html//blogging

[Matt Price-3]

hi folks,

i've just discovered tomboy-blogposter (

http://flukkost.nu/blog/tomboyblogposter/ ) which i'm really liking a
lot.  blog postings are like notes, and now that there are notebooks to
store them in tomboy is an obvious place to write them in.  the only
issue is that blogs really need html links in them, because you're
often referring to stuff from the web.  am i wrong in thinking that
tomboy doesn't allow 'hidden' html links in text? that is, can i write
here the way i might in an html document?  if not, would it be
desirable or distracting to have such a feature? 'cause for me, right
now, it'd be great to have.

thanks much,

matt

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[Sandy Armstrong]

On 4/29/08, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:

>
>  i've just discovered tomboy-blogposter ( http://flukkost.nu/blog/tomboyblogposter/ ) which i'm really liking a
> lot.  blog postings are like notes, and now that there are notebooks to
> store them in tomboy is an obvious place to write them in.  the only
> issue is that blogs really need html links in them, because you're
> often referring to stuff from the web.  am i wrong in thinking that
> tomboy doesn't allow 'hidden' html links in text? that is, can i write
> here the way i might in an html document?  if not, would it be
> desirable or distracting to have such a feature? 'cause for me, right
> now, it'd be great to have.

Currently there is no way to do this from Tomboy, but somebody could
write an addin to do it pretty easily (like how the bugzilla addin
works).  We are thinking about adding this functionality to Tomboy in
the future.

Sandy
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[Matt Price-3]

On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 22:32 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:

> On 4/29/08, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:
> >
> >  i've just discovered tomboy-blogposter ( http://flukkost.nu/blog/tomboyblogposter/ ) which i'm really liking a
> > lot.  blog postings are like notes, and now that there are notebooks to
> > store them in tomboy is an obvious place to write them in.  the only
> > issue is that blogs really need html links in them, because you're
> > often referring to stuff from the web.  am i wrong in thinking that
> > tomboy doesn't allow 'hidden' html links in text? that is, can i write
> > here the way i might in an html document?  if not, would it be
> > desirable or distracting to have such a feature? 'cause for me, right
> > now, it'd be great to have.
>
> Currently there is no way to do this from Tomboy, but somebody could
> write an addin to do it pretty easily (like how the bugzilla addin
> works).  We are thinking about adding this functionality to Tomboy in
> the future.
>

hi sandy,

don't have much time & also don't read c# (ok, it might be time to learn
i guess) but had a quick look at the xml for a note.  comparing a
bugzilla link & a dragged-in html link:

<link:bugzilla
uri="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331529">331529</link:bugzilla>
<link:url>http://www.nytimes.com/</link:url>

i see that the link:url entity doesn't have a uri attribute.  i tried
editing the note manually to add such an attribute and only succeeded in
breaking the link.  so my question:  would the best thing to do be to
extend the definition of link:url or add another link:xxx (link:web?)
element as is done in the bugzilla addin?  I guess i would have expected
these elements to be defined in xml documents but it seems they aren't .
will try to understnad the code better.  

once i learn to read these files it doesn't look like this will be so
difficult.  then i guess i'll just extend tomboy-blogposter to handle
the links properly...  

hopefully i'll have time to do it soon.
matt

ps any recommendations for mono tutorials?  



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[Alex Graveley]

I think you should make a new <link:href> or <link:a> tag that mimics
the <link:bug> approach of using an attribute to code the URI.  You'll
need to come up with some cleverness to actually edit the link in
these tags, and to create a new link from e.g. selected text.  For
editing, a right-click menu entry to 'Edit Link' which pops up a
dialog is probably fine for now... live editing of url+text seems
pretty difficult to find an intuitive UI for, though I'd love to hear
some ideas.

