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Re: Searching for a special application

2008-08-27T09:55:54Z

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:47:57AM -0500, Ozzy Lash wrote:
> Isn't /proc/kcore the contents of the RAM? If so, if you have a
> favorite gui editor/hexdump/... utility that you can use on files, it
> should also work on /proc/kcore.

You do have to be careful poking at that and /dev/mem. After all they
aren't necesarily contiguous. Some addresses are invalid. They aren't
normal files after all.

Imagine you go to read the values at the location where your program is
running? The fact you look at it causes it to change which if the
program keeps looking means it changes again in a cute little loop.

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Re: Searching for a special application

2008-08-27T08:47:57Z

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich <hans.ullrich@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for an application, which is capable to show the contents of the
> RAM (I want to look at special addresses or search the whole address space
> for content).

Isn't /proc/kcore the contents of the RAM? If so, if you have a
favorite gui editor/hexdump/... utility that you can use on files, it
should also work on /proc/kcore.

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Searching for a special application

2008-08-27T04:45:21Z

Hi all,

I am looking for an application, which is capable to show the contents of the
RAM (I want to look at special addresses or search the whole address space
for content).

Does soemone know such a thing ? I searched Google and found "vzfree". It
would be nice, if the tool got this features:

1. run on debian-amd64 (MUST HAVE)
2. graphical interface (nice to have)
3. Free (must run under GPL2 or similar, MUST HAVE)
4. a debian-package is available (nice to have)

I hope, someone knows more. Maybe there is already such a tool in the
repository available but I found none. Maybe there is such tool NOT available
at all.

Thanks for any hints or help !

Best regards

Hans

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Re: vlc not play video

2008-08-27T00:51:51Z

A Dilluns 25 Agost 2008, Mr. P|pex va escriure:

> Hi
> I don't able to find a solution to play some video with vlc.
> the error is
> no suitable decoder module for fourcc `XVID'.
>
> I use testing on amd64, version
> vlc 0.8.6.h-1
>
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Gianluca,

probably you are using the marillat version of vlc. There's a "little"
conflict [1] betwend versions (official and debian-multimedia) so I recommend
you that uninstall the marillat packages and install the "official" ones.

Regards,

Leo

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482894

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vlc not play video

2008-08-25T13:20:18Z

Hi
I don't able to find a solution to play some video with vlc.
the error is
no suitable decoder module for fourcc `XVID'.

I use testing on amd64, version
vlc 0.8.6.h-1

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Compiling xen-3.2 on amd64

2008-08-25T10:24:04Z

Hi all,

this is my first message for the list. I'm looking for help on
compiling xen-3.2 on debian amd64 stable version.
I've installed xen from packages, but couldn't run hvm's on it, so I'm
thinking on compile xen-3.2 from source. Is there any way to compile
xen using the 'debian way' (i.e. make-kpkg)?
Any hint or successful history about compiling xen-3.2 on debian-amd64
would be appreciated.

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Re: nspluginwrapper 1.0, coming soon.

2008-08-23T18:58:12Z

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:30:59AM +0100, Rob Andrews wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I apologise for not getting nspluginwrapper 1.0 into Debian yet. The main
> problem is with "npconfig" (which users call /usr/bin/nspluginwrapper). The
> Debian package patches the binary to install symbolic links to each
> individual plugin directory for each browser, and changes to the npconfig
> tool mean that the patch isn't applying cleanly to the source.
[snip]
>
> This part (the make-nspluginwrapper-runtime part), however, is a tricky one,
> and not without problems. I need to work out the cleanest way of packing up
> non-native binaries for other architectures, and compile binaries for other
> architectures. I've been playing with scratchbox2 and hope this will
> suffice.
>
> In any case, that's the plan of action!

thanks for all the work

>
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nspluginwrapper 1.0, coming soon.

2008-08-23T03:30:59Z

Hi all,

I apologise for not getting nspluginwrapper 1.0 into Debian yet. The main
problem is with "npconfig" (which users call /usr/bin/nspluginwrapper). The
Debian package patches the binary to install symbolic links to each
individual plugin directory for each browser, and changes to the npconfig
tool mean that the patch isn't applying cleanly to the source.

What will happen over the next few days (and few weeks) is this:

Stage 1. Getting 1.0 in.

The next version of nspluginwrapper, 1.0-1 will be a mostly vanilla update
to 0.9.91.5-2. The patch has been reworked to work with the new npconfig
version and will exhibit the same behaviour as the previous version. This
will be a mostly safe update.

