Where to get more tech specs?

Hi all

 

Long times ago I was able to obtain from some NetApp guys documentation that regarded detailed tech specs of filer appliances with data on performances such us iops, throughput and so on with also comparison between models both from NetApp and competitor too. The data regarded NAS ans SAN (iSCSI and FCP) aspects.

 

Do you know if there are available docs on new filers?

 

Sometime it happens that customers ask us for comparison charts (i.e. now we could need data for IBM DS8000 storage and FAS3xxx and/or 6xxx filers regarding SAN FCP performances)

 

regards

You could look at specfs numbers (there’s an organization that publishes this), and you can get the docs you’ve already seen from your sales team.  It’s not something that is typically given to customers.  Check with your sales team (Channel perhaps?).

 

Glenn

 

 

Hi all

 

Long times ago I was able to obtain from some NetApp guys documentation that regarded detailed tech specs of filer appliances with data on performances such us iops, throughput and so on with also comparison between models both from NetApp and competitor too. The data regarded NAS ans SAN (iSCSI and FCP) aspects.

 

Do you know if there are available docs on new filers?

 

Sometime it happens that customers ask us for comparison charts (i.e. now we could need data for IBM DS8000 storage and FAS3xxx and/or 6xxx filers regarding SAN FCP performances)

 

regards

I perfectly agree and I can add that “numbers alone often are without meaning” J

But, if we can ideally think to something that can be compared analyzing numbers, graph and tables can let us have an idea of what we can expect…

 

Just as sample, it’s quite obvious that in  terms of “fire power” there no story between a DS8xxx and a FAS6xxx (same size and type of disks, same F/C channels and speed, same hosts and apps and so on) but reading at the values we can do more that with no specs at all.

 

My best regards,

 

 

Performance is not something which cannot be compared vis-a-vis with other platform/hardware.....

In real life there could be so many variables ........

 

OnTAP tuning and hardwares can play the role

Switching, paths , routing.....can play the role

then finally your front end Server Platform, hardware and application can play the role......

All these are very tightly related.....

-uddhav

 

 

 

You could look at specfs numbers (there’s an organization that publishes this), and you can get the docs you’ve already seen from your sales team.  It’s not something that is typically given to customers.  Check with your sales team (Channel perhaps?).

 

Glenn

 

 

Hi all

 

Long times ago I was able to obtain from some NetApp guys documentation that regarded detailed tech specs of filer appliances with data on performances such us iops, throughput and so on with also comparison between models both from NetApp and competitor too. The data regarded NAS ans SAN (iSCSI and FCP) aspects.

 

Do you know if there are available docs on new filers?

 

Sometime it happens that customers ask us for comparison charts (i.e. now we could need data for IBM DS8000 storage and FAS3xxx and/or 6xxx filers regarding SAN FCP performances)

 

regards

And last, since years and years there’s always been “secrets” and “nda” on detailed tech specs of computers, appliances or, generally, IT relatad hardware!...

Could this be the proof that IT is not science? J

 

After all when I compare two cars I can have exact data from the two vendors… ;-)

 

 

 

 

Performance is not something which cannot be compared vis-a-vis with other platform/hardware.....

In real life there could be so many variables ........

 

OnTAP tuning and hardwares can play the role

Switching, paths , routing.....can play the role

then finally your front end Server Platform, hardware and application can play the role......

All these are very tightly related.....

-uddhav

 

 

 

You could look at specfs numbers (there’s an organization that publishes this), and you can get the docs you’ve already seen from your sales team.  It’s not something that is typically given to customers.  Check with your sales team (Channel perhaps?).

 

Glenn

 

 

Hi all

 

Long times ago I was able to obtain from some NetApp guys documentation that regarded detailed tech specs of filer appliances with data on performances such us iops, throughput and so on with also comparison between models both from NetApp and competitor too. The data regarded NAS ans SAN (iSCSI and FCP) aspects.

 

Do you know if there are available docs on new filers?