-Alex

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 22:32 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
>  > On 4/29/08, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >  i've just discovered tomboy-blogposter ( http://flukkost.nu/blog/tomboyblogposter/ ) which i'm really liking a
>  > > lot.  blog postings are like notes, and now that there are notebooks to
>  > > store them in tomboy is an obvious place to write them in.  the only
>  > > issue is that blogs really need html links in them, because you're
>  > > often referring to stuff from the web.  am i wrong in thinking that
>  > > tomboy doesn't allow 'hidden' html links in text? that is, can i write
>  > > here the way i might in an html document?  if not, would it be
>  > > desirable or distracting to have such a feature? 'cause for me, right
>  > > now, it'd be great to have.
>  >
>  > Currently there is no way to do this from Tomboy, but somebody could
>  > write an addin to do it pretty easily (like how the bugzilla addin
>  > works).  We are thinking about adding this functionality to Tomboy in
>  > the future.
>  >
>  hi sandy,
>
>  don't have much time & also don't read c# (ok, it might be time to learn
>  i guess) but had a quick look at the xml for a note.  comparing a
>  bugzilla link & a dragged-in html link:
>
>  <link:bugzilla
>  uri="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331529">331529</link:bugzilla>
>  <link:url>http://www.nytimes.com/</link:url>
>
>  i see that the link:url entity doesn't have a uri attribute.  i tried
>  editing the note manually to add such an attribute and only succeeded in
>  breaking the link.  so my question:  would the best thing to do be to
>  extend the definition of link:url or add another link:xxx (link:web?)
>  element as is done in the bugzilla addin?  I guess i would have expected
>  these elements to be defined in xml documents but it seems they aren't .
>  will try to understnad the code better.
>
>  once i learn to read these files it doesn't look like this will be so
>  difficult.  then i guess i'll just extend tomboy-blogposter to handle
>  the links properly...
>
>  hopefully i'll have time to do it soon.
>  matt
>
>  ps any recommendations for mono tutorials?
>
>
>
>  > Sandy
>  --
>
> Matt Price
>  matt.price@...
>
>
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[Matt Price-3]

On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 10:58 -0700, Alex Graveley wrote:
> I think you should make a new <link:href> or <link:a> tag that mimics
> the <link:bug> approach of using an attribute to code the URI.  You'll
> need to come up with some cleverness to actually edit the link in
> these tags, and to create a new link from e.g. selected text.  For
> editing, a right-click menu entry to 'Edit Link' which pops up a
> dialog is probably fine for now... live editing of url+text seems
> pretty difficult to find an intuitive UI for, though I'd love to hear
> some ideas.
>
don't have ideas about the live editing, but would also love to be able
to highlight some text and, cay, ctrl-shift-l or something to add the
link.  that makes the whole process a little smoother and more organic.

anyway, thx for the ideas...

matt

> -Alex
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 22:32 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> >  > On 4/29/08, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > >  i've just discovered tomboy-blogposter ( http://flukkost.nu/blog/tomboyblogposter/ ) which i'm really liking a
> >  > > lot.  blog postings are like notes, and now that there are notebooks to
> >  > > store them in tomboy is an obvious place to write them in.  the only
> >  > > issue is that blogs really need html links in them, because you're
> >  > > often referring to stuff from the web.  am i wrong in thinking that
> >  > > tomboy doesn't allow 'hidden' html links in text? that is, can i write
> >  > > here the way i might in an html document?  if not, would it be
> >  > > desirable or distracting to have such a feature? 'cause for me, right
> >  > > now, it'd be great to have.
> >  >
> >  > Currently there is no way to do this from Tomboy, but somebody could
> >  > write an addin to do it pretty easily (like how the bugzilla addin
> >  > works).  We are thinking about adding this functionality to Tomboy in
> >  > the future.
> >  >
> >  hi sandy,
> >
> >  don't have much time & also don't read c# (ok, it might be time to learn
> >  i guess) but had a quick look at the xml for a note.  comparing a
> >  bugzilla link & a dragged-in html link:
> >
> >  <link:bugzilla
> >  uri="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331529">331529</link:bugzilla>
> >  <link:url>http://www.nytimes.com/</link:url>
> >
> >  i see that the link:url entity doesn't have a uri attribute.  i tried
> >  editing the note manually to add such an attribute and only succeeded in
> >  breaking the link.  so my question:  would the best thing to do be to
> >  extend the definition of link:url or add another link:xxx (link:web?)
> >  element as is done in the bugzilla addin?  I guess i would have expected
> >  these elements to be defined in xml documents but it seems they aren't .
> >  will try to understnad the code better.
> >
> >  once i learn to read these files it doesn't look like this will be so
> >  difficult.  then i guess i'll just extend tomboy-blogposter to handle
> >  the links properly...
> >
> >  hopefully i'll have time to do it soon.
> >  matt
> >
> >  ps any recommendations for mono tutorials?
> >
> >
> >
> >  > Sandy
> >  --
> >
> > Matt Price
> >  matt.price@...
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >  Tomboy-list@...
> >  http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com
> >

