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apt-get update problem

2008-08-27T05:07:54Z

I have created own repository using reprepro...hav added *.deb package to the repository and changed the sources.list but yet m getting the following error while apt-get update

apt-get update
Err file: sarge/main Packages
File not found
Ign file: sarge/main Release
Err file: sarge/contrib Packages
File not found
Ign file: sarge/contrib Release
Err file: sarge/non-free Packages
File not found
Ign file: sarge/non-free Release
Err file: sarge/./ Packages
File not found
Ign file: sarge/./ Release
Err file: sarge/main Sources
File not found
Ign file: sarge/main Release
Err file: sarge/contrib Sources
File not found
Ign file: sarge/contrib Release
Err file: sarge/non-free Sources
File not found
Ign file: sarge/non-free Release
Err file: sarge/./ Sources
File not found
Ign file: sarge/./ Release
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/main/binary-arm/Packages.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/contrib/binary-arm/Packages.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/non-free/binary-arm/Packages.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/.//binary-arm/Packages.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/main/source/Sources.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/contrib/source/Sources.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/non-free/source/Sources.gz File not found
Failed to fetch file:/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge/.//source/Sources.gz File not found
Reading Package Lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list file: sarge/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_home_reema_azingo%5frepo_apt_dists_sarge_main_binary-arm_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list file: sarge/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_home_reema_azingo%5frepo_apt_dists_sarge_contrib_binary-arm_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list file: sarge/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_home_reema_azingo%5frepo_apt_dists_sarge_non-free_binary-arm_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list file: sarge/./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_home_reema_azingo%5frepo_apt_dists_sarge_.__binary-arm_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

susu kolostrum

2008-08-22T20:00:28Z

Untuk yang mau menambah income tanpa harus meninggalkan pekerjaan anda,dan dapat dikerjakan dari rumah
atau kantor,barang yang mudah laku dan sangat dibutuhkan oleh masyarakat berupa susu kolostrum yang
terbukti dapat menyembuhkan berbagai macam penyakit.keuntungan yang akan dapat adalah sbb :

1.RETAIL PROFIT 10-30 %
2.PERFORMANCE BONUS 10 %
3.PERSONAL SALES BONUS 5 %
4.ACHIEVEMENT BONUS 9 %
5.LEADERSHIP BONUS 49 %
6.SPECIAL BONUS 3 %
7.SMART PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTOR 4 %
- YEAR END BONUS 3 %
- TRAVELLING FUND BONUS 1%

http://www.smartnaco.co.id/html/iggplus.htm

silahkan lihat kesaksian dari :

Dr.MARWAH DAUD IBRAHIM anggota ICMI di :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6NAYBs28E&feature=related

Hj.LUTFIAH SUNGKAR di:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GWp3F1dWc8&feature=related

Product knowledge mengenai susu kolostrum :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1HkgdQMRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p109xo0ngSY

APAKAH ITU SUSU KOLOSTRUM..??

Kolostrum adalah cairan pra susu yang dihasilkan oleh induk sapi dalam 24-36 jam pertama setelah melahirkan
(pasca persalinan).perbedaan dengan susu sapi biasa adalah :susu kolostrum mengandung komponon bioktif yang
tinggi dan terdapat lebih dari 90 jenis komponen didalamnya.Kolostrum mensuplai berbagai faktor kekebalan
(faktor imun).dan faktor pertumbuhan pendukung kehidupan dengan kombinasi zat gizi(nutrient) yang sempurna
untuk menjamin kelangsungan hidup pertumbuhan dan kesehatan terutama bayi-bayi yang baru lahir.
hasil penelitian juga menunjukan bahwa kolostrum sapi 40X lipat lebih kaya akan faktor imun daripada
kolostrum manusia..

