What is the state of calendaring solutions?

[Nesbitt, Steve]

All:

Can anyone provide a definitive statement of what the future looks like
for calendaring solutions in PLone 2.5.x?

Looking at Plone Products I see a number of calendaring products - CalCMF,
Calendaring, CalViews, Dateable, Plone4Artists, PloneiCalendar.

Some of these seem to be combinations of one another - CalCMF, Dateable.

Others like PloneioCalendar and Calendaring appear to be fairly old based
on Plone 2.1 or with no activity for the past year.

Others look very new with nothing released - Dateable, CalPlone.

Now choice is great, but chaos and utter lack of clarity - at least to
me - ain't so hot.

So which of these have a future and which don't? Where is the community
heading on this?

Thx,

-steve

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[Lennart Regebro-2]

On 2/27/07, Stephen Nesbitt <snesbitt@...> wrote:
> So which of these have a future and which don't?

CalCMF, Plone4ArtistsCalendar and Dateable.

> Where is the community heading on this?

Dateable, I think, but it's not release-ready yet.

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[Morten W. Petersen]

Lennart Regebro wrote:

> On 2/27/07, Stephen Nesbitt <snesbitt@...> wrote:
>  
>> So which of these have a future and which don't?
>>    
>
> CalCMF, Plone4ArtistsCalendar and Dateable.
>
>  
>> Where is the community heading on this?
>>    
>
> Dateable, I think, but it's not release-ready yet.
>  

I am very interested in a calendaring solution, for
Zope as well as Plone.  So far CalCMF seems like
the most viable solution - any reason that's not
listed on the Dateable page?

Will Dateable be designed so that parts of it are
Zope-specific and usable outside of Plone?

Regards,

Morten

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[Lennart Regebro-2]

On 2/27/07, Morten W. Petersen <morten@...> wrote:
> I am very interested in a calendaring solution, for
> Zope as well as Plone.  So far CalCMF seems like
> the most viable solution - any reason that's not
> listed on the Dateable page?

Because it's not a part of Dateable. Calcore (which is the python core
or CalCMF) is mentioned there, though. However, it's not actually
currently used in Dateable. It probably will be in the future, though.

> Will Dateable be designed so that parts of it are
> Zope-specific and usable outside of Plone?

Yes. The views (Chronos) are Five-views and there is no reason they
shouldn't work outside Plone. Kalends is an API, and works everywhere.
:-)

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[Morten W. Petersen]

Lennart,
> Because it's not a part of Dateable. Calcore (which is the python core
> or CalCMF) is mentioned there, though. However, it's not actually
> currently used in Dateable. It probably will be in the future, though.

OK.

>
>> Will Dateable be designed so that parts of it are
>> Zope-specific and usable outside of Plone?
>
> Yes. The views (Chronos) are Five-views and there is no reason they
> shouldn't work outside Plone. Kalends is an API, and works everywhere.
> :-)

Sounds good.  :)  I have a little time available which I
was planning on using on CalCMF but if Dateable is
the way to go I can help there instead.

Is there a mailing list somewhere perhaps?

Regards,

Morten

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[Lennart Regebro-2]

On 2/28/07, Morten W. Petersen <morten@...> wrote:
> Sounds good.  :)  I have a little time available which I
> was planning on using on CalCMF but if Dateable is
> the way to go I can help there instead.

Well, if you want a type of personal calendar where you can book
resources and invite people, I think CalCMF is still the way to go for
a while. It's going to be some time before we have that functionalty
in Dateable, and when we do, that's going to be done by actually
letting CalCMF use Dateables views, so in fact you're going to use
CalCMF in that case anyway. ;-)

> Is there a mailing list somewhere perhaps?

I don't remember if Spanky created one, but if not it would be good to have one.

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[deesto]

So, what current solution (or combination of products) would you
recommend for a user base that desires the ability to create both
global and personal calendar objects, and (the "holy grail") recurring
events?


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[Lennart Regebro-2]

On 3/2/07, John DeStefano <john.destefano@...> wrote:
> So, what current solution (or combination of products) would you
> recommend for a user base that desires the ability to create both
> global and personal calendar objects, and (the "holy grail") recurring
> events?

CalCMF does all this, but it doesn't use standard Plone events so it's
a bit different from the rest.

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