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don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesSome of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto an e-mail account behind ASSP.
Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks them as backscatter. Could an option excluding messages from an ISPIP from backscatter test solve the problem ? |
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesOn 7/2/2008 3:22 PM, Patrick Neill wrote:
> Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto > an e-mail account behind ASSP. > > Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks > them as backscatter. ? backscatter is defined as NDRs - which typically will have the null sender (<>) envelope from - that are the result of spam that is sent with a forged sender address of the victim... surely these forwarded messages don't have a null sender? -- Best regards, Charles ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test |
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesUnfortunately they do have a null sender.
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesOn 7/2/2008 4:06 PM, Patrick Neill wrote:
>>> Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail >>> account onto an e-mail account behind ASSP. >>> >>> Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages >>> and marks them as backscatter. >> ? backscatter is defined as NDRs - which typically will have the null >> sender (<>) envelope from - that are the result of spam that is sent >> with a forged sender address of the victim... surely these forwarded >> messages don't have a null sender? > Unfortunately they do have a null sender. So there's the problem... make the forwarder rewrite the envelope sender properly... -- Best regards, Charles ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test |
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesThey are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do anything for their customers ?
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesOn 7/2/2008 Patrick Neill wrote:
> They are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do > anything for their customers ? So do the forwarding on your own server... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test |
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Antwort: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages>Could an option excluding messages from an ISPIP from backscatter test solve the problem ? This option could not be a switch "DoNotBackScatteronISPIP". If anyone gets all his emails from ISPIP's, he would not have a choice! So, I think an option "noBackScatterIP", which could be a file with IP's, could solve this problem?! But you'll have to register your ISPIP's in two options separately! Thomas
Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto an e-mail account behind ASSP. Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks them as backscatter. Could an option excluding messages from an ISPIP from backscatter test solve the problem ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/don%27t-perform-backscatter-tests-on-ISPIP-messages-tp18244875p18244875.html Sent from the assp-test mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test DISCLAIMER: ******************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential, legally privileged and protected in law and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. This email was multiple times scanned for viruses. There should be no known virus in this email! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test |
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesPatrick Neill wrote:
> Unfortunately they do have a null sender. > > > How is the forwarding being performed? By the other ISP server, or by something like fetchmail? If from the remote server, a null sender seems like a very poorly configured system. You might drop a line to their admin. Otherwise, is there no commonality to the messages which you could use for red- and/or white-listing? -- Daniel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test |
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Antwort: Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesThere is a new option added to config : noBackSctrIP - any defined IP will not be check for backscattering! 'ispHostnames' is used for DNS-Backscatter-check instead of the real IP - if it is found! Thomas
On 7/2/2008 Patrick Neill wrote: > They are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do > anything for their customers ? So do the forwarding on your own server... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test DISCLAIMER: ******************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential, legally privileged and protected in law and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. This email was multiple times scanned for viruses. There should be no known virus in this email! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 _______________________________________________ Assp-test mailing list Assp-test@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-test |
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Re: Antwort: Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messagesThe speed with which changes are implemented in ASSP is amazing !
The IP based exclusion is working nicely. Thank you very much.
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