make my bassguitar sound good

[Schoap D]

Hi,

I'm using my bassguitar without an amp. I use a dmp 3 preamp and my
maudio audiophile 24/96. How can I make my bassguitar sounds good this
way? Is there software which can make the sound better and how?

Thanks in advance,

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[porl sheean]

depends on what sort of bass sound you want. i would suggest playing
around with ladspa plugins such as the caps series. the most common
things you would want to do with a bass guitar sound are eq,
compressor/limiter and possibly overdrive/amp sim.

hope this helps.

porl

ps. maybe you could upload a sample of your playing somewhere and a
description of what sort of sound you are after and people could give
you examples of what ladspa plugins and settings they would use to get
it? just an idea.

2008/7/20 schoappied <schoappied@...>:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using my bassguitar without an amp. I use a dmp 3 preamp and my
> maudio audiophile 24/96. How can I make my bassguitar sounds good this
> way? Is there software which can make the sound better and how?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:13 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using my bassguitar without an amp. I use a dmp 3 preamp and my
> maudio audiophile 24/96. How can I make my bassguitar sounds good this
> way? Is there software which can make the sound better and how?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>

What bass are you playing?
How are you monitoring?
What sound are you looking for?

No matter how hard I try I cannot make my Ibanez sound like Chris
Squire's Rickenbacker. However it can sound like a solid rock bass.

All depends on what you are trying to do...

- Mark
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[Schoap D]

porl sheean wrote:

> common things you would want to do with a bass guitar sound are eq,
> compressor/limiter and possibly overdrive/amp sim.
>
> hope this helps.
>
> porl
>
> ps. maybe you could upload a sample of your playing somewhere and a
> description of what sort of sound you are after and people could give
> you examples of what ladspa plugins and settings they would use to get
> it? just an idea.
>
> 2

Thanks, I'll try eq, compressor/limiter. I don't think I want to put
effects on it.

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[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:09 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:

> porl sheean wrote:
>> common things you would want to do with a bass guitar sound are eq,
>> compressor/limiter and possibly overdrive/amp sim.
>>
>> hope this helps.
>>
>> porl
>>
>> ps. maybe you could upload a sample of your playing somewhere and a
>> description of what sort of sound you are after and people could give
>> you examples of what ladspa plugins and settings they would use to get
>> it? just an idea.
>>
>> 2
> Thanks, I'll try eq, compressor/limiter. I don't think I want to put
> effects on it.
>

Mostly it's just me, and I'm not a bass player but I own two, but to
me it's mostly about gentle EQ. I find I cannot change the real nature
of the instrument itself but rather can just move it a bit in the
direction I want it to go.

Just a thought.

- Mark
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[Brett McCoy-2]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@...> wrote:

> Mostly it's just me, and I'm not a bass player but I own two, but to
> me it's mostly about gentle EQ. I find I cannot change the real nature
> of the instrument itself but rather can just move it a bit in the
> direction I want it to go.

When I record bass, I go through a tube pre-amp (like one of the ART
ones) and then direct into the board (in my case, a Hammerfall RME
interface). A tiny bit of EQ or compression helps also, although the
tube pre-amp add some nice warm tube compression and even a tad bit of
overdrive. A little bit of flange/phase shift or chorus can add a
little character to the tone also, as long as it isn't overdone. But
the latter can be added in post, so you can adjust to taste without
ruining the original (nothing worse than getting a perfect take only
to find out you had too much flange or something that can't be removed
later).

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[Schoap D]

Brett McCoy wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@...> wrote:
>
>  
>> Mostly it's just me, and I'm not a bass player but I own two, but to
>> me it's mostly about gentle EQ. I find I cannot change the real nature
>> of the instrument itself but rather can just move it a bit in the
>> direction I want it to go.
>>    
>
> A tiny bit of EQ or compression helps also, although the
> tube pre-amp add some nice warm tube compression and even a tad bit of
> overdrive. A little bit of flange/phase shift or chorus can add a
> little character to the tone also,

Thanks guys. I also found some racks for jack-rack, I think I will try
those too. And maybe rakarrack has also bass options/ banks?
http://offog.org/stuff/racks/


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[aurelien-7]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 08:15:06AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote :

