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by nonprivate :: Rate this Message:

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hi yo, did anyone see this?
http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.de.html

it's flash controlling some java audio thing, apparently. it's pretty
clever. i also found some other java audio demos that are quite impressive:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/jass/

what's the feasability of making a supercollider server internet plugin?
i wouldn't have a clue, but i thought it was worth suggesting, and i
think it would increase sc usage too, as it would give a really good
reason for people to get into it.
i'm starting to investigate processing. although it's a bit daunting
being at the start of learning another language, albeit a nice high
level one, it's a big incentive that "sketches" can be quickly exported
to web usable applets.
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Re: hobnox

by Dan Stowell :: Rate this Message:

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Check it:
http://space.k-hornz.de/software/scplug

Not sure how active it is at the moment. I rilly rilly wish I had time
and knowledge to contribute to it, because I too am infatuated with
the idea of scsynth web-browser plugin. It would be amazing in many,
many ways.

Dan


2008/5/15 nonprivate <nonprivate@...>:

> hi yo, did anyone see this?
> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.de.html
>
> it's flash controlling some java audio thing, apparently. it's pretty
> clever. i also found some other java audio demos that are quite impressive:
> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/jass/
>
> what's the feasability of making a supercollider server internet plugin?
>
> i wouldn't have a clue, but i thought it was worth suggesting, and i
> think it would increase sc usage too, as it would give a really good
> reason for people to get into it.
>
> i'm starting to investigate processing. although it's a bit daunting
> being at the start of learning another language, albeit a nice high
> level one, it's a big incentive that "sketches" can be quickly exported
> to web usable applets.
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Re: hobnox

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uh is this old news?
yeah the possibilities are quite large. this hobnox thing isn't some
stupid toy, despite its friendly appearance. it can't be far away that
you could just log into a website to make tracks, you wouldn't need the
program itself and you could store the data remotely.
and maybe the new income model for music software will be paying 10 quid
a month for access and data storage. interesting times.

Dan Stowell wrote:

> Check it:
> http://space.k-hornz.de/software/scplug
>
> Not sure how active it is at the moment. I rilly rilly wish I had time
> and knowledge to contribute to it, because I too am infatuated with
> the idea of scsynth web-browser plugin. It would be amazing in many,
> many ways.
>
> Dan
>
>
> 2008/5/15 nonprivate <nonprivate@...>:
>  
>> hi yo, did anyone see this?
>> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.de.html
>>
>> it's flash controlling some java audio thing, apparently. it's pretty
>> clever. i also found some other java audio demos that are quite impressive:
>> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/jass/
>>
>> what's the feasability of making a supercollider server internet plugin?
>>
>> i wouldn't have a clue, but i thought it was worth suggesting, and i
>> think it would increase sc usage too, as it would give a really good
>> reason for people to get into it.
>>
>> i'm starting to investigate processing. although it's a bit daunting
>> being at the start of learning another language, albeit a nice high
>> level one, it's a big incentive that "sketches" can be quickly exported
>> to web usable applets.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sc-users mailing list
>> sc-users@...
>> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users
>>
>>    
>
>
>
>  

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Re: hobnox

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nonprivate wrote:
> uh is this old news?

the hobnox thing has been around a few months, but not that long.

> yeah the possibilities are quite large. this hobnox thing isn't some
> stupid toy, despite its friendly appearance. it can't be far away that
> you could just log into a website to make tracks, you wouldn't need the
> program itself and you could store the data remotely.
> and maybe the new income model for music software will be paying 10 quid
> a month for access and data storage. interesting times.

todays announcement of the flash player 10 beta may speed the whole thing up as
they've finally added 'low level' access to the sound buffer.(the downside is
that its currently 200ms minimum latency, but its a real step in the right
direction.)

i think that combined with the new capability of loading and saving files
without requiring a server is really going to make things interesting.

http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-1.html
http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-2.html
http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-3.html

anyone fancy porting SC to actionscript 3? :)
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Re: hobnox

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ah yeah i meant, is it old news about the sc server internet plugin!
anyway it surprised me that the hobnox guys were making a fuss about
flash and audio since they got it down so well with the java thing, in
fact made me wonder why it wasn't all made in java. there are some
stunning processing made java things around. and there again is the
advantage of open source over closed source, you don't have to write
begging letters to developers who don't care about your field of
interest. 200 ms f... that.
sc is such an amazing toolkit, the web needs it.

