Wikimania2008 Sessions online

[Moushira Elamrawy]

Dears,

Greetings from Alex!

Some Wikimania2008 sessions are now available on-line. Thanks for Bibalex
ICT team for recording all session, and thanks to Kaltura team that was
on-site for uploading material and setting the page layout, here:

http://www.kaltura.com/devwiki/index.php/Wikimania_Sessions

To review keynote and invited session, kindly go to
http://webcast.bibalex.org/home/home.aspx, a hint for Firefox on lunix
users, is found here: http://linuxawy.org/node/28


more to come on WikiCommons..


Enjoy,
Moushira


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[Bryan Tong Minh]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Moushira Elamrawy <moushirah@...> wrote:

> Dears,
>
> Greetings from Alex!
>
> Some Wikimania2008 sessions are now available on-line. Thanks for Bibalex
> ICT team for recording all session, and thanks to Kaltura team that was
> on-site for uploading material and setting the page layout, here:
>
> http://www.kaltura.com/devwiki/index.php/Wikimania_Sessions
>
> To review keynote and invited session, kindly go to
> http://webcast.bibalex.org/home/home.aspx, a hint for Firefox on lunix
> users, is found here: http://linuxawy.org/node/28
>
>
> more to come on WikiCommons..
>
>
> Enjoy,
> Moushira
>

Hello,

How do I download videos from Kaltura?

Bryan

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[Gregory Maxwell]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Moushira Elamrawy <moushirah@...> wrote:

> Dears,
>
> Greetings from Alex!
>
> Some Wikimania2008 sessions are now available on-line. Thanks for Bibalex
> ICT team for recording all session, and thanks to Kaltura team that was
> on-site for uploading material and setting the page layout, here:
>
> http://www.kaltura.com/devwiki/index.php/Wikimania_Sessions
>
> To review keynote and invited session, kindly go to
> http://webcast.bibalex.org/home/home.aspx, a hint for Firefox on lunix
> users, is found here: http://linuxawy.org/node/28

I couldn't play these without installing non-free software and I can
not play them at all on the non-x86 platform I'm using at the moment,
because the proprietary software is not provided except for x86.  ...
in fact,  nothing at all is displaying on that page, so I can't figure
out how to download the files (if they are downloadable at all)

It appears that the videos are embedded by embedding flash movies
provided by a non-mediawiki kaltura server at kaltura.com and that the
kaltura extension still works just like the youtube embedding
extension.   At least when embedding youtube there are well known ways
of downloading the files.

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[Brion Vibber-3]

Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> I couldn't play these without installing non-free software and I can
> not play them at all on the non-x86 platform I'm using at the moment,
> because the proprietary software is not provided except for x86.  ...
> in fact,  nothing at all is displaying on that page, so I can't figure
> out how to download the files (if they are downloadable at all)
>
> It appears that the videos are embedded by embedding flash movies
> provided by a non-mediawiki kaltura server at kaltura.com and that the
> kaltura extension still works just like the youtube embedding
> extension.

Indeed, these are precisely the reasons that Wikimedia *doesn't use*
Kaltura's extension or other similar systems today -- in their current
state, based on proprietary codecs and plugins, they simply don't meet
our requirements for open access.

I can't get the videos to play on my proprietary Mac either, though, so
don't feel left out. ;)


Note that Kaltura is now sponsoring Michael Dale's continued work on
advanced video support in MediaWiki. They're not *evil*, they just
didn't create their system with the same needs we have in mind.

Michael has long been working on MetaVid, based very heavily on Ogg
Theora to ensure openness, and will be both improving our basic
Ogg-playing capabilities and creating a truly open version of the online
editing interfaces that Kaltura's current stuff provides.

http://metavid.ucsc.edu/

-- brion

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[David Gerard-2]

2008/7/21 Brion Vibber <brion@...>:

> Michael has long been working on MetaVid, based very heavily on Ogg
> Theora to ensure openness, and will be both improving our basic
> Ogg-playing capabilities and creating a truly open version of the online
> editing interfaces that Kaltura's current stuff provides.


Note that Wikimedia Commons could be one of the largest Theora-only
video repositories on the net, particularly if/when we get enough
backed-up disk space on the image server for Commons to really get
into it. It'd be nice to say "Oh, your Nokia doesn't support Theora?
Sucks to be you, looking up Wikipedia in the pub. You shoulda got an
OpenMoko."


- d.

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[White Cat]

You know, those videos should be converted to .ogg format and uplaoded to
commons. An audio only version should also be uploaded.

Due to the 20 MB limit only you developers can probably upload it. ;)

   - White Cat

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Brion Vibber <brion@...> wrote:

> Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> > I couldn't play these without installing non-free software and I can
> > not play them at all on the non-x86 platform I'm using at the moment,
> > because the proprietary software is not provided except for x86.  ...
> > in fact,  nothing at all is displaying on that page, so I can't figure
> > out how to download the files (if they are downloadable at all)
> >
> > It appears that the videos are embedded by embedding flash movies
> > provided by a non-mediawiki kaltura server at kaltura.com and that the
> > kaltura extension still works just like the youtube embedding
> > extension.
>
> Indeed, these are precisely the reasons that Wikimedia *doesn't use*
> Kaltura's extension or other similar systems today -- in their current
> state, based on proprietary codecs and plugins, they simply don't meet
> our requirements for open access.
>
> I can't get the videos to play on my proprietary Mac either, though, so
> don't feel left out. ;)
>
>
> Note that Kaltura is now sponsoring Michael Dale's continued work on
> advanced video support in MediaWiki. They're not *evil*, they just
> didn't create their system with the same needs we have in mind.
>
> Michael has long been working on MetaVid, based very heavily on Ogg
> Theora to ensure openness, and will be both improving our basic
> Ogg-playing capabilities and creating a truly open version of the online
> editing interfaces that Kaltura's current stuff provides.
>
> http://metavid.ucsc.edu/
>
> -- brion
>
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