I've added debconf support to ask users if they would like plugin loaders
updated on package update. This is mostly for convenience, but you can turn
it off if you like.

Stage 2. Slimming down npconfig, and adding subrevisions.

npconfig is okay, but it does too much to take work away from the user. As a
result, it only installs to directories it knows about, and will not install
a wrapper stub to an arbitrary location. I've been working on stripping out
most of this functionality in order to turn it into a bare plugin creation
tool.

Whilst I'm making changes to this, I'm adding subrevisions to the wrapper
version string. You may notice if you run 'nspluginwrapper -l' that you see:

/home/user/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Original plugin: /home/user/.mozilla/plugins32/libflashplayer.so
Wrapper version string: 0.9.91.5

Since we often add stability patches (e.g. the g_thread initialisation) to
Debian revisions, the version string doesn't accurately represent the "real"
version of the wrapper loader stub. This will change to look something like:

Wrapper version string: 1.0-1

This will mean that on package updates, we can identify what loaders require
updating using npconfig to incorporate changes to the package source, and
avoid leaving old binaries sitting around.

Since npconfig will be stripped down, a new tool will be added to manage the
installation of the binaries and symlinks around the system. This is likely
to be written in shell script, and it will call npconfig to do the dirty
work.

Stage 3. Splitting the package into two (or three, or four as the case may be).

When I initially packaged nspluginwrapper, I intended to roll it out for
both amd64 and ia64 architectures. I failed. ia64 misses some important
parts, like an i386 compiler to make the runtime loader.

Splitting the package into two will create three new packages:
nspluginwrapper: a metapackage depending on the two packages for your system.
nspluginwrapper-wrapper: the browser plugin and npconfig tools.
nspluginwrapper-runtime-i386-slim: a "slim" runtime for i386 on amd64.

The name of the last package isn't finalised yet. It is described as a
"slim" runtime, because Debian amd64 contains everything we already need
to build i386 binaries, and has native libraries as well. As a result, the
package will contain the runtime loader binaries and not much else. But it
will be needed to run i386 binaries on amd64 systems.

nspluginwrapper will become a noarch package (I hope) and
nspluginwrapper-wrapper should be devoid of enough architecture specific
code to build on any architecture and provide the foundations for supporting
running i386 (or other) plugins on any architecture.

What happens then? Well, the intention is to create a
"make-nspluginwrapper-runtime" tool which will create a runtime environment
for the required architecture (mostly i386, since we're mostly dealing with
i386 plugins for which we don't have the source). This will pack up enough
libraries and the runtime loader and you should then be able to run your
favourite plugin on non-amd64 architectures. I have an ARM version of
flashplayer 9 to test with, and a PowerPC machine that I hope to get the
i386 flashplayer to run on. But this shouldn't concern most vanilla amd64
users.

This part (the make-nspluginwrapper-runtime part), however, is a tricky one,
and not without problems. I need to work out the cleanest way of packing up
non-native binaries for other architectures, and compile binaries for other
architectures. I've been playing with scratchbox2 and hope this will
suffice.

In any case, that's the plan of action!

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Re: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-23T02:52:13Z

On 22-Aug-2008 10:43.35 (BST), Michael Fothergill wrote:
> What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64 Lenny?

Hi Mike,

The easiest and most stable way is to use nspluginwrapper, but I don't know
about its standing in lenny (I only push to unstable at the moment, and the
package is migrated automatically back into testing once it has settled in
unstable for a while).

Checking http://packages.debian.org/testing/utils/:

nspluginwrapper (0.9.91.5-2) [contrib]
A wrapper to run Netscape plugins on other architectures

However, on http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/ there is no
flashplugin-nonfree. Which means what whilst nspluginwrapper is there, you
have two choices: Install the plugin by hand or import the package from
unstable (should be fairly simple). I recommend the former.

My advice would be to go:

http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz

Download and unpack it somewhere. Personally, in my environment, I then:

(run this as your normal user)

mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins32 ~/.mozilla/plugins
cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins32/
nspluginwrapper -v -i $HOME/.mozilla/plugins32/libflashplayer.so

This should install the runtime loader stub. Restart your browser and go to
"about:plugins" and you should see something like:

Shockwave Flash

File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0 b218 (or your installed version number)

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

Somewhere in the list. You should be good to go now.

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Re: /usr/sbin/grub 32-bit - why?

2008-08-22T19:24:15Z

Hello List,

is there any advantage to have a 64-bit only kernel ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome

Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> On my testing amd64 system the executable /usr/sbin/grub is 32-bit.
> Why?
> Executing grub-install, therefore, gives an error message with my
> self-compiled 64-bit only kernel.