 

Sometime it happens that customers ask us for comparison charts (i.e. now we could need data for IBM DS8000 storage and FAS3xxx and/or 6xxx filers regarding SAN FCP performances)

 

regards

I know!

I got this from a guy here and I’m just reading now the data.  I share with others that didn’t know it

 

http://www.storageperformance.org/results/benchmark_results_all

 

 

There’s some that can help. As others I expect some about FAS6xxx series.

 

Regards

 

 

I wish this would come from somewhere inside Netapp R&D Performance Matrix Dept

 

 

Hey, but don't worry. We are here to help out if you are not getting right numbers, you know......

just ping us

-uddhav

 

 

 

 

 

And last, since years and years there’s always been “secrets” and “nda” on detailed tech specs of computers, appliances or, generally, IT relatad hardware!...

Could this be the proof that IT is not science? J

 

After all when I compare two cars I can have exact data from the two vendors… ;-)

 

 

 

 

Performance is not something which cannot be compared vis-a-vis with other platform/hardware.....

In real life there could be so many variables ........

 

OnTAP tuning and hardwares can play the role

Switching, paths , routing.....can play the role

then finally your front end Server Platform, hardware and application can play the role......

All these are very tightly related.....

-uddhav

 

 

 

You could look at specfs numbers (there’s an organization that publishes this), and you can get the docs you’ve already seen from your sales team.  It’s not something that is typically given to customers.  Check with your sales team (Channel perhaps?).

 

Glenn

 

 

Hi all

 

Long times ago I was able to obtain from some NetApp guys documentation that regarded detailed tech specs of filer appliances with data on performances such us iops, throughput and so on with also comparison between models both from NetApp and competitor too. The data regarded NAS ans SAN (iSCSI and FCP) aspects.

 

Do you know if there are available docs on new filers?

 

Sometime it happens that customers ask us for comparison charts (i.e. now we could need data for IBM DS8000 storage and FAS3xxx and/or 6xxx filers regarding SAN FCP performances)

 

regards

 

You can’t ‘configure’ engines and suspensions very easily, the only variables you have there are pretty much the gas you put it in and the oil you use.  And how much you weigh. ;-)

 

With Storage devices, servers, and other IT stuff, there are so many ways to use it and so many configurations that it doesn’t make sense to publish benchmarks because they won’t even come close to representing a real-world experience.   I have never put together a Netapp solution that max’d out the configuration specs, and never had a design requirement to do so.  IMHO, your performance design should first look at IOPS, put in enough spindles for that, and then see which Netapp model fits that design given configurability and memory.  It’s the feature set that wins every time, theoretical performance differences should not be the major decision factor, as long as there isn’t a specific documented need to hit a performance number.

 

 

 

 

 

And last, since years and years there’s always been “secrets” and “nda” on detailed tech specs of computers, appliances or, generally, IT relatad hardware!...

Could this be the proof that IT is not science? J

 

After all when I compare two cars I can have exact data from the two vendors… ;-)

 

 

 

 

Performance is not something which cannot be compared vis-a-vis with other platform/hardware.....

In real life there could be so many variables ........

 

OnTAP tuning and hardwares can play the role

Switching, paths , routing.....can play the role

then finally your front end Server Platform, hardware and application can play the role......

All these are very tightly related.....

-uddhav

 

 

 

You could look at specfs numbers (there’s an organization that publishes this), and you can get the docs you’ve already seen from your sales team.  It’s not something that is typically given to customers.  Check with your sales team (Channel perhaps?).

 

Glenn

 

 

Hi all

 

Long times ago I was able to obtain from some NetApp guys documentation that regarded detailed tech specs of filer appliances with data on performances such us iops, throughput and so on with also comparison between models both from NetApp and competitor too. The data regarded NAS ans SAN (iSCSI and FCP) aspects.

 

Do you know if there are available docs on new filers?

 

Sometime it happens that customers ask us for comparison charts (i.e. now we could need data for IBM DS8000 storage and FAS3xxx and/or 6xxx filers regarding SAN FCP performances)

 

regards