thing. When i do the command you mentioned i get:
>
>  --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  ? SuperCollider Quarks: accessing remote repository.
>
>  ? If this is the first time, you may be asked to accept a
>  ? security certificate. Please do so!
>
>  ? The command being run is:
>  export LANG='' ;  /usr/bin/svn co
>  https://quarks.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/quarks/
>  /Users/miguelnegrao/Library/Application\ Support/SuperCollider/quarks/ 2>&1
>
>  --------------------------------------------------------------
>  export LANG=
>  svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/quarks'
>  svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/quarks': could not connect to server
>  (https://quarks.svn.sourceforge.net)
>  logout
>
>
>
>  Luke Selden escreveu:
>
>
> > If you've never used Quarks before you probably need to checkout the
>  > Quarks.  I'm not at supercollider at the moment but in the Quarks
>  > helpfile I think it has the line
>  >
>  > Quarks.checkoutAll
>  >
>  > run that and a terminal window should pop up asking you to accept a
>  > svn certificate (sp?) -- select "P" and then it will download all the
>  > quarks for you.
>  >
>  > hope that helps-
>  > ~luke
>  >
>  > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Miguel Negrao
>  > <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>  >> nescivi escreveu:
>  >>> On Monday 12 May 2008 15:35:05 Miguel Negrao wrote:
>  >>>> Dan Stowell escreveu:
>  >>>>> My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
>  >>>>> the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
>  >>>>> of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
>  >>>>> etc, makes more sense there.
>  >>>> Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
>  >>>> should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.
>  >>> On Monday 12 May 2008 11:50:51 Luke Selden wrote:
>  >>>> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>  >>>> might be worth looking into.
>  >>> sincerely,
>  >>> Marije
>  >>> _______________________________________________
>  >>> sc-users mailing list
>  >>> sc-users@...
>  >>> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> When i try to install the MathLib by the quarks.gui i have problem,
>  >> nothing is present in the MathLib folder. I tryed uninstalling and
>  >> installing again with no luck... any ideia on how to solve this ?
>  >>
>  >> Miguel
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Re: matrix math

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It seems to be back online now - try again!

2008/5/12 Dan Stowell <danstowell@...>:

> I think there is a temporary outage of the SVN service. I've submitted
>  a support request to sf.net - hopefully it will be back online soon.
>
>  Dan
>
>  2008/5/12 Miguel Negrao <miguel.negrao@...>:
>
>
> > I have some quarks instaled, i think I alread did that svn certificate
>  >  thing. When i do the command you mentioned i get:
>  >
>  >  --------------------------------------------------------------
>  >
>  >  ? SuperCollider Quarks: accessing remote repository.
>  >
>  >  ? If this is the first time, you may be asked to accept a
>  >  ? security certificate. Please do so!
>  >
>  >  ? The command being run is:
>  >  export LANG='' ;  /usr/bin/svn co
>  >  https://quarks.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/quarks/
>  >  /Users/miguelnegrao/Library/Application\ Support/SuperCollider/quarks/ 2>&1
>  >
>  >  --------------------------------------------------------------
>  >  export LANG=
>  >  svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnroot/quarks'
>  >  svn: PROPFIND of '/svnroot/quarks': could not connect to server
>  >  (https://quarks.svn.sourceforge.net)
>  >  logout
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Luke Selden escreveu:
>  >
>  >
>  > > If you've never used Quarks before you probably need to checkout the
>  >  > Quarks.  I'm not at supercollider at the moment but in the Quarks
>  >  > helpfile I think it has the line
>  >  >
>  >  > Quarks.checkoutAll
>  >  >
>  >  > run that and a terminal window should pop up asking you to accept a
>  >  > svn certificate (sp?) -- select "P" and then it will download all the
>  >  > quarks for you.
>  >  >
>  >  > hope that helps-
>  >  > ~luke
>  >  >
>  >  > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Miguel Negrao
>  >  > <miguel.negrao@...> wrote:
>  >  >> nescivi escreveu:
>  >  >>> On Monday 12 May 2008 15:35:05 Miguel Negrao wrote:
>  >  >>>> Dan Stowell escreveu:
>  >  >>>>> My personal opinion (just 2p worth) is that it's not appropriate for
>  >  >>>>> the core Array class since it's only applicable to a particular sort
>  >  >>>>> of array. The Matrix class add-on does include matrix multiplication
>  >  >>>>> etc, makes more sense there.
>  >  >>>> Is there a Matrix class ? I didn't find it... or are you suggesting one
>  >  >>>> should be made ? That would definetelly be usefull.
>  >  >>> On Monday 12 May 2008 11:50:51 Luke Selden wrote:
>  >  >>>> In the MathLib Quark there's a Matrix class that I haven't used but
>  >  >>>> might be worth looking into.
>  >  >>> sincerely,
>  >  >>> Marije
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>  >  >> When i try to install the MathLib by the quarks.gui i have problem,
>  >  >> nothing is present in the MathLib folder. I tryed uninstalling and
>  >  >> installing again with no luck... any ideia on how to solve this ?
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>  >  >> Miguel
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