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by Simon Buchanan :: Rate this Message:

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Hi There,

I have a 2 x SmartUPS 1000s which power to linux boxes (SLES 10.2 and
XenServer). The SLES acts as the master and the XenServer and its
guests are slaves. We also have a Windows Vista client in the same
rack which acts as a media server to the network, this is also a
slave. Everything is working well, except:

My question is, how to you power on the Vista box if the power returns
after its shutdown, but before the battery is fully drained?

Thanks

Simon

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Re: Windows Vista power on

by Rod-7 :: Rate this Message:

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Simon wrote:

> Hi There,
>
> I have a 2 x SmartUPS 1000s which power to linux boxes (SLES 10.2 and
> XenServer). The SLES acts as the master and the XenServer and its
> guests are slaves. We also have a Windows Vista client in the same
> rack which acts as a media server to the network, this is also a
> slave. Everything is working well, except:
>
> My question is, how to you power on the Vista box if the power returns
> after its shutdown, but before the battery is fully drained?
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon
>  
    Do you have a option in BIOS in the power management area, so it
returns to the last state (if it was on it turns on, if it was off it
stays off) or power on once power restored?

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Re: Windows Vista power on

by Johan Draaisma :: Rate this Message:

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Rod wrote:
Simon wrote:
  
Hi There,

I have a 2 x SmartUPS 1000s which power to linux boxes (SLES 10.2 and
XenServer). The SLES acts as the master and the XenServer and its
guests are slaves. We also have a Windows Vista client in the same
rack which acts as a media server to the network, this is also a
slave. Everything is working well, except:

My question is, how to you power on the Vista box if the power returns
after its shutdown, but before the battery is fully drained?

Thanks

Simon
  
    
    Do you have a option in BIOS in the power management area, so it 
returns to the last state (if it was on it turns on, if it was off it 
stays off) or power on once power restored?
  
Make sure you choose  the option to power the computer on immediately after AC power is provided to the computer.

The other option you mentioned won't work, because if the UPS is running on battery, and the battery is nearly depleted, it will send a signal to the Vista machine to shut down. Vista will then shut down the computer and the power state is then set to off. If you then remove AC power and return it to the computer again, it will stay off.


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Re: Windows Vista power on

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From: "Johan Draaisma" <johan@...>
Sent: Saturday, 2008, July 05 02:59


> Rod wrote:
> Simon wrote:
>  Hi There,
>
> I have a 2 x SmartUPS 1000s which power to linux boxes (SLES 10.2 and
> XenServer). The SLES acts as the master and the XenServer and its
> guests are slaves. We also have a Windows Vista client in the same
> rack which acts as a media server to the network, this is also a
> slave. Everything is working well, except:
>
> My question is, how to you power on the Vista box if the power returns
> after its shutdown, but before the battery is fully drained?
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon
>
>        Do you have a option in BIOS in the power management area, so it
> returns to the last state (if it was on it turns on, if it was off it
> stays off) or power on once power restored?
>  Make sure you choose  the option to power the computer on immediately
> after AC power is provided to the computer.
>
> The other option you mentioned won't work, because if the UPS is running
> on battery, and the battery is nearly depleted, it will send a signal to
> the Vista machine to shut down. Vista will then shut down the computer and
> the power state is then set to off. If you then remove AC power and return
> it to the computer again, it will stay off.

Wake up on network activity?

{^_^}


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Re: Windows Vista power on

by Johan Draaisma :: Rate this Message:

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jdow wrote:
From: "Johan Draaisma" johan@...
Sent: Saturday, 2008, July 05 02:59


  
Rod wrote:
Simon wrote:
 Hi There,

I have a 2 x SmartUPS 1000s which power to linux boxes (SLES 10.2 and
XenServer). The SLES acts as the master and the XenServer and its
guests are slaves. We also have a Windows Vista client in the same
rack which acts as a media server to the network, this is also a
slave. Everything is working well, except:

My question is, how to you power on the Vista box if the power returns
after its shutdown, but before the battery is fully drained?

Thanks

Simon

       Do you have a option in BIOS in the power management area, so it
returns to the last state (if it was on it turns on, if it was off it
stays off) or power on once power restored?
 Make sure you choose  the option to power the computer on immediately 
after AC power is provided to the computer.

The other option you mentioned won't work, because if the UPS is running 
on battery, and the battery is nearly depleted, it will send a signal to 
the Vista machine to shut down. Vista will then shut down the computer and 
the power state is then set to off. If you then remove AC power and return 
it to the computer again, it will stay off.
    

Wake up on network activity?

{^_^} 

  
You might, but I wouldn't count on the computer doing that ;o)

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Re: Windows Vista power on

by Simon Buchanan :: Rate this Message:

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On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Rod <Rod@...> wrote:

>>
>    Do you have a option in BIOS in the power management area, so it
> returns to the last state (if it was on it turns on, if it was off it
> stays off) or power on once power restored?

yes - all the servers and the Vista box have the bios option set...
but in my senario the power does not acually go off, as the UPS would
not be drained before the power came back on.

1. Power Goes Off
2. UPS drains to say 10%
3. Vista box shuts down
4. UPS drains to 5%
5. Power comes back on.

In this case UPS would not acually cut the power to the computer, so
the BIOS would not regsiter the power recovery.

Any thoughts?

Simon

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Re: Windows Vista power on

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On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 09:32:16AM +1200, Simon scribbled
 in "Re: [Apcupsd-users] Windows Vista power on":

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Rod <Rod@...> wrote:
>
> >>
> >    Do you have a option in BIOS in the power management area, so it
> > returns to the last state (if it was on it turns on, if it was off it
> > stays off) or power on once power restored?
>
> yes - all the servers and the Vista box have the bios option set...
> but in my senario the power does not acually go off, as the UPS would
> not be drained before the power came back on.
>
> 1. Power Goes Off
> 2. UPS drains to say 10%
> 3. Vista box shuts down
> 4. UPS drains to 5%
> 5. Power comes back on.
>
> In this case UPS would not acually cut the power to the computer, so
> the BIOS would not regsiter the power recovery.
>
> Any thoughts?

The way we manage this is to have at least one "server" running all
the time, doesn't get shutdown by the UPS, and has wakeonlan utils
installed.

A small embedded box is perfect for this scenario, as they usually
draw very little power, and can easily run a cut down *nix with sshd
and something like etherwake installed.  With apcupsd installed a
power return event could fire a script to send magic packets to all
the boxes you want re-started.

Cheers.

Dameon.



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