MANFAAT UTAMA SUSU KOLOSTRUM

1.Menurunkan kadar kolesterol dan kadar gula darah (cocok bagi penderita diabetes)
2.Memelihara kekuatan tulang (osteoporosis dan persendian)
3.Merangsang pertumbuhan tulang
4.Meningkatkan pencegahan tehadap serangan jantung,stroke,alzheimer
5.Meregenerasi sel syaraf otak(cocok bagi penderita stroke dan lumpuh)
6.Mencegah penyempitan pembuluh darah
7.Membantu menghambat sel kanker
8.Membantu mengatasi asam urat,rematik,asma
9.Memelihara fungsi hati,jantung,ginjal,paru-paru,kantong kemih,dan saluran pernapasan
10.Memperbaiki dan meningkatkan system DNA dan RNA(menyehatkan hormon,sel telur,sel
sperma,mengatasi lemah syahwat)
11.Menormalkan tekanan darah(cocok bagi darah tinggi/rendah)
12.Mampu melawan infeksi virus,Bakteri,jamur dan parasit
13.Anti Alergi,Anti peradangan,dan anti toksin
14.Membakar lemak menjadi energi(tanpa diet)
15.Membentuk otot tanpa lemak
16.Meningkatkan kekebalan tubuh (cocok untuk penderita narkoba,HIV)
17.Meningkatkan daya ingat
18.Memperbaiki jaringan kuli/sel tubuh yang rusak(luka terbakar/kecelakaan,habis operasi
/melahirkan)
19.Menigkatkan dan memperbaiki system metabolisme tubuh.
20.meningkatkan kebugaran secara keseluruhan
21.meningkatka pertumbuhan rambut ,terutama pada pria
22.meningkatkan energi lebih tinggi
23.meningkatkan kekuatan jumlah otot
24.meningkatkan suasana hati (mood)
25.meningkatkan flexibilitas punggung
26.meningkatkan toleransi dan ketahanan latihan
27.memperbaiki fungsi imun sehingga meningkatkan perlindungan terhadap penyakit
yang terkait dengan kekebalan tubuh

SUSU KOLOSTRUM DAPAT :

1.meningkatkan kebugaran secara keseluruhan
2.mengurangi lemak tubuh tanpa diet.
3.menguatkan tonus dan textur kulit.
4.menigkatkan daya ingat
5.menghilangkan kerutan
6.meningkatka pertumbuhan rambut ,terutama pada pria
7.meningkatkan energi lebih tinggi
8.meningkatkan kekuatan jumlah otot
9.meningkatkan suasana hati (mood)
10.meningkatkan flexibilitas punggung
11.meningkatkan toleransi dan ketahanan latihan
12.kapasitas pemulihan lebih cepat dan pemulihan kembali dari cedera lama
13.memperbaiki fungsi imun sehingga meningkatkan perlindungan terhadap penyakit yang terkait dengan kekebalan
tubuh.

FAKTOR IMUNITAS TUBUH.

Adanya berbagai penyakitr degneratif(keturunan) dan infeksi yang menyerang manusia adalah disebabkan oleh
lemahnya sisterm imunitas tubuh.penelitian secara medis menunjukakan bahwa susu kolostrum :

1.mempunyai faktor imunitas yang kuat(immunoglobulin,lactoferin,olctalbumin,glycoprotein,cytokines.dll)
yang membantu melawan virus bakteri,jamur,alergi dan toksin.
2.membantu mengatasi berbagai masalah usus,auto imunitas,arthritis,alergi HIV dll.
3.Membantu menyeimbangkan kadar gula dalam darah yang sangat bermanfaat bagi penderita diabetes.
4.kaya akan kandungan TgF-B yang mendukung terapi penderita kanker,pembentukan tulang dan mencegah penyakit
herpes
5.Mengandung Immonoglobulin yang telah terbukti dapat berfungsi sebagai anti virus,anti bakteri,anti jamur
dan anti toksin.

FAKTOR PERTUMBUHAN

Kolostrum mengandung faktor pertumbuhan alam yang berfungsi untuk :
1.Meningkatkan sistem metabolisme tubuh
2.meningkatkan sistem DNA & RNA tubuh
3.Mengaktifkan sel T
4.Mencegah penuaan dini
5.Merangsang hormon pertumbuhan (HGH)
6.Membantu menghaluskan kulit & menyehatkan kulit
7.mencegah Osteoporosis
8.Memperbaikin dan meningkatkan pertumbuhan jaringan tubuh
9.Kolostrum mengandung mineral,anti oksidan,enzim,asam amino dan vitamin A,B12 & E

Bagitu pentingnya kolotrum untuk tubuh maka pihak PT.SMART NACO INDONESIA telah mengemas susu kolostrum
tersebut menjadi susu skim.dengan nama susu skim IgG-PLUS.

