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don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

by Patrick Neill :: Rate this Message:

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Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto an e-mail account behind ASSP.

Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks them as backscatter.

Could an option excluding messages from an ISPIP from backscatter test solve the problem ?

Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

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On 7/2/2008 3:22 PM, Patrick Neill wrote:
> Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto
> an e-mail account behind ASSP.
>
> Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks
> them as backscatter.

? backscatter is defined as NDRs - which typically will have the null
sender (<>) envelope from - that are the result of spam that is sent
with a forged sender address of the victim... surely these forwarded
messages don't have a null sender?

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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

by Patrick Neill :: Rate this Message:

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Unfortunately they do have a null sender.


tanstaafl_bh wrote:
On 7/2/2008 3:22 PM, Patrick Neill wrote:
> Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto
> an e-mail account behind ASSP.
>
> Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks
> them as backscatter.

? backscatter is defined as NDRs - which typically will have the null
sender (<>) envelope from - that are the result of spam that is sent
with a forged sender address of the victim... surely these forwarded
messages don't have a null sender?

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Best regards,

Charles

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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

by tanstaafl_bh :: Rate this Message:

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On 7/2/2008 4:06 PM, Patrick Neill wrote:
>>> Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail
>>> account onto an e-mail account behind ASSP.
>>>
>>> Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages
>>> and marks them as backscatter.

>> ? backscatter is defined as NDRs - which typically will have the null
>> sender (<>) envelope from - that are the result of spam that is sent
>> with a forged sender address of the victim... surely these forwarded
>> messages don't have a null sender?

 > Unfortunately they do have a null sender.

So there's the problem... make the forwarder rewrite the envelope sender
properly...

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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

by Patrick Neill :: Rate this Message:

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They are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do anything for their customers ?

tanstaafl_bh wrote:
On 7/2/2008 4:06 PM, Patrick Neill wrote:
>>> Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail
>>> account onto an e-mail account behind ASSP.
>>>
>>> Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages
>>> and marks them as backscatter.

>> ? backscatter is defined as NDRs - which typically will have the null
>> sender (<>) envelope from - that are the result of spam that is sent
>> with a forged sender address of the victim... surely these forwarded
>> messages don't have a null sender?

 > Unfortunately they do have a null sender.

So there's the problem... make the forwarder rewrite the envelope sender
properly...

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Charles

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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

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On 7/2/2008 Patrick Neill wrote:
> They are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do
> anything for their customers ?

So do the forwarding on your own server...

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Antwort: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

by Thomas Eckardt/eck :: Rate this Message:

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>Could an option excluding messages from an ISPIP from backscatter test solve the problem ?

This option could not be a switch "DoNotBackScatteronISPIP". If anyone gets all his emails from ISPIP's, he would not have a choice!
So, I think an option "noBackScatterIP", which could be a file with IP's, could solve this problem?! But you'll have to register your ISPIP's in two options separately!

Thomas




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Some of my users are forwarding messages from their ISP e-mail account onto
an e-mail account behind ASSP.

Problem: ASSP obviously doesn't have a MSGID for these messages and marks
them as backscatter.

Could an option excluding messages from an ISPIP from backscatter test solve
the problem ?
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Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

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Patrick Neill wrote:
> Unfortunately they do have a null sender.
>
>
>  
How is the forwarding being performed?  By the other ISP server, or by
something like fetchmail?  If from the remote server, a null sender
seems like a very poorly configured system.  You might drop a line to
their admin.

Otherwise, is there no commonality to the messages which you could use
for red- and/or white-listing?


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Antwort: Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

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There is a new option added to config : noBackSctrIP  -  any defined IP will not be check for backscattering!
'ispHostnames' is used for DNS-Backscatter-check instead of the real IP - if it is found!

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On 7/2/2008 Patrick Neill wrote:
> They are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do
> anything for their customers ?

So do the forwarding on your own server...

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Re: Antwort: Re: don't perform backscatter tests on ISPIP messages

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The speed with which changes are implemented in ASSP is amazing !

The IP based exclusion is working nicely. Thank you very much.


Thomas Eckardt/eck wrote:
There is a new option added to config : noBackSctrIP  -  any defined IP
will not be check for backscattering!
'ispHostnames' is used for DNS-Backscatter-check instead of the real IP -
if it is found!

Thomas




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On 7/2/2008 Patrick Neill wrote:
> They are the largest ISP in this country. Why should they want to do
> anything for their customers ?

So do the forwarding on your own server...

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