dojo 1.1 in struts 2.0.11 portlets

[Tracy12]

Hi,

In order to leverage the full capabilities of dojo 1.1
(latest) with the latest stable struts version. What
exactlyt the best practice.

The things we concerned are as followes

1) Will there be a conflict in the different dojo
versions in struts 2.0.11 and dojo 1.1

2) Will it impact any struts tags behaviours etc.

If there is a better way to explore the new features
of dojo pls do let us know, or any other best practice

Thanks



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[Jeromy Evans - Blue Sky Minds]

tom tom wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In order to leverage the full capabilities of dojo 1.1
> (latest) with the latest stable struts version. What
> exactlyt the best practice.
>
> The things we concerned are as followes
>
> 1) Will there be a conflict in the different dojo
> versions in struts 2.0.11 and dojo 1.1
>
>  

Yes, the Struts2 ajax-theme tags will conflict with Dojo 1.1.  Don't use
tue struts2 ajax-themed tags.
> 2) Will it impact any struts tags behaviours etc.
>
>  
Yes, definitely as the Struts2 ajax tags are for Dojo 0.4.x.
> If there is a better way to explore the new features
> of dojo pls do let us know, or any other best practice
>
>  
Yes, use Dojo 1.1 directly within your JSP.  Don't attempt to use the
Struts 2 ajax tags (dojo 0.4) at the same time as Dojo 1.1.  Juse use
the css/xhtml themed struts tags and dojo's own markup and widgets.




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[Tracy12]

Thanks Jeromy,

Yes that is what I also thought,

On the other hand I came to know that Struts 2.1 got
lot of tag enhancements with regards to dojo ....


The main thing which I can't understand is, why struts
provides AJAX theme at all,

DOJO to me is not only a set of javascript, it is a
framework, with widgets and events,

How can individual struts tags support the entire
event model, am confused, isnt it a good idea to
provide the practices to use dojo directly to utilize
the full dojo features.

Thanks
--- Jeromy Evans <jeromy.evans@...>
wrote:

> tom tom wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In order to leverage the full capabilities of dojo
> 1.1
> > (latest) with the latest stable struts version.
> What
> > exactlyt the best practice.
> >
> > The things we concerned are as followes
> >
> > 1) Will there be a conflict in the different dojo
> > versions in struts 2.0.11 and dojo 1.1
> >
> >  
> Yes, the Struts2 ajax-theme tags will conflict with
> Dojo 1.1.  Don't use
> tue struts2 ajax-themed tags.
> > 2) Will it impact any struts tags behaviours etc.
> >
> >  
> Yes, definitely as the Struts2 ajax tags are for
> Dojo 0.4.x.
> > If there is a better way to explore the new
> features
> > of dojo pls do let us know, or any other best
> practice
> >
> >  
> Yes, use Dojo 1.1 directly within your JSP.  Don't
> attempt to use the
> Struts 2 ajax tags (dojo 0.4) at the same time as
> Dojo 1.1.  Juse use
> the css/xhtml themed struts tags and dojo's own
> markup and widgets.
>
>
>
>
>

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[Tracy12]

Hi Jeromy,

Sorry, I forgot one more question,

Eventhough we use dojo 1.1 directly, we need to have
dojo.js, wouldn't this conflict with the one which
comes as part of struts bundle

--- Jeromy Evans <jeromy.evans@...>
wrote:

> tom tom wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In order to leverage the full capabilities of dojo
> 1.1
> > (latest) with the latest stable struts version.
> What
> > exactlyt the best practice.
> >
> > The things we concerned are as followes
> >
> > 1) Will there be a conflict in the different dojo
> > versions in struts 2.0.11 and dojo 1.1
> >
> >  
> Yes, the Struts2 ajax-theme tags will conflict with
> Dojo 1.1.  Don't use
> tue struts2 ajax-themed tags.
> > 2) Will it impact any struts tags behaviours etc.
> >
> >  
> Yes, definitely as the Struts2 ajax tags are for
> Dojo 0.4.x.
> > If there is a better way to explore the new
> features
> > of dojo pls do let us know, or any other best
> practice
> >
> >  
> Yes, use Dojo 1.1 directly within your JSP.  Don't
> attempt to use the
> Struts 2 ajax tags (dojo 0.4) at the same time as
> Dojo 1.1.  Juse use
> the css/xhtml themed struts tags and dojo's own
> markup and widgets.
>
>
>
>
>

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[Laurie Harper]

Yes, it would, which is why Jeromy said don't use the strts2 ajax theme
or tags. As long as you don't use those, the Dojo bundled with Struts
wont be loaded, so there wont then be a conflict.