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Re: /usr/sbin/grub 32-bit - why?

2008-08-22T13:30:04Z

El Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:51:06 +0200
Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@...> escribió:

> On my testing amd64 system the executable /usr/sbin/grub is 32-bit.
> Why?
> Executing grub-install, therefore, gives an error message with my self-compiled
> 64-bit only kernel.

Some time ago I reported this as bug

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=337288

It seems it won't be fixed, grub isn't actively developed

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy.en.html

You should enable ia32 emulation or use the new grub package (1.96)
instead.

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RE: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T12:57:50Z

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> From: cmr@...
> To: debian-amd64@...
> Subject: Re: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:08:37 -0500
>
> Michael,
>
> On Fri 22 August 2008 07:30, Patrick Franz wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> As you can see here
>> (http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=
>>names&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree) the 'flashplugin-nonfree'-package is not
>> available in lenny.
>> The easiest way to use it is to install it from the unstable repository.

I did this and it worked. Thanks a lot.

Michael Fothergill

>>
>>
>> === = ====
>> ____ ____
>> /#/\#\ /#/\#\
>> /#/ \#\ /#/ \#\
>> /#/ patrick \#\
>> /#/ @ \#\
>> /#/ malkin.de \#\
>
> You also can obtain it from backports.org:
>
> deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free
>
> Cheers!
>
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/usr/sbin/grub 32-bit - why?

2008-08-22T12:51:06Z

On my testing amd64 system the executable /usr/sbin/grub is 32-bit.
Why?
Executing grub-install, therefore, gives an error message with my self-compiled
64-bit only kernel.
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Re: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T10:47:50Z

Michael Fothergill wrote:

> What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64 Lenny?
>
On Lenny you can take free and native 64bit gnash and konqueror|
mozilla-plugin-gnash.
http://www.gnashdev.org/

> I tried this from a debian howto web page I found on google but it didn't
> work:
>
> debian:/home/mikef# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

The flashplugin-nonfree for Etch and Sarge look at backports.

Take flashplayer-mozilla for Etch and Lenny from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
instead of flashplugin-nonfree. Both need nspluginwrapper and 32bit libs.

I have flashplugin-nonfree on Etch.

Good Luck
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Re: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T07:08:37Z

Michael,

On Fri 22 August 2008 07:30, Patrick Franz wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
<snip>

>
> [...]
>
> As you can see here
> (http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=
>names&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree) the 'flashplugin-nonfree'-package is not
> available in lenny.
> The easiest way to use it is to install it from the unstable repository.
>
>
> === = ====
> ____ ____
> /#/\#\ /#/\#\
> /#/ \#\ /#/ \#\
> /#/ patrick \#\
> /#/ @ \#\
> /#/ malkin.de \#\

You also can obtain it from backports.org:

deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free

Cheers!

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Re: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T06:18:43Z

Hello Michael,

I had some problems to install the flash plugin in my Lenny machine too.
After some research about this issue, I wrote a little howto in my
blog [1] explaining the installation of the Flash Player 10 plugin
using the nspluginwrapper.

[1] http://blog.pvital.org/2008/05/19/flash-player-10-plugin-working-in-a-64-bit-firefox/

I hope this post help you.

Best regards,
Paulo Vital

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Michael Fothergill
<mikef20000@...> wrote:

> Dear Folks,
>
> (Please excuse the loss of the carriage returns in the previous postings.)
> What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64 Lenny?
> I tried this from a debian howto web page I found on google but it didn't work:
>
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Re: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T05:30:25Z

Hi Michael,

Am Freitag, 22. August 2008 11:43:35 schrieb Michael Fothergill:

> Dear Folks,
>
> What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64
> Lenny?
>
> I tried this from a debian howto web page I found on google but it
> didn't work:
>
> debian:/home/mikef# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by
> another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been
> obsoleted, or is only available from another source
> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
> debian:/home/mikef#
>
> My apt source.list file looks like this:

[...]

As you can see here
(http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree)
the 'flashplugin-nonfree'-package is not available in lenny.
The easiest way to use it is to install it from the unstable repository.