Kolostrum yang didapat adalah berasal dari peternakan sapai yang bermutu tinggi di New Zaeland.

susu skim kolostrum dari IgG-PLUS telah mendapatkan sertifikat JAS,ANZ ISO9001 DAN ISO 14001 di Malaysia,
sertifikat HACCP(Hazard Analyst and Critical Control Ponit ) di Malaysia .sertifikat halal di New Zaeland,
Malaysia dan MUI Indonesia,pengakuan BPOM dengan no.806701001433.

Distribusi ke seluruh wilayah indonesia.

silahkan kunjungi : http://www.smartnaco.co.id/html/iggplus.htm

untuk keterangan:

UMAR
0813-19288679
0859-21346503
"umarsani7@gmail.com"

smart income dr smart naco

2008-08-22T19:57:56Z

PINJAMAN UANG TANPA AGUNAN 8-125 JT..dr HSBC..provisi/adm 1,5 %

2008-08-22T19:41:01Z

Pinjaman uang tunai tanpa agunan dari bank terbesar di asia ,memberikan kemudahan bagi anda untuk

mendapatkannya dengan persyaratan yang sangat mudah dan flexible cukup dengan fc ktp dan

fc credit card (sisi depannya saja),fc billing tagihan 1 bulan terakhir (bila ada)

dan bunga yang sangat kompetitif ,proses hingga pencairan hanya membutuhkan MAXIMAL

5 hari kerja saja.kemudahan pembayaran yg dapat dilakukan via ATM BCA,LIPPO,BII

atau pun dapat juga lewat kantor pos.

DIBANTU HINGGA CAIR........

hubungi :

windi

94624222

or

"wonderwindi09@gmail.com"

PERHITUNGAN BUNGA/BULAN

TENOR

Jml.Pinjaman 12 bulan 24 bulan 36 bulan

8.000.000 - 14.999.999 1.87% 1.87 %. -

15.000.000 - 125.000.000 1.70% 1.75 %. 1.80 %.

