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by Jacek Gozdz
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Romu started a poll about LZ4linux on official lightcrafts forum.
Unfortunately forum engine is down and noone can register there (downloading files is also down). This will be solved but not now (according to my knowledge). I will let You know when things will change. _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by SoftRomu
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Yes, the purpose of the poll is to say : "Hey LZ fellows, we want LZ for
Linux and we're ready to pay for a real release". The forum engine is down, but for the ones we are not registered in the forum, post here your vote and I'll see with the moderator how we can set these votes. ----- Original Message ----- From: <cuniek@...> To: <lightzone@...> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:52 PM Subject: [Lightzone] forum poll > Romu started a poll about LZ4linux on official lightcrafts forum. > > Unfortunately forum engine is down and noone can register there > (downloading files is also down). This will be solved but not now > (according to my knowledge). I will let You know when things will > change. > _______________________________________________ > LightZone mailing list > LightZone@... > http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone > _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Jacek Gozdz
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:48:13 +0200
"SoftRomu" <softromu@...> wrote: > Yes, the purpose of the poll is to say : "Hey LZ fellows, we want LZ > for Linux and we're ready to pay for a real release". > > The forum engine is down, but for the ones we are not registered in > the forum, post here your vote and I'll see with the moderator how we > can set these votes. No big deal, I can edit your poll, including number of votes. _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Niku Toivola
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Count me in!
//Niku On 6/7/07, SoftRomu <softromu@...> wrote: > Yes, the purpose of the poll is to say : "Hey LZ fellows, we want LZ for > Linux and we're ready to pay for a real release". > > The forum engine is down, but for the ones we are not registered in the > forum, post here your vote and I'll see with the moderator how we can set > these votes. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cuniek@...> > To: <lightzone@...> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:52 PM > Subject: [Lightzone] forum poll > > > > Romu started a poll about LZ4linux on official lightcrafts forum. > > > > Unfortunately forum engine is down and noone can register there > > (downloading files is also down). This will be solved but not now > > (according to my knowledge). I will let You know when things will > > change. > > _______________________________________________ > > LightZone mailing list > > LightZone@... > > http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone > > > > _______________________________________________ > LightZone mailing list > LightZone@... > http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone > -- Niku Toivola <niku.toivola@...> _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Jacek Gozdz
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:28:18 +0300
"Niku Toivola" <niku.toivola@...> wrote: > Count me in! > > //Niku > The voting options are: 1 I'd really love a LZ 3 for Linux with possible donations 2 I'm interested in buying a LZ3 release for Linux 3 Not interested Please specify. _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Charles Basenga Kiyanda
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> 1 I'd really love a LZ 3 for Linux with possible donations > 2 I'm interested in buying a LZ3 release for Linux > 3 Not interested > I will buy LZ3 for linux if it is released as a paying software and will be happy about it. I'll tell all my friends I bought my first linux piece of software and I'll have a party to celebrate the fact that it's such an amazing product. If LZ3 for linux is released with possible donations, I'll definitely upgrade, I'd be a fool not too. Charles _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Arnold Melm
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Hi,
Am Donnerstag 07 Juni 2007 14:57 schrieb Charles Basenga Kiyanda: > If LZ3 for linux is released with possible donations, I'll definitely > upgrade, I'd be a fool not too. I prefer this solution. Ciao, Arnold _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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RE: forum poll
by Charlier, Etienne
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Count me in with
> 1 I'd really love a LZ 3 for Linux with possible donations Etienne _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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just a reminder
by Jacek Gozdz
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I'd like to remind that donating is possible at
http://lightzone.minimumeffort.net/donate.html just hope this will help developing LZ3 for linux _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by klaus e. werner
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I want to be part of it, too! On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 21:52 +0000, cuniek@... wrote: > Romu started a poll about LZ4linux on official lightcrafts forum. > > Unfortunately forum engine is down and noone can register there > (downloading files is also down). This will be solved but not now > (according to my knowledge). I will let You know when things will > change. > _______________________________________________ > LightZone mailing list > LightZone@... > http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone klaus e. werner | ὅδος ἀνω κατω μία καὶ ἀυτη _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: just a reminder
by SoftRomu
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I'm sorry Dan but I'm not agree with your point.