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:09 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:
> > porl sheean wrote:
> >> common things you would want to do with a bass guitar sound are eq,
> >> compressor/limiter and possibly overdrive/amp sim.
> >>
> >> hope this helps.
> >>
> >> porl
> >>
> >> ps. maybe you could upload a sample of your playing somewhere and a
> >> description of what sort of sound you are after and people could give
> >> you examples of what ladspa plugins and settings they would use to get
> >> it? just an idea.
> >>
> >> 2
> > Thanks, I'll try eq, compressor/limiter. I don't think I want to put
> > effects on it.
> >
>
> Mostly it's just me, and I'm not a bass player but I own two, but to
> me it's mostly about gentle EQ. I find I cannot change the real nature
> of the instrument itself but rather can just move it a bit in the
> direction I want it to go.
>

You're quite right. Bass sound is very much a matter of fingers (or
pickups) playing. As every other instruments, actually, but in "current
music", I think it's really marked.

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[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Aurelien <orl@...> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 08:15:06AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote :
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:09 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:
>> > porl sheean wrote:
>> >> common things you would want to do with a bass guitar sound are eq,
>> >> compressor/limiter and possibly overdrive/amp sim.
>> >>
>> >> hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> porl
>> >>
>> >> ps. maybe you could upload a sample of your playing somewhere and a
>> >> description of what sort of sound you are after and people could give
>> >> you examples of what ladspa plugins and settings they would use to get
>> >> it? just an idea.
>> >>
>> >> 2
>> > Thanks, I'll try eq, compressor/limiter. I don't think I want to put
>> > effects on it.
>> >
>>
>> Mostly it's just me, and I'm not a bass player but I own two, but to
>> me it's mostly about gentle EQ. I find I cannot change the real nature
>> of the instrument itself but rather can just move it a bit in the
>> direction I want it to go.
>>
>
> You're quite right. Bass sound is very much a matter of fingers (or
> pickups) playing. As every other instruments, actually, but in "current
> music", I think it's really marked.
>

And strings, strings, strings. Huge difference on a bass. I love
putting a new set of strings on a standard guitar. We all know that
pleasure. But on a bass it seems it's really important to find the
right brand of strings to bring out the best sound the bass has to
offer. I'm lucky to live near a great guitar shop where I could get
some good advice. They were nice even though my two instruments are by
most measures not so good. However they were good and pointed me
toward a couple of different options that worked out well. I don't use
the same strings on each instrument and personally will never
recommend bass strings at all as I think the right choice depends too
much on the instrument.

- Mark
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[aurelien-7]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 10:14:53AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote :

> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Aurelien <orl@...> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 08:15:06AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote :
> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:09 AM, schoappied <schoappied@...> wrote:
> >> > porl sheean wrote:
> >> >> common things you would want to do with a bass guitar sound are eq,
> >> >> compressor/limiter and possibly overdrive/amp sim.
> >> >>
> >> >> hope this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> porl
> >> >>
> >> >> ps. maybe you could upload a sample of your playing somewhere and a
> >> >> description of what sort of sound you are after and people could give
> >> >> you examples of what ladspa plugins and settings they would use to get
> >> >> it? just an idea.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2
> >> > Thanks, I'll try eq, compressor/limiter. I don't think I want to put
> >> > effects on it.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Mostly it's just me, and I'm not a bass player but I own two, but to
> >> me it's mostly about gentle EQ. I find I cannot change the real nature
> >> of the instrument itself but rather can just move it a bit in the
> >> direction I want it to go.
> >>
> >
> > You're quite right. Bass sound is very much a matter of fingers (or
> > pickups) playing. As every other instruments, actually, but in "current
> > music", I think it's really marked.
> >
>
> And strings, strings, strings. Huge difference on a bass. I love
> putting a new set of strings on a standard guitar. We all know that
> pleasure. But on a bass it seems it's really important to find the
> right brand of strings to bring out the best sound the bass has to
> offer. I'm lucky to live near a great guitar shop where I could get
> some good advice. They were nice even though my two instruments are by
> most measures not so good. However they were good and pointed me
> toward a couple of different options that worked out well. I don't use
> the same strings on each instrument and personally will never
> recommend bass strings at all as I think the right choice depends too
> much on the instrument.
>

I play on an unique bass model, which have been designed and built by
Christophe Leduc. This guy is awesome, and I didn't have to look for
strings, he puts in La Bella Super Steps, which are the best strings
ever (as far as I know), and it just sounds so magical. By the way
strings are very good mean not be on ease with the instrument, if
they're not well chosen. So, once again, if you're note on ease, you
won't produce a good sound.

> - Mark
>

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