TABEL ANGSURAN

PINJAMAN 1 TAHUN 2 TAHUN 3 TAHUN

8,000,000 816,267 482,933

9,000,000 918,300 543,300

10,000,000 1,020,334 603,666

10,500,000 1,071,350 633,850

11,000,000 1,122,367 664,033

12,000,000 1,224,401 724,400

13,000,000 1,326,434 784,766

14,000,000 1,428,467 845,133

15,000,000 1,505,000 887,500 686,667

16,000,000 1,605,333 946,667 732,444

17,000,000 1,705,667 1,005,833 778,222

18,000,000 1,806,000 1,065,000 824,000

19,000,000 1,906,333 1,124,167 869,778

20,000,000 2,006,667 1,183,333 915,556

21,000,000 2,107,000 1,242,500 961,333

22,000,000 2,207,333 1,301,667 1,007,111

23,000,000 2,307,667 1,360,833 1,052,889

24,000,000 2,408,000 1,420,000 1,098,667

25,000,000 2,508,333 1,479,167 1,144,444

25,500,000 2,558,500 1,508,750 1,167,333

26,000,000 2,608,667 1,538,333 1,190,222

27,000,000 2,709,000 1,597,500 1,236,000

28,000,000 2,809,333 1,656,667 1,281,778

29,000,000 2,909,667 1,715,833 1,327,556

30,000,000 3,010,000 1,775,000 1,373,333

31,000,000 3,110,333 1,834,167 1,419,111

32,000,000 3,210,667 1,893,333 1,464,889

33,000,000 3,311,000 1,952,500 1,510,667

34,000,000 3,411,333 2,011,667 1,556,444

35,000,000 3,511,667 2,070,833 1,602,222

36,000,000 3,612,000 2,130,000 1,648,000

37,000,000 3,712,333 2,189,167 1,693,778

38,000,000 3,812,667 2,248,333 1,739,556

39,000,000 3,913,000 2,307,500 1,785,333

40,000,000 4,013,333 2,366,667 1,831,111

41,000,000 4,113,667 2,425,833 1,876,889

42,000,000 4,214,000 2,485,000 1,922,667

43,000,000 4,314,333 2,544,167 1,968,444

44,000,000 4,414,667 2,603,333 2,014,222

45,000,000 4,515,000 2,662,500 2,060,000

46,000,000 4,615,333 2,721,667 2,105,778

47,000,000 4,715,667 2,780,833 2,151,556

48,000,000 4,816,000 2,840,000 2,197,333

49,000,000 4,916,333 2,899,167 2,243,111

50,000,000 5,016,667 2,958,333 2,288,889

55,000,000 5,518,333 3,254,167 2,517,778

60,000,000 6,020,000 3,550,000 2,746,667

65,000,000 6,521,667 3,845,833 2,975,556

70,000,000 7,023,333 4,141,667 3,204,444

75,000,000 7,525,000 4,437,500 3,433,333

80,000,000 8,026,667 4,733,333 3,662,222

85,000,000 8,528,333 5,029,167 3,891,111

90,000,000 9,030,000 5,325,000 4,120,000

95,000,000 9,531,667 5,620,833 4,348,889

100,000,000 10,033,333 5,916,667 4,577,778

105,000,000 10,535,000 6,212,500 4,806,667

110,000,000 11,036,667 6,508,333 5,035,556

115,000,000 11,538,333 6,804,167 5,264,444

120,000,000 12,040,000 7,100,000 5,493,333

125,000,000 12,541,667 7,395,833 5,722,222

Wikimedia Foundation job opportunities

2008-08-16T05:55:21Z

Hey all,

A friend of mine says that Wikimedia is interested in attracting interesting
free software-savvy women to its current technical team job openings. If any of
you are interested, the postings can be found at
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings.

Cheers,
Christine

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susu naco

2008-08-15T21:49:43Z

silahkan lihat kesaksian dari :

Dr.MARWAH DAUD IBRAHIM anggota ICMI di :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6NAYBs28E&feature=related

Hj.LUTFIAH SUNGKAR di:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GWp3F1dWc8&feature=related

product knowledge mengenai susu kolostrum :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1HkgdQMRY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p109xo0ngSY

APAKAH ITU SUSU KOLOSTRUM..??

Kolostrum adalah cairan pra susu yang dihasilkan oleh induk sapi

dalam 24-36 jam pertama setelah melahirkan (pasca persalinan).

perbedaan dengan susu sapi biasa adalah :susu kolostrum mengandung

komponon bioktif yang tinggi dan terdapat lebih dari 90 jenis komponen

didalamnya.Kolostrum mensuplai berbagai faktor kekebalan (faktor imun).

dan faktor pertumbuhan pendukung kehidupan dengan kombinasi zat gizi

(nutrient) yang sempurna untuk menjamin kelangsungan hidup pertumbuhan

dan kesehatan terutama bayi-bayi yang baru lahir.

hasil penelitian juga menunjukan bahwa kolostrum sapi 40X lipat lebih kaya

akan faktor imun daripada kolostrum manusia..

MANFAAT UTAMA SUSU KOLOSTRUM

1.Menurunkan kadar kolesterol dan kadar gula darah (cocok bagi penderita diabetes)

2.Memelihara kekuatan tulang (osteoporosis dan persendian)

3.Merangsang pertumbuhan tulang

4.Meningkatkan pencegahan tehadap serangan jantung,stroke,alzheimer

5.Meregenerasi sel syaraf otak(cocok bagi penderita stroke dan lumpuh)

6.Mencegah penyempitan pembuluh darah

7.Membantu menghambat sel kanker

8.Membantu mengatasi asam urat,rematik,asma

9.Memelihara fungsi hati,jantung,ginjal,paru-paru,kantong kemih,dan saluran pernapasan

10.Memperbaiki dan meningkatkan system DNA dan RNA(menyehatkan hormon,sel telur,sel

sperma,mengatasi lemah syahwat)

11.Menormalkan tekanan darah(cocok bagi darah tinggi/rendah)

12.Mampu melawan infeksi virus,Bakteri,jamur dan parasit

13.Anti Alergi,Anti peradangan,dan anti toksin

14.Membakar lemak menjadi energi(tanpa diet)

15.Membentuk otot tanpa lemak

16.Meningkatkan kekebalan tubuh (cocok untuk penderita narkoba,HIV)

17.Meningkatkan daya ingat

18.Memperbaiki jaringan kuli/sel tubuh yang rusak(luka terbakar/kecelakaan,habis operasi

/melahirkan)

19.Menigkatkan dan memperbaiki system metabolisme tubuh.