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RE: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T03:10:15Z

Dear Folks,

(Please excuse the loss of the carriage returns in the previous postings.)
What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64 Lenny?
I tried this from a debian howto web page I found on google but it didn't work:

debian:/home/mikef# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
debian:/home/mikef#

My apt source.list file looks like this:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-5 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-4 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary -3 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-2 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-1 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
#deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian testing contrib

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

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RE: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T02:51:36Z

From: mikef20000@...: debian-amd64@...: current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:43:35 +0000

Dear Folks,

(Please excuse the loss of the carriage returns in the previous posting.)What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64 Lenny? I tried this from a debian howto web page I found on google but it didn't work: debian:/home/mikef# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
debian:/home/mikef#

My apt source.list file looks like this:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Bina
ry-1 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-5 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-4 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-3 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-2 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary
-1 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
#deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian testing contrib

Comments appreciated.

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current debian way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64.....

2008-08-22T02:43:35Z

Dear Folks, What is the latest way of installing adobe flashplayer in amd64 Lenny? I tried this from a debian howto web page I found on google but it didn't work: debian:/home/mikef# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate debian:/home/mikef# My apt source.list file looks like this: # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Bina ry-1 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary -5 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary -4 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary -3 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary -2 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary -1 20080407-11:52]/ lenny contrib main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib #deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free #deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian testing contrib Comments appreciated. Regards Michael Fothergill

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Re: Fwd: Events at login

2008-08-11T14:17:12Z

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:09:12AM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:

> In addition to the issue below (still pending as I did not get any
> clue), the system run out of memory during a calculation while trying
> to allocate a small mem segments: "to allocate a shared memory segment
> of 49283072 bytes in size".
>
> Checking
>
> cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmax
> reported 33554432
> while I had set on 18Apr2008 24000000000.
>
> Any trace of setting kernel.shmmax and kernel.shmall had disappeared
> from sysctl.
>
> Of course I had run "sysctlc -p" as proved by not having any memory
> problems in allocation very large mem segments until recently. I have
> nowreallocated shmmax.
>
> Whether or not this issue is related to the one below, both happenen
> without warning on my amd6a.

Well usually /etc/sysctl.conf is where you put such stuff. Of course on
upgrades it will sometimes ask if you want to install a new config file
or keep your existing one or show a diff of the two versions. if you
said yes to that for sysctl.conf at some point, you would have lost your
own additions to that file.

As for the messages on login, check what is in .bashrc and .profile and
such for the user, as well as whether anything weird has been installed
in /etc/profile.d or /etc/profile.

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Re: Heavy bug in kde !

2008-08-11T08:56:47Z

Which version of KDE?

Maybe you had a bad day? There is NOTHING stored outside of ~/.kde or
~/.kde4 which is responsable for a persistent bug like you describeing.

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Fwd: Events at login

2008-08-11T01:09:12Z

In addition to the issue below (still pending as I did not get any
clue), the system run out of memory during a calculation while trying
to allocate a small mem segments: "to allocate a shared memory segment
of 49283072 bytes in size".

Checking

cat /proc/sys/kernel/shmax
reported 33554432
while I had set on 18Apr2008 24000000000.

Any trace of setting kernel.shmmax and kernel.shmall had disappeared
from sysctl.

Of course I had run "sysctlc -p" as proved by not having any memory
problems in allocation very large mem segments until recently. I have
nowreallocated shmmax.

Whether or not this issue is related to the one below, both happenen
without warning on my amd6a.

Thanks
francesco pietra

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From: Francesco Pietra <chiendarret@...>
Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Subject: Events at login
To: amd64 Debian <debian-amd64@...>

Hope this is specific of amd64.

I can't exactly remember when the problem started, probably along with
a compilation. Now, at user login (single user, amd64 lenny, a
NUMA-type multi dual-opteron machine) a long list appears before the
prompt. The list includes:

---"Last login ...date"

---Several lines of "declare -x", each such line for an environmental
variable,including.

That occurs even on no-password slogin from my desktop (this may
trigger some problem when launching calculations from the desktop).
Otherwise, the amd64 machine works properly.

>From where is the list read, and hod to kill that reading?

Thanks

francesco pietra

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Re: What are these packages doing ?

2008-08-08T17:29:19Z

Saturday 09 August 2008, Sandro Tosi wrote :

> > What are these packages good for ?
> >
> > linux-image-amd64
> > linux-image-2.6-amd64
> >
> > Are these meta-packages ? Or are these packages intend to let
> > aptitude or apt-get automatically install the newest
> > kernel-versions ? (If yes, then these are the packages I am looking
> > for)
>
> for sure "linux-image-2.6-amd64" lets you have always the latest 2.6
> kernel for amd64 installed. apt-cache show it and check Depends line:
> it should have (if your machine is enough up-to-date) the version
> 2.6.25-2.