L.

tom tom wrote:

> Hi Jeromy,
>
> Sorry, I forgot one more question,
>
> Eventhough we use dojo 1.1 directly, we need to have
> dojo.js, wouldn't this conflict with the one which
> comes as part of struts bundle
>
> --- Jeromy Evans <jeromy.evans@...>
> wrote:
>
>> tom tom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In order to leverage the full capabilities of dojo
>> 1.1
>>> (latest) with the latest stable struts version.
>> What
>>> exactlyt the best practice.
>>>
>>> The things we concerned are as followes
>>>
>>> 1) Will there be a conflict in the different dojo
>>> versions in struts 2.0.11 and dojo 1.1
>>>
>>>  
>> Yes, the Struts2 ajax-theme tags will conflict with
>> Dojo 1.1.  Don't use
>> tue struts2 ajax-themed tags.
>>> 2) Will it impact any struts tags behaviours etc.
>>>
>>>  
>> Yes, definitely as the Struts2 ajax tags are for
>> Dojo 0.4.x.
>>> If there is a better way to explore the new
>> features
>>> of dojo pls do let us know, or any other best
>> practice
>>>  
>> Yes, use Dojo 1.1 directly within your JSP.  Don't
>> attempt to use the
>> Struts 2 ajax tags (dojo 0.4) at the same time as
>> Dojo 1.1.  Juse use
>> the css/xhtml themed struts tags and dojo's own
>> markup and widgets.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Tracy12]

Thanks Jeromy,

If we use direct dojo calls (dojo 1.1) without using
struts ajax tags, Will there be any issues linking
these components with server side Struts Action and
form classes,

e.g if I have a dojo 1.1 Grib will I be able to
utilize the serverside struts action classes, are
there any best practice for this.

My first objective is to have dojo Grid inside a jsp,
with CRUD/sorting and pagination

And

Link this Grid with the Struts 2 Action classes,

Is there any practices to follow to achieve, is this
doable

Thanks



--- Jeromy Evans <jeromy.evans@...>
wrote:

> tom tom wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In order to leverage the full capabilities of dojo
> 1.1
> > (latest) with the latest stable struts version.
> What
> > exactlyt the best practice.
> >
> > The things we concerned are as followes
> >
> > 1) Will there be a conflict in the different dojo
> > versions in struts 2.0.11 and dojo 1.1
> >
> >  
> Yes, the Struts2 ajax-theme tags will conflict with
> Dojo 1.1.  Don't use
> tue struts2 ajax-themed tags.
> > 2) Will it impact any struts tags behaviours etc.
> >
> >  
> Yes, definitely as the Struts2 ajax tags are for
> Dojo 0.4.x.
> > If there is a better way to explore the new
> features
> > of dojo pls do let us know, or any other best
> practice
> >
> >  
> Yes, use Dojo 1.1 directly within your JSP.  Don't
> attempt to use the
> Struts 2 ajax tags (dojo 0.4) at the same time as
> Dojo 1.1.  Juse use
> the css/xhtml themed struts tags and dojo's own
> markup and widgets.
>
>
>
>
>

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[Jeromy Evans - Blue Sky Minds]

tom tom wrote:

> Thanks Jeromy,
>
> If we use direct dojo calls (dojo 1.1) without using
> struts ajax tags, Will there be any issues linking
> these components with server side Struts Action and
> form classes,
>
> e.g if I have a dojo 1.1 Grib will I be able to
> utilize the serverside struts action classes, are
> there any best practice for this.
>
> My first objective is to have dojo Grid inside a jsp,
> with CRUD/sorting and pagination
>
> And
>
> Link this Grid with the Struts 2 Action classes,
>
> Is there any practices to follow to achieve, is this
> doable
>
> Thanks
>
>  

Hi haven't used Dojo's grid myself so I can only speculate on a suitable
approach, but I do use the YUI datagrid with a json datasource and all
the features you described.
Struts2 actions are actually very good at this.  Create an action that
will be the datasource for the grid (on for the page; for the grid).  I
use the action to setup a bean that matches the model used by grid, and
then use the JSON plugin result or REST plugin to serialize the bean as
JSON or XML.  I created a factory that could create an appropriate table
model from a collection of beans.  If you make it match exactly what
dojo expects then there'll be very little work to do on the client-side.
If you make the model generic you can reuse it for all your different
grids; this is the kind of thing that does belong in a dojo plugin.
regards,
Jeromy Evans


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[Tracy12]

Thanks Jeromy,

Is there any reason why YUI datagrid instead of dojo
1.1 grid,

Isn't it risky to depend on YUI datagrid,

Thanks



--- Jeromy Evans <jeromy.evans@...>
wrote:

> tom tom wrote:
> > Thanks Jeromy,
> >
> > If we use direct dojo calls (dojo 1.1) without
> using
> > struts ajax tags, Will there be any issues linking
> > these components with server side Struts Action
> and
> > form classes,
> >
> > e.g if I have a dojo 1.1 Grib will I be able to
> > utilize the serverside struts action classes, are
> > there any best practice for this.
> >
> > My first objective is to have dojo Grid inside a
> jsp,
> > with CRUD/sorting and pagination
> >
> > And
> >
> > Link this Grid with the Struts 2 Action classes,
> >
> > Is there any practices to follow to achieve, is
> this
> > doable
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >  
>
> Hi haven't used Dojo's grid myself so I can only
> speculate on a suitable
> approach, but I do use the YUI datagrid with a json
> datasource and all
> the features you described.
> Struts2 actions are actually very good at this.
> Create an action that
> will be the datasource for the grid (on for the
> page; for the grid).  I
> use the action to setup a bean that matches the
> model used by grid, and
> then use the JSON plugin result or REST plugin to
> serialize the bean as
> JSON or XML.  I created a factory that could create
> an appropriate table
> model from a collection of beans.  If you make it
> match exactly what
> dojo expects then there'll be very little work to do
> on the client-side.
> If you make the model generic you can reuse it for
> all your different
> grids; this is the kind of thing that does belong in
> a dojo plugin.
> regards,
> Jeromy Evans
>
>
>

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[Jeromy Evans - Blue Sky Minds]

tom tom wrote:

> Thanks Jeromy,
>
> Is there any reason why YUI datagrid instead of dojo
> 1.1 grid,
>
> Isn't it risky to depend on YUI datagrid,
>
> Thanks
>
>  

Moving to YUI datagrid is no riskier than moving to Dojo 1.1.  They're
both good libraries.  Dojo 1.1 is very different than 0.4 but not as
different as YUI.
Each use different programming models and approaches (as do the other
libraries I referenced) so choose one that you're comfortable or
productive with.

In fact, the very first thing I did with YUI was create a small test
action with an ajax datagrid.

Anyway watch this video tutorial about the DojoX datagrid:
http://dojocampus.org/content/2008/02/17/dojox-grid/

Hope that helps,
Jeromy Evans

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[Tracy12]

dojo 1.1 Grid looks very good,

but it is still under dojox project, because of that
we are thinking twice

How flexible the YUI datagrid and how about the
integration with Struts 2,

Is that grid in beta like dojo grid or ready for
production support

Thanks,


--- Jeromy Evans <jeromy.evans@...>
wrote:

> tom tom wrote:
> > Thanks Jeromy,
> >
> > Is there any reason why YUI datagrid instead of
> dojo
> > 1.1 grid,
> >
> > Isn't it risky to depend on YUI datagrid,
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >  
>
> Moving to YUI datagrid is no riskier than moving to
> Dojo 1.1.  They're
> both good libraries.  Dojo 1.1 is very different
> than 0.4 but not as
> different as YUI.
> Each use different programming models and approaches
> (as do the other
> libraries I referenced) so choose one that you're
> comfortable or
> productive with.
>
> In fact, the very first thing I did with YUI was
> create a small test
> action with an ajax datagrid.
>
> Anyway watch this video tutorial about the DojoX
> datagrid:
> http://dojocampus.org/content/2008/02/17/dojox-grid/
>
> Hope that helps,
> Jeromy Evans
>
>

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[Jeromy Evans - Blue Sky Minds]

tom tom wrote:

> dojo 1.1 Grid looks very good,
>
> but it is still under dojox project, because of that
> we are thinking twice
>
> How flexible the YUI datagrid and how about the
> integration with Struts 2,
>
> Is that grid in beta like dojo grid or ready for
> production support
>
> Thanks,
>
>  

The YUI datagrid is very flexible and works great with Struts 2.  Just
get in an try it out in a little test application.  Don't forget though
that it is a completely different appropriate to client-side programming
compared to Dojo.  You also need to consider where your application is
going and what other widgets you may need.  YUI deliberately leave a lot
of things out that may want.  Instead they provide APIs.

In terms of stability, the YUI grid is fine.  The known issues are
discussed at the bottom of the documentation.  It's beta because the API
is subject to change, and there was a significant change between 2.5.0
and 2.5.1.  I can only speculate, but I expect there'll be some more
changes as their Charting widget uses the same DataSource API as the
datagrid and charting is experimental, but my experience with these guys
has only been positive so far.

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