20.meningkatkan kebugaran secara keseluruhan

21.meningkatka pertumbuhan rambut ,terutama pada pria

22.meningkatkan energi lebih tinggi

23.meningkatkan kekuatan jumlah otot

24.meningkatkan suasana hati (mood)

25.meningkatkan flexibilitas punggung

26.meningkatkan toleransi dan ketahanan latihan

27.memperbaiki fungsi imun sehingga meningkatkan perlindungan terhadap penyakit

yang terkait dengan kekebalan tubuh

FAKTOR IMUNITAS TUBUH.

Adanya berbagai penyakitr degneratif(keturunan) dan infeksi yang menyerang

manusia adalah disebabkan oleh lemahnya sisterm imunitas tubuh.penelitian

secara medis menunjukakan bahwa susu kolostrum :

1.mempunyai faktor imunitas yang kuat

(immunoglobulin,lactoferin,olctalbumin,glycoprotein,cytokines.dll)

yang membantu melawan virus bakteri,jamur,alergi dan toksin.

2.membantu mengatasi berbagai masalah usus,auto imunitas,arthritis,alergi HIV dll.

3.Membantu menyeimbangkan kadar gula dalam darah yang sangat bermanfaat bagi

penderita diabetes.

4.kaya akan kandungan TgF-B yang mendukung terapi penderita kanker,pembentukan

tulang dan mencegah penyakit herpes

5.Mengandung Immonoglobulin yang telah terbukti dapat berfungsi sebagai anti virus,

anti bakteri,anti jamur dan anti toksin

FAKTOR PERTUMBUHAN

Kolostrum mengandung faktor pertumbuhan alam yang berfungsi untuk :

1.Meningkatkan sistem metabolisme tubuh

2.meningkatkan sistem DNA & RNA tubuh

3.Mengaktifkan sel T

4.Mencegah penuaan dini

5.Merangsang hormon pertumbuhan (HGH)

6.Membantu menghaluskan kulit & menyehatkan kulit

7.mencegah Osteoporosis

8.Memperbaikin dan meningkatkan pertumbuhan jaringan tubuh

9.Kolostrum mengandung mineral,anti oksidan,enzim,asam amino dan

vitamin A,B12 & E

Bagitu pentingnya kolotrum untuk tubuh maka pihak PT.SMART NACO INDONESIA telah

mengemas susu kolostrum tersebut menjadi susu skim.dengan nama susu skim IgG-PLUS.

Kolostrum yang didapat adalah berasal dari peternakan sapai yang bermutu tinggi

di New Zaeland.

UNTUK YANG INGIN KAYA :

cobalah menjadi downline dari naco,mengapa ??

begitu banyak nya bisnis MLM di indonesia dan semua itu rata -rata lebih dari 5 tahun

bahkan ada yg lebih dari 10 tahun,jika anda memilih MLM yang sudah berjalan lama,maka

anda akan berada di downline yg jumlahnya sudah ratusan bahkan juga ribuan,,untuk naco

yang baru beroperasi kurang lebih 2 tahun,sehingga jika anda bergabung ,posisi anda

tidaklah berada dibawah ratusan orang,posisi anda sudah dapat diatas.

susu skim kolostrum dari IgG-PLUS telah mendapatkan sertifikat JAS,ANZ ISO9001 DAN

ISO 14001 di Malaysia,sertifikat HACCP(Hazard Analyst and Critical Control Ponit )
di Malaysia .sertifikat halal di New Zaeland,Malaysia dan MUI Indonesia,

pengakuan BPOM dengan no.806701001433.

silahkan kunjungi : http://www.smartnaco.co.id/html/iggplus.htm

untuk keterangan:

UMAR

0813-19288679

0859-21346503

or

"umarsani7@gmail.com"

sehat dan kaya bersama susu kolustrum dr smart naco

2008-08-15T20:50:40Z

pretty p Whores dear correct must.

