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Windows login username required at server endHello, I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login
username in my application on JBoss. I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far
whatever I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain controller. What I need is not authentication with the domain
controller. I just need access to the username with which the user has logged
in to the windows machine. My application assumes that if the user has successfully
logged in, he is a valid user. Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any
help in this regard is highly appreciated. Thanking everyone in advance, Abhi |
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Re: Windows login username required at server endHi Abhi,
I'm not a specialist, but as far as I understand, JCIFS performs a domain authentication. I remember using some native code that did what you are describing. The advantage of JCIFS is that you are platform independant. As soon as you introduce native code, you get stuck with the operating system. Is there any reason why you don't want to do a domain authentication? Yannick Abhijit Karpe wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in my > application on JBoss. > > I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far whatever > I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain controller. > > > > What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I just > need access to the username with which the user has logged in to the > windows machine. > > My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged in, he > is a valid user. > > > > Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? > > > > If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any help > in this regard is highly appreciated. > > > > Thanking everyone in advance, > > Abhi > |
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RE: Windows login username required at server endHello Yannick,
Thanks for your quick response. In my case domain authentication is immaterial so I would rather avoid it. For me a user who is successfully logged in to the windows machine (which is in a secured network) is secure enough to give him access to my application. It is sort of an SSO support. Also I need to find the authorization information for the user from my application database. For this purpose I need the username. It would be really helpful if anyone could point me to some detailed documentation on how JCIFS internally works. In that case I would either be able to extend the behavior to support my requirement or maybe even write the code that would suffice. Thanks again for your response! ~ Abhi -----Original Message----- From: Yannick Lavanant [mailto:yannick@...] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:14 PM To: Abhijit Karpe Cc: jcifs@... Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end Hi Abhi, I'm not a specialist, but as far as I understand, JCIFS performs a domain authentication. I remember using some native code that did what you are describing. The advantage of JCIFS is that you are platform independant. As soon as you introduce native code, you get stuck with the operating system. Is there any reason why you don't want to do a domain authentication? Yannick Abhijit Karpe wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in my > application on JBoss. > > I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far whatever > I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain controller. > > > > What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I just > need access to the username with which the user has logged in to the > windows machine. > > My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged in, he > is a valid user. > > > > Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? > > > > If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any help > in this regard is highly appreciated. > > > > Thanking everyone in advance, > > Abhi > |
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Re: Windows login username required at server endWell, there is a class called jcifs.http.NTLMHttpFilter that you should
be able to extend. You could then override some methods to stop the authentication. Then of course, change you web.xml to use the new filter class. I'm not sure how doable that is, but your best bet is to read the filter class and see what you can do with it. There are a lot of message exchange going on between the client and the server during the authentication. So if you manage to intercept that process at the right time, you might be able to do what you want. Regards Yannick Abhijit Karpe wrote: > Hello Yannick, > > Thanks for your quick response. > > In my case domain authentication is immaterial so I would rather avoid > it. For me a user who is successfully logged in to the windows machine > (which is in a secured network) is secure enough to give him access to > my application. It is sort of an SSO support. > Also I need to find the authorization information for the user from my > application database. For this purpose I need the username. > > It would be really helpful if anyone could point me to some detailed > documentation on how JCIFS internally works. In that case I would either > be able to extend the behavior to support my requirement or maybe even > write the code that would suffice. > > Thanks again for your response! > > ~ > Abhi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yannick Lavanant [mailto:yannick@...] > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:14 PM > To: Abhijit Karpe > Cc: jcifs@... > Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end > > Hi Abhi, > > I'm not a specialist, but as far as I understand, JCIFS performs a > domain authentication. > > I remember using some native code that did what you are describing. > The advantage of JCIFS is that you are platform independant. As soon as > you introduce native code, you get stuck with the operating system. > > Is there any reason why you don't want to do a domain authentication? > > Yannick > > Abhijit Karpe wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in my >> application on JBoss. >> >> I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far whatever >> I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain controller. >> >> >> >> What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I just >> need access to the username with which the user has logged in to the >> windows machine. >> >> My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged in, he >> > > >> is a valid user. >> >> >> >> Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? >> >> >> >> If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any help >> in this regard is highly appreciated. >> >> >> >> Thanking everyone in advance, >> >> Abhi >> >> > > > |
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Re: Windows login username required at server endCan you get the username from the environment (e.g. using System.getenv())?