I donated some months ago, and I'm ready to do it again, and even to pay for a "real" version. But that also means I don't want to through away my money by the windows. Anton was clear enough : there is no information about the survival and the evolution of LZ for Linux. So what about donation? Donate for what? So the poll, if we are enough, I'm dreaming we can convince LZ fellows to maintain this beautiful piece of software for Linux. And if this has to be done through a real paid version that's not the most horrible thing in the world. Romu PS: Dear Anton, I don't want to become your nightmare, we had some great exchange in a recent past and I hope we'll continue. I really love LZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: <danbowman@...> To: <lightzone@...> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [Lightzone] just a reminder > Well, that was easy enough: I just voted with my wallet. > > dan > using LightZone for Linux and > LightZone 2.4 as a plugin for LightRoom on Windows > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: cuniek@... >> >> I'd like to remind that donating is possible at >> >> http://lightzone.minimumeffort.net/donate.html >> >> just hope this will help developing LZ3 for linux >> _______________________________________________ >> LightZone mailing list >> LightZone@... >> http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone > > > _______________________________________________ > LightZone mailing list > LightZone@... > http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone > _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Avi Schwartz-8
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cuniek@... wrote:
> 2 I'm interested in buying a LZ3 release for Linux > > Avi _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Noah Pritikin
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Am I the only one that isn't interested in purchasing the software? I
might be willing to donate to the "cause" because I think it's an awesome product and I use it, but I still have mixed feelings about using/purchasing linux software that's closed source. Yes, I am hypocritical in my view sometimes, but unless someone else can provide such a seamless and cohesive UI for dealing with RAW pictures that's open source, I'm still hooked on LZ. I'm sorry, I don't want to open up a bag of worms... :) I love LZ, and it works wonderfully for me. Thanks, Noah On 6/7/07, Avi Schwartz <lightzone@...> wrote: > cuniek@... wrote: > > > 2 I'm interested in buying a LZ3 release for Linux > > > > > Avi > _______________________________________________ > LightZone mailing list > LightZone@... > http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone > LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Avi Schwartz-8
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I don't know if you are the only one not interested in purchasing LZ. I
love Linux and I love Open Source and yet I am willing to pay for good software even if it is closed source. How many people pay for open source software? Developers have to eat too, you know. Avi Noah Pritikin wrote: Avi > Am I the only one that isn't interested in purchasing the software? I > might be willing to donate to the "cause" because I think it's an > awesome product and I use it, but I still have mixed feelings about > using/purchasing linux software that's closed source. Yes, I am > hypocritical in my view sometimes, but unless someone else can provide > such a seamless and cohesive UI for dealing with RAW pictures that's > open source, I'm still hooked on LZ. > > I'm sorry, I don't want to open up a bag of worms... :) I love LZ, > and it works wonderfully for me. > > Thanks, > Noah > > On 6/7/07, Avi Schwartz <lightzone@...> wrote: >> cuniek@... wrote: >> >> > 2 I'm interested in buying a LZ3 release for Linux _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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Re: forum poll
by Ade Rixon
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Given that I've just spent approx. $200 upgrading my PC to the minimum
requirement for running LZ 2.4, it would be hypocritical and shortsighted of me if I wasn't then prepared to pay for the software. The price of the Windows/Mac versions causes a small intake of breath (for example, it's twice the cost of Bibble Lite), but I've said from day one that if Lightcrafts decided to charge for LZ, I'd be forced to pay up because there is nothing comparable in this space on Linux (IMHO). Those who consider that it should continue to be free because "everything else is on Linux" should look around and decide if anything of similar capabilities has yet emerged from the open source world. The GIMP has been in heavy development for years and *still* lacks 16 bit support and adjustment layers (although to be fair to the GIMP team, photo-editing clearly isn't their focus). Krita has those features but again isn't targeted at photo-editing. Look at other large Linux applications, even "free" ones - many of them rely in part or in the main on commercial sponsorship to progress (e.g. Mozilla; OpenOffice.org - and these are applications that have wider appeal than an image editor). Developing software to this standard isn't "free", even if you give it away. >From Lightcraft's point of view, I'm sure the consideration is whether the potential revenue from a Linux version would be sufficient to cover the cost of providing paid support, which could easily amount to another FTE on the payroll. I wouldn't have thought it caused much development overhead, being written in Java with any Intel-specific code coming from the Windows version, but there would be support calls to handle, as this list proves (e.g. Java doesn't run; doesn't work on AMD64; why doesn't Batch Export do this; etc.). Therefore, I've just made a nominal donation to Lightcrafts, in recognition of their efforts to date in making LZ available on Linux for free. However, I'm not prepared to donate more until there is some clarity on the future of LZ for Linux. If it becomes a commercial product, then I'll pay - definitely. If there's a free 3.0 release, I'm prepared to make a further, more substantial donation - not equivalent to the retail (supported) price, but comparable with what I paid for Bibble and Vuescan, two other commercial Linux packages that I felt were worth the money (though only just in Bibble's case ;-). Finally, one further thought: given that LZ partly relies on open source-originated packages such as dcraw and lcms, it is at least fair that they reciprocate by making the results of their work available to the community that exists around that software, even if it's in a closed source, commercial form. I would hate for LZ on Linux to simply stop here and disappear. Cheers, Ade_ / -- [ Ade Rixon || http://www.big-bubbles.fluff.org/ || ade.rixon@... ] Round and round and up and down we go ... except on Tuesdays _______________________________________________ LightZone mailing list LightZone@... http://kast-dev.com/mailman/listinfo/lightzone |
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