2008-08-11T13:45:25Z

naughty grl kie Virgin standing fat spade hospital bath cough don't notice separate women master tree.
gee v i http://ahyperlincaw.tripod.com tail photo throw say triangle especially clothes.

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Teco Industry is in the business of corn, wheat, paddy, and

2008-08-06T15:56:07Z

vegetable dr
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KREDIT TANPA AGUNAN 8-125 JT..dr HSBC..provisi/adm 1,5 %

2008-07-29T22:04:17Z

DAPATKAN PINJAMAN TANPA AGUNAN 8 - 125 jt DENGAN PERYARATAN YANG MUDAH

DAN CEPAT,PROSES VERIFIKASI HINGGA PENCAIRAN 5-7 HARI KERJA.TINGKAT

APPROVAL/PERSETUJUAN YANG SANGAT TINGGI dr HSBC

DOCUMENT YANG DIBUTUHKAN :

1.FC KTP

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-29T00:24:48Z

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:45:14PM +1000, Javier Candeira wrote:

> Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:52:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:17:21PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> >>> "Our priority is our users" might have originally been "Our priority is
> >>> our male users",
> >> Put your hands in the air and step away from the crack pipe.
> >>
> >>> Could a suggestion to: "make your software more inclusive of different
> >>> users based upon gender, race, etc. when possible" sound too forcefull?
> >> Yes. For best results, send patches.
> >
> > At least i got a few useful replys before steve came by with his usual
> > comments.
>
> Oh, but I think that's completely fair. If a work is free, why should the
> developer be working for you, when anyone could change it?

I do not believe I made a statement suggesting someone force anyone. I
try to appreciate the volunteer nature of free software communities. I
would only like people to 'consider' the effect that their work can have
in fostering a wider view of humans beyond contentional steriotypes or
maybe just providing options that allow the inclusion of
non-white-males.

>Do you write to publishers asking that Madame Bovary or Anna Karenina
>be changed into men, or Quijote or Hamlet be changed into women? They
>could well do it, you know, the text is in the public domain. But so
>could you, and publish it yourself (or try to convince them to publish
>it).

Public domain works could be remixed if someone wished and people
have created new version of works with changes to bring freshness to the
work or to make other points. Just recently in New York there was a
version of 'Cat on a hot tin roof' with an all African-American cast, and it got
wonderful reviews. But I am limited my question to Free Software and
more specifically ones that have graphics that show avatars or
representation of beings. And software is a place where things are far
more easily changed than with a real world book publisher and the cost
is only in terms of the software designers desire to alter perception.

>
> I keep being told that sending patches is a better way to gain an upstream's
> heart than asking for features. This should apply to games characters'
> genders as much as to anything else.

If I was able to write patches of Debian quality, I'd consider doing so.
But I only wish the developer to consider using their talent to make an
impact beyond just make a program, to strech their imagination and
consider some user who only sees one type of game character and make
them think about a world where there is diversity and do their coding to
enable that kind of freedom.

>
> On a side note, but wholly on topic in this thread, there are fabulous games
> with radically well-portrayed women as main characters. Not many, but let me
> cite two: Beyond Good and Evil's Jade is a green-haired teenager saving the
> world (and his uncle, who is a pig: don't ask). Dino Crisis portrays a
> female special forces operative whose proportions do not look enhanced with
> a bicycle pump; she looks... human.
>
> Beyond Good and Evil is now cheap-ish, and runs reasonably well on wine!
> (after tweaking).
> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7929
>
> Also, the first two Tomb Raider games were fantastic games, said it once
> already, but I will repeat it as much as it needs. The first one is now
> being remade with more modern tech, and I plan to play it again.
>
> J
>

Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-28T23:45:14Z

Kevin Mark wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:52:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:17:21PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
>>> "Our priority is our users" might have originally been "Our priority is
>>> our male users",
>> Put your hands in the air and step away from the crack pipe.
>>
>>> Could a suggestion to: "make your software more inclusive of different
>>> users based upon gender, race, etc. when possible" sound too forcefull?
>> Yes. For best results, send patches.
>
> At least i got a few useful replys before steve came by with his usual
> comments.