On 6/5/08, Abhijit Karpe <abhijitk@...> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in my > application on JBoss. > > I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far whatever I do, > JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain controller. > > > > What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I just need > access to the username with which the user has logged in to the windows > machine. > > My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged in, he is a > valid user. > > > > Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? > > > > If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any help in this > regard is highly appreciated. > > > > Thanking everyone in advance, > > Abhi -- Michael B Allen PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO http://www.ioplex.com/ |
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RE: Windows login username required at server endHello AJ,
Thanks a lot for your timely responses. Since I am a newbie please bear with my questions. As I understand, there will be 3 Messages transferred during this process to authenticate the user and I can break the chain wherever I want so that the authentication does not proceed further. For this I assume the application will popup a dialog box asking for username and password. But since I only need the username from the client machine, I don't want such a popup box to appear. The username should be silently passed on from the client machine to server without the user being provided with a dialogue box. I tried a sample application using JCIFS and it shows a popup. However I observed that even when the popup appears, the following line is shown on the jboss console - 10:09:09,796 ERROR [STDERR] NtlmHttpFilter: MYDOMAIN\abhijitk: 0xC0000022: j cifs.smb.SmbAuthException: Access is denied. This essentially means that before even showing the popup, JCIFS was able to extract the username from client. Could you please point me to how I can just get hold of this username? Deeply appreciate your help! Thanks, Abhi -----Original Message----- From: aweber@... [mailto:aweber@...] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:06 AM To: Yannick Lavanant; Abhijit Karpe Cc: jcifs@... Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end (Re-reading that email...if you need the username -- not the domain that I was going on about -- you'll need to send the Type 2 message back to the client and retrieve the Type 3 message, which contains the Username. At that point, you can retrieve it from that helper-class and discard the message; don't bother actually then sending it for authentication to the domain controllers.) Sorry for the confusion, AJ -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: aweber@... > Right, if you use the beginning-part of the filter, you'll want to send the > browser the 401 with the Authenticate: NTLM (see actual code). The > client/browers should send you back an NTLM "Type 1 Message". > > There is a helper-class you can use to read the properties of that message > returned from the client. One is the Domain. It _should_ be the domain to > which the user is currently authenticated. > > Again, this isn't highly secure, but given your requirements to NOT > re-authenticate the user (which, BTW would be transparent for IE browsers, and > just add some security to the mix), it should be what you need. If you allow > the whole filter to continue, it'll do all three messages and attempt to > authenticate the user against the PDC or BDC again. If you cut-out the code > after you receive the Type 1 message, you'll be left with access to that > message's properties (including the Domain), and you can go on from there how > ever your solution requires. > > -AJ > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Yannick Lavanant <yannick@...> > > Well, there is a class called jcifs.http.NTLMHttpFilter that you should > > be able to extend. You could then override some methods to stop the > > authentication. Then of course, change you web.xml to use the new filter > > class. > > > > I'm not sure how doable that is, but your best bet is to read the filter > > class and see what you can do with it. > > > > There are a lot of message exchange going on between the client and the > > server during the authentication. So if you manage to intercept that > > process at the right time, you might be able to do what you want. > > > > Regards > > Yannick > > > > Abhijit Karpe wrote: > > > Hello Yannick, > > > > > > Thanks for your quick response. > > > > > > In my case domain authentication is immaterial so I would rather > > > it. For me a user who is successfully logged in to the windows machine > > > (which is in a secured network) is secure enough to give him access to > > > my application. It is sort of an SSO support. > > > Also I need to find the authorization information for the user from my > > > application database. For this purpose I need the username. > > > > > > It would be really helpful if anyone could point me to some detailed > > > documentation on how JCIFS internally works. In that case I would either > > > be able to extend the behavior to support my requirement or maybe even > > > write the code that would suffice. > > > > > > Thanks again for your response! > > > > > > ~ > > > Abhi > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Yannick Lavanant [mailto:yannick@...] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:14 PM > > > To: Abhijit Karpe > > > Cc: jcifs@... > > > Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end > > > > > > Hi Abhi, > > > > > > I'm not a specialist, but as far as I understand, JCIFS performs a > > > domain authentication. > > > > > > I remember using some native code that did what you are describing. > > > The advantage of JCIFS is that you are platform independant. As soon as > > > you introduce native code, you get stuck with the operating system. > > > > > > Is there any reason why you don't want to do a domain authentication? > > > > > > Yannick > > > > > > Abhijit Karpe wrote: > > > > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in > > >> application on JBoss. > > >> > > >> I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far whatever > > >> I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain controller. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I just > > >> need access to the username with which the user has logged in to the > > >> windows machine. > > >> > > >> My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged in, he > > >> > > > > > > > > >> is a valid user. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any > > >> in this regard is highly appreciated. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanking everyone in advance, > > >> > > >> Abhi > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Re: Windows login username required at server endHi Abhi,
You can avoid the popup box by adding your webserver as a trusted server in either IE or Firefox. IE: Tools/internet options Security tab Local Intranet-> Click the Sites button -> the advanced button, type the address of your server and press Add. Firefox: Type about:config in the address bar (No http:// before this) And look for network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris Double click on the preference and type the address of your server I am using jcifs on our intranet, and the users never have to type their password to login. You can add a security policy to add the webserver in the correct security zone for IE. For Firefox, you'll need the users to do it manually. Regards Yannick Abhijit Karpe wrote: > Hello AJ, > > Thanks a lot for your timely responses. > > Since I am a newbie please bear with my questions. > > As I understand, there will be 3 Messages transferred during this > process to authenticate the user and I can break the chain wherever I > want so that the authentication does not proceed further. For this I > assume the application will popup a dialog box asking for username and > password. > > But since I only need the username from the client machine, I don't want > such a popup box to appear. The username should be silently passed on > from the client machine to server without the user being provided with a > dialogue box. > > I tried a sample application using JCIFS and it shows a popup. However I > observed that even when the popup appears, the following line is shown > on the jboss console - > > 10:09:09,796 ERROR [STDERR] NtlmHttpFilter: MYDOMAIN\abhijitk: > 0xC0000022: j > cifs.smb.SmbAuthException: Access is denied. > > This essentially means that before even showing the popup, JCIFS was > able to extract the username from client. > > Could you please point me to how I can just get hold of this username? > > Deeply appreciate your help! > > Thanks, > Abhi > > -----Original Message----- > From: aweber@... [mailto:aweber@...] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:06 AM > To: Yannick Lavanant; Abhijit Karpe > Cc: jcifs@... > Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end > > (Re-reading that email...if you need the username -- not the domain that > I was going on about -- you'll need to send the Type 2 message back to > the client and retrieve the Type 3 message, which contains the Username. > At that point, you can retrieve it from that helper-class and discard > the message; don't bother actually then sending it for authentication to > the domain controllers.) > > Sorry for the confusion, > AJ > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: aweber@... > >> Right, if you use the beginning-part of the filter, you'll want to >> > send the > >> browser the 401 with the Authenticate: NTLM (see actual code). The >> client/browers should send you back an NTLM "Type 1 Message". >> >> There is a helper-class you can use to read the properties of that >> > message > >> returned from the client. One is the Domain. It _should_ be the >> > domain to > >> which the user is currently authenticated. >> >> Again, this isn't highly secure, but given your requirements to NOT >> re-authenticate the user (which, BTW would be transparent for IE >> > browsers, and > >> just add some security to the mix), it should be what you need. If >> > you allow > >> the whole filter to continue, it'll do all three messages and attempt >> > to > >> authenticate the user against the PDC or BDC again. If you cut-out >> > the code > >> after you receive the Type 1 message, you'll be left with access to >> > that > >> message's properties (including the Domain), and you can go on from >> > there how > >> ever your solution requires. >> >> -AJ >> >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: Yannick Lavanant <yannick@...