MDK wrote:

> nonprivate wrote:
>  
>> uh is this old news?
>>    
>
> the hobnox thing has been around a few months, but not that long.
>
>  
>> yeah the possibilities are quite large. this hobnox thing isn't some
>> stupid toy, despite its friendly appearance. it can't be far away that
>> you could just log into a website to make tracks, you wouldn't need the
>> program itself and you could store the data remotely.
>> and maybe the new income model for music software will be paying 10 quid
>> a month for access and data storage. interesting times.
>>    
>
> todays announcement of the flash player 10 beta may speed the whole thing up as
> they've finally added 'low level' access to the sound buffer.(the downside is
> that its currently 200ms minimum latency, but its a real step in the right
> direction.)
>
> i think that combined with the new capability of loading and saving files
> without requiring a server is really going to make things interesting.
>
> http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-1.html
> http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-2.html
> http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-3.html
>
> anyone fancy porting SC to actionscript 3? :)
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scplug (was: hobnox)

by stefan kersten-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On 15.05.2008, at 17:13, Dan Stowell wrote:
> Check it:
> http://space.k-hornz.de/software/scplug
>
> Not sure how active it is at the moment. I rilly rilly wish I had time
> and knowledge to contribute to it, because I too am infatuated with
> the idea of scsynth web-browser plugin. It would be amazing in many,
> many ways.

at the moment it's unfortunately not as active as i'd like it to be.
actually the plugin is not really sophisticated, just a few screens of
code. adapting it to the qt cross browser plugin framework should be
relatively straightforward, but i haven't had the time to have a closer
look at that yet. any kind of contribution appreciated of course!

<sk>

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Re: hobnox

by Dan Stowell :: Rate this Message:

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2008/5/15 nonprivate <nonprivate@...>:
> ah yeah i meant, is it old news about the sc server internet plugin!

Not so much old news, more like it's been in early stages of
development for quite a while, issues still to resolve, etc etc.
Really I should let sk describe his own project since I know he's
around here ;) but I think it's a solo effort so far. I would love to
be able to get involved but I tried to get my head round it once and
got a bit bogged down in the browser API documentation. Oh and I
couldn't get darcs working either.

Still, I think it's a start and if more devs can get involved then
this could be so f*in cool.

Dan


> MDK wrote:
>> nonprivate wrote:
>>
>>> uh is this old news?
>>>
>>
>> the hobnox thing has been around a few months, but not that long.
>>
>>
>>> yeah the possibilities are quite large. this hobnox thing isn't some
>>> stupid toy, despite its friendly appearance. it can't be far away that
>>> you could just log into a website to make tracks, you wouldn't need the
>>> program itself and you could store the data remotely.
>>> and maybe the new income model for music software will be paying 10 quid
>>> a month for access and data storage. interesting times.
>>>
>>
>> todays announcement of the flash player 10 beta may speed the whole thing up as
>> they've finally added 'low level' access to the sound buffer.(the downside is
>> that its currently 200ms minimum latency, but its a real step in the right
>> direction.)
>>
>> i think that combined with the new capability of loading and saving files
>> without requiring a server is really going to make things interesting.
>>
>> http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-1.html
>> http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-2.html
>> http://www.kaourantin.net/2008/05/adobe-is-making-some-noise-part-3.html
>>
>> anyone fancy porting SC to actionscript 3? :)
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Re: hobnox

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recently announced that somebody ported the "processing language to javascript."

which sounds a bit crazy.

but true





On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM, nonprivate <nonprivate@...> wrote:
hi yo, did anyone see this?
http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.de.html

it's flash controlling some java audio thing, apparently. it's pretty
clever. i also found some other java audio demos that are quite impressive:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/jass/

what's the feasability of making a supercollider server internet plugin?
i wouldn't have a clue, but i thought it was worth suggesting, and i
think it would increase sc usage too, as it would give a really good
reason for people to get into it.
i'm starting to investigate processing. although it's a bit daunting
being at the start of learning another language, albeit a nice high
level one, it's a big incentive that "sketches" can be quickly exported
to web usable applets.
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Re: hobnox

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wow, very odd

its inline on the webpage

<script type="application/processing">
float x, y;
float s = 40.0;

void setup() 
{
  size(200,200);
  noStroke();
  frameRate(30);
}

void draw() 
{
  background(102);
  
  x = x + 0.8;
  
  if (x > width + s) {
    x = -s;
  } 
  
  translate(x, height/2-s/2);
  fill(255);
  rect(-s/2, -s/2, s, s);
  
  // Transforms accumulate.
  // Notice how this rect moves twice
  // as fast as the other, but it has
  // the same parameter for the x-axis value
  translate(x, s);
  fill(0);
  rect(-s/2, -s/2, s, s);
}
</script><canvas width="200" height="200"></canvas>



On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM, felix <felix@...> wrote:
recently announced that somebody ported the "processing language to javascript."

which sounds a bit crazy.

but true





On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:21 PM, nonprivate <nonprivate@...> wrote:
hi yo, did anyone see this?
http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.de.html

it's flash controlling some java audio thing, apparently. it's pretty
clever. i also found some other java audio demos that are quite impressive:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/jass/

what's the feasability of making a supercollider server internet plugin?
i wouldn't have a clue, but i thought it was worth suggesting, and i
think it would increase sc usage too, as it would give a really good
reason for people to get into it.
i'm starting to investigate processing. although it's a bit daunting
being at the start of learning another language, albeit a nice high
level one, it's a big incentive that "sketches" can be quickly exported
to web usable applets.
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Re: hobnox

by stefan kersten-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On 15.05.2008, at 20:54, felix wrote:
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> wow, very odd
>
> its inline on the webpage

see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_(HTML_element)
kiss flash goodbye ;)

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