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[Matt Price-3]

On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 22:32 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:

> On 4/29/08, Matt Price <matt.price@...> wrote:
> >
> >  i've just discovered tomboy-blogposter ( http://flukkost.nu/blog/tomboyblogposter/ ) which i'm really liking a
> > lot.  blog postings are like notes, and now that there are notebooks to
> > store them in tomboy is an obvious place to write them in.  the only
> > issue is that blogs really need html links in them, because you're
> > often referring to stuff from the web.  am i wrong in thinking that
> > tomboy doesn't allow 'hidden' html links in text? that is, can i write
> > here the way i might in an html document?  if not, would it be
> > desirable or distracting to have such a feature? 'cause for me, right
> > now, it'd be great to have.
>
> Currently there is no way to do this from Tomboy, but somebody could
> write an addin to do it pretty easily (like how the bugzilla addin
> works).  We are thinking about adding this functionality to Tomboy in
> the future.
>
> Sandy

so finally trying to understand the Bugzilla plugin code a little
better.  if i understand it correctly, the bugzilla plugin works
exclusively through drag and drop -- so, for instance, if you paste a
bugzilla url in to a note, you get an ordinary link with no special
bugzilla properties.  the <link:href> tag i am using would not work by
dragging, but by pasting a url somewhere.  is there some obvious code in
the tomboy source tree (or on the web somewhere) that shows how to
acquire the clipoard data and add it to the note?  i'm imagining that,
instead of this code in BugzillaNoteAddin.cs:



>
> void DropUriList (Gtk.DragDataReceivedArgs args)
> {
> if (args.SelectionData.Length > 0) {
> string uriString = Encoding.UTF8.GetString (args.SelectionData.Data);
>
> string bugIdGroup = "bugid";
> string regexString =
>        @"show_bug\.cgi\?(\S+\&){0,1}id=(?<" + bugIdGroup + @">\d{5,})";
>
> Match match = Regex.Match (uriString, regexString);
> if (match.Success) {
> int bugId = int.Parse (match.Groups [bugIdGroup].Value);
> if (InsertBugzilla (args.X, args.Y, uriString, bugId)) {
> Gtk.Drag.Finish (args.Context, true, false, args.Time);
> g_signal_stop_emission_by_name(Window.Editor.Handle,
>                               "drag_data_received");
> }
> }
> }
> }

i want something more like:
void PasteUriList (Gtk.ClipboardDataRecievedArgs args)
{
string uriString = Encoding.UTF8.GetString (args.SelectionData.Data);
string highlightedText = Gtk.HighlightedText.value ;  
InsertHref (uriString, highlightedText ) ;
}

while InsertHref would, i guess, create an xml link:href object, with
value highightedText and attribute uri, and replace the highlighted text
with that object.  this is pretty simple, obviously, but it feels harder
b/c i have never tried c# before (or even c), and also b/c i don't have
any feel for the available gtk/tomboy methods.  

anyway6, any comments or help would be appreciated.  thanks!
matt







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