> >> >>> Well, there is a class called jcifs.http.NTLMHttpFilter that you >>> > should > >>> be able to extend. You could then override some methods to stop the >>> authentication. Then of course, change you web.xml to use the new >>> > filter > >>> class. >>> >>> I'm not sure how doable that is, but your best bet is to read the >>> > filter > >>> class and see what you can do with it. >>> >>> There are a lot of message exchange going on between the client and >>> > the > >>> server during the authentication. So if you manage to intercept that >>> > > >>> process at the right time, you might be able to do what you want. >>> >>> Regards >>> Yannick >>> >>> Abhijit Karpe wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Yannick, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your quick response. >>>> >>>> In my case domain authentication is immaterial so I would rather >>>> > avoid > >>>> it. For me a user who is successfully logged in to the windows >>>> > machine > >>>> (which is in a secured network) is secure enough to give him >>>> > access to > >>>> my application. It is sort of an SSO support. >>>> Also I need to find the authorization information for the user >>>> > from my > >>>> application database. For this purpose I need the username. >>>> >>>> It would be really helpful if anyone could point me to some >>>> > detailed > >>>> documentation on how JCIFS internally works. In that case I would >>>> > either > >>>> be able to extend the behavior to support my requirement or maybe >>>> > even > >>>> write the code that would suffice. >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your response! >>>> >>>> ~ >>>> Abhi >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Yannick Lavanant [mailto:yannick@...] >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:14 PM >>>> To: Abhijit Karpe >>>> Cc: jcifs@... >>>> Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end >>>> >>>> Hi Abhi, >>>> >>>> I'm not a specialist, but as far as I understand, JCIFS performs a >>>> > > >>>> domain authentication. >>>> >>>> I remember using some native code that did what you are >>>> > describing. > >>>> The advantage of JCIFS is that you are platform independant. As >>>> > soon as > >>>> you introduce native code, you get stuck with the operating >>>> > system. > >>>> Is there any reason why you don't want to do a domain >>>> > authentication? > >>>> Yannick >>>> >>>> Abhijit Karpe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in >>>>> > my > >>>>> application on JBoss. >>>>> >>>>> I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far >>>>> > whatever > >>>>> I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain >>>>> > controller. > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I >>>>> > just > >>>>> need access to the username with which the user has logged in to >>>>> > the > >>>>> windows machine. >>>>> >>>>> My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged >>>>> > in, he > >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> is a valid user. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any >>>>> > help > >>>>> in this regard is highly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanking everyone in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Abhi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> > > > |
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RE: Windows login username required at server endHi Yannick,AJ,
Thanks for your help. I have currently decided to extend the NtlmHttpFilter and achieve my requirements. Also I may require to use the Trusted Site setting for my server. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks for your response and help! Regards, Abhi -----Original Message----- From: Yannick Lavanant [mailto:yannick@...] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:03 PM To: Abhijit Karpe Cc: jcifs@... Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end Hi Abhi, You can avoid the popup box by adding your webserver as a trusted server in either IE or Firefox. IE: Tools/internet options Security tab Local Intranet-> Click the Sites button -> the advanced button, type the address of your server and press Add. Firefox: Type about:config in the address bar (No http:// before this) And look for network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris Double click on the preference and type the address of your server I am using jcifs on our intranet, and the users never have to type their password to login. You can add a security policy to add the webserver in the correct security zone for IE. For Firefox, you'll need the users to do it manually. Regards Yannick Abhijit Karpe wrote: > Hello AJ, > > Thanks a lot for your timely responses. > > Since I am a newbie please bear with my questions. > > As I understand, there will be 3 Messages transferred during this > process to authenticate the user and I can break the chain wherever I > want so that the authentication does not proceed further. For this I > assume the application will popup a dialog box asking for username and > password. > > But since I only need the username from the client machine, I don't > such a popup box to appear. The username should be silently passed on > from the client machine to server without the user being provided with a > dialogue box. > > I tried a sample application using JCIFS and it shows a popup. However I > observed that even when the popup appears, the following line is shown > on the jboss console - > > 10:09:09,796 ERROR [STDERR] NtlmHttpFilter: MYDOMAIN\abhijitk: > 0xC0000022: j > cifs.smb.SmbAuthException: Access is denied. > > This essentially means that before even showing the popup, JCIFS was > able to extract the username from client. > > Could you please point me to how I can just get hold of this username? > > Deeply appreciate your help! > > Thanks, > Abhi > > -----Original Message----- > From: aweber@... [mailto:aweber@...] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:06 AM > To: Yannick Lavanant; Abhijit Karpe > Cc: jcifs@... > Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end > > (Re-reading that email...if you need the username -- not the domain > I was going on about -- you'll need to send the Type 2 message back to > the client and retrieve the Type 3 message, which contains the Username. > At that point, you can retrieve it from that helper-class and discard > the message; don't bother actually then sending it for authentication to > the domain controllers.) > > Sorry for the confusion, > AJ > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: aweber@... > >> Right, if you use the beginning-part of the filter, you'll want to >> > send the > >> browser the 401 with the Authenticate: NTLM (see actual code). The >> client/browers should send you back an NTLM "Type 1 Message". >> >> There is a helper-class you can use to read the properties of that >> > message > >> returned from the client. One is the Domain. It _should_ be the >> > domain to > >> which the user is currently authenticated. >> >> Again, this isn't highly secure, but given your requirements to NOT >> re-authenticate the user (which, BTW would be transparent for IE >> > browsers, and > >> just add some security to the mix), it should be what you need. If >> > you allow > >> the whole filter to continue, it'll do all three messages and attempt >> > to > >> authenticate the user against the PDC or BDC again. If you cut-out >> > the code > >> after you receive the Type 1 message, you'll be left with access to >> > that > >> message's properties (including the Domain), and you can go on from >> > there how > >> ever your solution requires. >> >> -AJ >> >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: Yannick Lavanant <yannick@...> >> >>> Well, there is a class called jcifs.http.NTLMHttpFilter that you >>> > should > >>> be able to extend. You could then override some methods to stop the >>> authentication. Then of course, change you web.xml to use the new >>> > filter > >>> class. >>> >>> I'm not sure how doable that is, but your best bet is to read the >>> > filter > >>> class and see what you can do with it. >>> >>> There are a lot of message exchange going on between the client and >>> > the > >>> server during the authentication. So if you manage to intercept that >>> > > >>> process at the right time, you might be able to do what you want. >>> >>> Regards >>> Yannick >>> >>> Abhijit Karpe wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Yannick, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your quick response. >>>> >>>> In my case domain authentication is immaterial so I would rather >>>> > avoid > >>>> it. For me a user who is successfully logged in to the windows >>>> > machine > >>>> (which is in a secured network) is secure enough to give him >>>> > access to > >>>> my application. It is sort of an SSO support. >>>> Also I need to find the authorization information for the user >>>> > from my > >>>> application database. For this purpose I need the username. >>>> >>>> It would be really helpful if anyone could point me to some >>>> > detailed > >>>> documentation on how JCIFS internally works. In that case I would >>>> > either > >>>> be able to extend the behavior to support my requirement or maybe >>>> > even > >>>> write the code that would suffice. >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your response! >>>> >>>> ~ >>>> Abhi >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Yannick Lavanant [mailto:yannick@...] >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:14 PM >>>> To: Abhijit Karpe >>>> Cc: jcifs@... >>>> Subject: Re: [jcifs] Windows login username required at server end >>>> >>>> Hi Abhi, >>>> >>>> I'm not a specialist, but as far as I understand, JCIFS performs a >>>> > > >>>> domain authentication. >>>> >>>> I remember using some native code that did what you are >>>> > describing. > >>>> The advantage of JCIFS is that you are platform independant. As >>>> > soon as > >>>> you introduce native code, you get stuck with the operating >>>> > system. > >>>> Is there any reason why you don't want to do a domain >>>> > authentication? > >>>> Yannick >>>> >>>> Abhijit Karpe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a requirement wherein I need the windows login username in >>>>> > my > >>>>> application on JBoss. >>>>> >>>>> I have been investigating using the JCIFS library but so far >>>>> > whatever > >>>>> I do, JCIFS tries to authenticate the user with the domain >>>>> > controller. > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What I need is not authentication with the domain controller. I >>>>> > just > >>>>> need access to the username with which the user has logged in to >>>>> > the > >>>>> windows machine. >>>>> >>>>> My application assumes that if the user has successfully logged >>>>> > in, he > >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> is a valid user. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can JCIFS help me with my requirement? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If not, does anyone know how I may be able to achieve this? Any >>>>> > help > >>>>> in this regard is highly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanking everyone in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Abhi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> > > > |
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