And linux-image-amd64 as a dependance on the latest linux branch (here
linux-image-2.6.amd64). If one day Linux jump to 2.8 version, then
linux-image-amd64 dependance will be modified accordingly.
>
> Kindly,
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Re: What are these packages doing ?

2008-08-08T12:51:49Z

Hi tas,

>>for sure "linux-image-2.6-amd64" lets you have always the latest 2.6
>>kernel for amd64 installed. apt-cache show it and check Depends line:
>>it should have (if your machine is enough up-to-date) the version
>>2.6.25-2.
>
> On etch it will install 2.6.18+6etch3 (2.6.25+14~bpo40+1 from backports is
> also available).

thanks for clarify it! I was referring to sid, while for stable it's
correct what you said. I CCed the list, since it might be of help to
someone else.

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Events at login

2008-08-08T09:48:18Z

Hope this is specific of amd64.

I can't exactly remember when the problem started, probably along with
a compilation. Now, at user login (single user, amd64 lenny, a
NUMA-type multi dual-opteron machine) a long list appears before the
prompt. The list includes:

---"Last login ...date"

---Several lines of "declare -x", each such line for an environmental
variable,including.

That occurs even on no-password slogin from my desktop (this may
trigger some problem when launching calculations from the desktop).
Otherwise, the amd64 machine works properly.

>From where is the list read, and hod to kill that reading?

Thanks

francesco pietra

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Re: What are these packages doing ?

2008-08-08T06:26:19Z

> What are these packages good for ?
>
> linux-image-amd64
> linux-image-2.6-amd64
>
> Are these meta-packages ? Or are these packages intend to let aptitude or
> apt-get automatically install the newest kernel-versions ? (If yes, then
> these are the packages I am looking for)

for sure "linux-image-2.6-amd64" lets you have always the latest 2.6
kernel for amd64 installed. apt-cache show it and check Depends line:
it should have (if your machine is enough up-to-date) the version
2.6.25-2.

Kindly,
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What are these packages doing ?

2008-08-08T06:10:27Z

Hello !

What are these packages good for ?

linux-image-amd64
linux-image-2.6-amd64

Are these meta-packages ? Or are these packages intend to let aptitude or
apt-get automatically install the newest kernel-versions ? (If yes, then
these are the packages I am looking for)

Regards

Hans

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Re: 2.6.25-2 and xfs

2008-08-07T06:33:07Z

yup thats what i did

it seems to reduce the initramfs file size, which keeps lilo happy

Dean

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:14:11 +0200, "Sandro Tosi" <matrixhasu@...>
wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 14:11, Dean Hamstead <dean@...> wrote:
>> thats exactly the problem, and it occured on 2.6.25-1 for me also, but i
>> didnt worry about it then as i figured the next build would fix it
>>
>> obviously this person is using resier rather than xfs.
>
> I got /boot on / + LVM + xfs + lilo + 2.6.2x :)
>
> waht you have to do is put the MODULES=dep in /etc/initram*/init*conf
> (don't remember the name) then regenerate the initramdisk(if you use
> lilo, then run "lilo") and reboot.
>
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Re: 2.6.25-2 and xfs

2008-08-07T05:14:11Z

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 14:11, Dean Hamstead <dean@...> wrote:
> thats exactly the problem, and it occured on 2.6.25-1 for me also, but i
> didnt worry about it then as i figured the next build would fix it
>
> obviously this person is using resier rather than xfs.

I got /boot on / + LVM + xfs + lilo + 2.6.2x :)

waht you have to do is put the MODULES=dep in /etc/initram*/init*conf
(don't remember the name) then regenerate the initramdisk(if you use
lilo, then run "lilo") and reboot.

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Re: 2.6.25-2 and xfs

2008-08-07T05:11:25Z

thats exactly the problem, and it occured on 2.6.25-1 for me also, but i
didnt worry about it then as i figured the next build would fix it

obviously this person is using resier rather than xfs.

ill see if i can get somewhere with this.

Dean

Sandro Tosi wrote:

> Hi Dean,
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 06:10, Dean Hamstead <dean@...> wrote:
>> is anyone else having VFS boot problems with 2.6.25-2?
>>
>> i have tried reconfiguring the kernel package and re-running lilo.
>
> could
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=479101
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486582
>
> help you (it's better if you give us some more clues about your
> problem)? If it's the first, I can boot after MODULES=dep and recreate
> the initramdisk.
>
> Sandro
>

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