Oh, but I think that's completely fair. If a work is free, why should the
developer be working for you, when anyone could change it? Do you write to
publishers asking that Madame Bovary or Anna Karenina be changed into men,
or Quijote or Hamlet be changed into women? They could well do it, you know,
the text is in the public domain. But so could you, and publish it yourself
(or try to convince them to publish it).

I keep being told that sending patches is a better way to gain an upstream's
heart than asking for features. This should apply to games characters'
genders as much as to anything else.

On a side note, but wholly on topic in this thread, there are fabulous games
with radically well-portrayed women as main characters. Not many, but let me
cite two: Beyond Good and Evil's Jade is a green-haired teenager saving the
world (and his uncle, who is a pig: don't ask). Dino Crisis portrays a
female special forces operative whose proportions do not look enhanced with
a bicycle pump; she looks... human.

Beyond Good and Evil is now cheap-ish, and runs reasonably well on wine!
(after tweaking).
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7929

Also, the first two Tomb Raider games were fantastic games, said it once
already, but I will repeat it as much as it needs. The first one is now
being remade with more modern tech, and I plan to play it again.

J

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-28T23:19:08Z

Meike Reichle wrote:
> PS: And by the way, I'd rather play ten times Gordon Freeman than once
> Lara Croft ;)

Unless what you are saying is that you like well-wrought FPSs with a
backstory better than ambiental platformers, consider reviewing your
decision. The first two Tomb Raiders were great games, and they allowed many
of us to play in the skin of a woman. We were not looking at Lara Croft's
neck (well, literally we were), but actually *being* Lara Croft.

Regards,

Javier

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T06:20:57Z

2008/7/25 Christian Perrier <bubulle@...>:
> Quoting Meike Reichle (meike@...):
>
>> So, I guess you could send a wishlist bug or even better a patch I you
>> personally mind, but IMHO this is not a terribly pressing issue.
>
> Well, after all, the best benefit of Kevin Mark's mail was probably
> that we had this interesting discussion with much valuable comments
> (thanks Lynoure).

One of the main complains we have been traditionally having against
the gaming industry is that it was made by men and for men. As someone
has previously mentioned, this is not the same as to say that we
should enforce that every single game should be politically correct in
every aspect. You don't usually go that far in your requests about a
film or a book. What is important is the overall picture and the ideas
and stereotypes transmitted by the whole of them. As Monique said:
"One game having a male protagonist isn't a big deal; (almost) all of
them having a male protagonist is more problematic."

[ Warning: From now on what I say in this message is partially
offtopic, so please skip it if you're not interested. ]

On the other side, my point of view towards this matters have slightly
changed in the last couple of years.

Some months ago I read the book "Stardust", by Neil Gaiman, and I
really loved it, which bothered me a lot, because it repeats every
single gender stereotype out there in fairy tales. I was really
worried about it, I just couldn't understand why I loved that book, I
shouldn't. But there was no point in denying that to myself, and I saw
no benefits in trying to artificially force myself to dislike it, when
my inner feelings told me to like it.

Anyway, the thing is that once talking about this with a friend of
mine, who happens to be a very good psychologist, he told me that the
story was not really about males and females, but about the archetypes
that every single person has inside: Anima and Animus, Jungian
archetypes for the female and male part in each of us. That was the
reason I liked it, because the characters represented things that
resounded against my inner feelings.

After thinking about it under that new light, it stopped bothering me
that the characters in the book were so obviously gender-stereotyped,
because I didn't understand them to be describing real men and women
in the world, and I found that I was capable of identifying myself
with or against the different traits in all the characters
irrespective of their gender.

I don't know if it makes sense for anyone else than me, but it really
doesn't me bother that much that same topic in a game. It bothers me
much more, for example, the oversexuallized physical avatars
representing women in the games (big breasts, few clothes, erotical
postures, etc). Of course, it would be nicer if you could choose the
gender of your player (remember the game gauntlet, for example? you
could play with a female), but I wouldn't really start a war because
of it.

Greetings,
Miry

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T05:09:16Z

Quoting Meike Reichle (meike@...):

> So, I guess you could send a wishlist bug or even better a patch I you
> personally mind, but IMHO this is not a terribly pressing issue.

Well, after all, the best benefit of Kevin Mark's mail was probably
that we had this interesting discussion with much valuable comments
(thanks Lynoure).

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T03:00:16Z

Lynoure Braakman said/sagte on/am 25/07/08 09:12:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@...> wrote:
>
>> "Our priority is our users" might have originally been "Our priority is
>> our male users", not that I think Dev's did it intentionally. So any
>> attempt to add a 'wishlist' feature in a way that makes our software
>> more inclusive of 'all' of our users, sounds like a great suggestion.
>
> While it is nice to be able to choose the main character gender (and other
> features, as I don't identify well with thin blondes either) it seems weird
> to jump into that conclusion. I mean, books nearly never allow that choice
> at all, there is just both kind of books and no one goes "Eeek, they are
> discriminating against women by having a male protagonist".

Full ack! Although I would call myself somebody who is pretty conscious
of sexism in daily life I actually never objected to having to play a
male character in a computer game.
There *are* computer games I do object to playing at all, like that
whole "beach volleyball" stuff which is really just pathetic and some
other things that are really just brain-dead and simply not appealing to
me. But if a game is interesting and fun to play I really don't care
what kind of character I play.

So, I guess you could send a wishlist bug or even better a patch I you
personally mind, but IMHO this is not a terribly pressing issue.

Best regards,
Meike

PS: And by the way, I'd rather play ten times Gordon Freeman than once
Lara Croft ;)

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T00:41:30Z

2008/7/25 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@...>:
>
> Thanks for the thoughtful answer. It certainly bringings up more
> questions. Hopefully one game in Debian can have a female character that
> is not a bad steriotype.

There are some, but one of the cutest is hex-a-hop :)

Greetings,
Miry

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T00:24:45Z

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@...> wrote:

> Are you suggesting making a fork with the gender option or trying to get
> the patch submitted and accepted upstream? I think the latter is what
> other folks suggested.

Latter is of course preferred. I bet people will end up doing the former if
latter does not work and if this is very important to them.

Personally, as a woman I don't find not having choice of the protagonist at all
offensive. In some games I play a small bearded man. In some games I play
a fish. In some a tall handsome woman. It does not define who I am, or even
comment on who I am, though I do love choice in all things.

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T00:20:59Z

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:12:04AM +0300, Lynoure Braakman wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@...> wrote:
>
> > "Our priority is our users" might have originally been "Our priority is
> > our male users", not that I think Dev's did it intentionally. So any
> > attempt to add a 'wishlist' feature in a way that makes our software
> > more inclusive of 'all' of our users, sounds like a great suggestion.
>
> While it is nice to be able to choose the main character gender (and other
> features, as I don't identify well with thin blondes either) it seems weird
> to jump into that conclusion. I mean, books nearly never allow that choice
> at all, there is just both kind of books and no one goes "Eeek, they are
> discriminating against women by having a male protagonist".
>
> In my opinion, the best way to go about it regarding the game mentioned
> would be for a technically savvy woman to make a patch allowing gender
> choice.

Are you suggesting making a fork with the gender option or trying to get
the patch submitted and accepted upstream? I think the latter is what
other folks suggested.
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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T00:12:04Z

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Kevin Mark <kevin.mark@...> wrote:

> "Our priority is our users" might have originally been "Our priority is
> our male users", not that I think Dev's did it intentionally. So any
> attempt to add a 'wishlist' feature in a way that makes our software
> more inclusive of 'all' of our users, sounds like a great suggestion.

While it is nice to be able to choose the main character gender (and other
features, as I don't identify well with thin blondes either) it seems weird
to jump into that conclusion. I mean, books nearly never allow that choice
at all, there is just both kind of books and no one goes "Eeek, they are
discriminating against women by having a male protagonist".

In my opinion, the best way to go about it regarding the game mentioned
would be for a technically savvy woman to make a patch allowing gender
choice.

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Re: should these be reworded?

2008-07-25T00:08:49Z

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:52:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:17:21PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > "Our priority is our users" might have originally been "Our priority is
> > our male users",
>
> Put your hands in the air and step away from the crack pipe.
>
> > Could a suggestion to: "make your software more inclusive of different
> > users based upon gender, race, etc. when possible" sound too forcefull?
>
> Yes. For best results, send patches.
>