WTB: Yamaha CS80

[rick-116]

I am trying to help a good friend find a nice CS80..
anyone have one in North America? semi functional is
ok

-r



     

[mr. craigslister]

best of luck. it is truly an amazing instrument-my desert island synth for sure(synthex close 2nd). a few tips on sourcing one, if i may.....

i spent a year chasing one. no luck. i had gone to the extreme of contacting people who owned one and telling them i was an interested buyer in the event they decided to sell. no luck, of course(lame idea! probably shouldnt do this!).

i changed my search technique, and within about 3 weeks, i had landed one. i basically made a concrete dollar figure known that i was willing to pay. this seemed to make a big difference.

persistence pays off....its the crown jewel for a reason, seriously.  also, a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who ends up sourcing it, your first time playing one can be very underwhelming. probably will be out of tune. its a machine that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys, aftertouch, ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i had ever played). the first time i played one, my first thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave up my search because of that experience. so glad i didnt.

> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:54:09 -0700
> From: echo7even@...
> To: analogue@...
> Subject: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80
>
> I am trying to help a good friend find a nice CS80..
> anyone have one in North America? semi functional is
> ok
>
> -r
>
>
>
>      

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[Larry Schurr]

I am SO glad someone explained this out in the open.

I had precisely the same reaction some years ago.
"THIS is what all the fuss is about??"
And just figured, "oh,well... different strokes..."

It's reassuring to know that there's more in there.  

Even though I'll never get a chance to own one.

Larry2

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mr. craigslister [mailto:phillycraigslister@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:54 AM
> To: analogue@...

> also, a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who
> ends up sourcing it, your first time playing one can be very
> underwhelming. probably will be out of tune. its a machine
> that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel
> for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys,
> aftertouch, ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i
> had ever played). the first time i played one, my first
> thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave up my search
> because of that experience. so glad i didnt.
>
>

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[Tim Curtis]

It took a while for me to realize that I'm far from alone on this.

I've owned 2 different CS-80s.  Both were pristine examples and completely
tuned and calibrated.

I couldn't be more happy to see them go.

It's another classic example of over-hyping.  At first they're completely
under-whelming.  After you get used to programming it it's not ~quite~ as
under-whelming, but it's far from what it's hyped to be.

I think that the people who need to have a CS-80, or many other synths for
that matter, generally want them because they're hyped to be something great
- and perhaps some recordings done with them ARE fantastic.  But unless
you're playing the same patch, through the same effects and recording chain,
with the same hands, and the same part...

Of course it's human nature to convince yourself that the synth you own or
covet sounds better than it actually does.  That seems to happen an awful
lot around here.

-T

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Schurr [mailto:Larry_Schurr@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:08 PM
To: mr. craigslister; analogue@...
Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80

I am SO glad someone explained this out in the open.

I had precisely the same reaction some years ago.
"THIS is what all the fuss is about??"
And just figured, "oh,well... different strokes..."

It's reassuring to know that there's more in there.  

Even though I'll never get a chance to own one.

Larry2

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mr. craigslister [mailto:phillycraigslister@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:54 AM
> To: analogue@...

> also, a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who
> ends up sourcing it, your first time playing one can be very
> underwhelming. probably will be out of tune. its a machine
> that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel
> for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys,
> aftertouch, ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i
> had ever played). the first time i played one, my first
> thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave up my search
> because of that experience. so glad i didnt.
>
>

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[samplelab]

i think the cs range just has a character you cant replicate .........i
personally think the 70 and 50   etc are also really worth considering
unless you really have to have polophonic walls of sound from  from a single
key.Wonderfull quality to these synths osc and filters.......unique.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mr. craigslister" <phillycraigslister@...>
To: <analogue@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:53 PM
Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80



best of luck. it is truly an amazing instrument-my desert island synth for
sure(synthex close 2nd). a few tips on sourcing one, if i may.....

i spent a year chasing one. no luck. i had gone to the extreme of contacting
people who owned one and telling them i was an interested buyer in the event
they decided to sell. no luck, of course(lame idea! probably shouldnt do
this!).

i changed my search technique, and within about 3 weeks, i had landed one. i
basically made a concrete dollar figure known that i was willing to pay.
this seemed to make a big difference.

persistence pays off....its the crown jewel for a reason, seriously.  also,
a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who ends up sourcing it, your first
time playing one can be very underwhelming. probably will be out of tune.
its a machine that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel
for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys, aftertouch,
ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i had ever played). the first
time i played one, my first thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave
up my search because of that experience. so glad i didnt.

> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:54:09 -0700
> From: echo7even@...
> To: analogue@...
> Subject: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80
>
> I am trying to help a good friend find a nice CS80..
> anyone have one in North America? semi functional is
> ok
>
> -r
>
>
>
>

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[samplelab]

i will agree to some degree.........i love the sound and cs range but the
price ? i cant quite get my head round it when i see what i can buy for that
cash and do .As a working musician and using these things  in relation to
what results they give me in a musical sense i am left thinking its just all
over overpriced ! one for the collectors and trainspotters........

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Curtis" <sexsymbol@...>
To: <analogue@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80

> It took a while for me to realize that I'm far from alone on this.
>
> I've owned 2 different CS-80s.  Both were pristine examples and completely
> tuned and calibrated.
>
> I couldn't be more happy to see them go.
>
> It's another classic example of over-hyping.  At first they're completely
> under-whelming.  After you get used to programming it it's not ~quite~ as
> under-whelming, but it's far from what it's hyped to be.
>
> I think that the people who need to have a CS-80, or many other synths for
> that matter, generally want them because they're hyped to be something
> great
> - and perhaps some recordings done with them ARE fantastic.  But unless
> you're playing the same patch, through the same effects and recording
> chain,
> with the same hands, and the same part...
>
> Of course it's human nature to convince yourself that the synth you own or
> covet sounds better than it actually does.  That seems to happen an awful
> lot around here.
>
> -T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Schurr [mailto:Larry_Schurr@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:08 PM
> To: mr. craigslister; analogue@...
> Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80
>
> I am SO glad someone explained this out in the open.
>
> I had precisely the same reaction some years ago.
> "THIS is what all the fuss is about??"
> And just figured, "oh,well... different strokes..."
>
> It's reassuring to know that there's more in there.
>
> Even though I'll never get a chance to own one.
>
> Larry2
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mr. craigslister [mailto:phillycraigslister@...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:54 AM
>> To: analogue@...
>
>> also, a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who
>> ends up sourcing it, your first time playing one can be very
>> underwhelming. probably will be out of tune. its a machine
>> that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel
>> for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys,
>> aftertouch, ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i
>> had ever played). the first time i played one, my first
>> thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave up my search
>> because of that experience. so glad i didnt.
>>
>>
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[Jason Proctor]

i think it's rather more the case that you convince yourself that the
*next* synth you own will sound better than anything you have *now*
:-)



>Of course it's human nature to convince yourself that the synth you own or
>covet sounds better than it actually does.  That seems to happen an awful
>lot around here.
>
>-T

[Tim Curtis]

Unless the synth you have is "rare and collectable".  ;-)

I've seen it happen too often.  Someone owns a synth that they think is
"okay," but after they find out that it's rare they somehow seem to think
differently about it.

Is it simply coincidence that every synth that is heralded as the "holy
grail" of sound just happens to be as rare as rocking horse s##t?

There is no ~real~ correlation between sound and rarity.

-T

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Proctor [mailto:jason@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:52 PM
To: Analogue Heaven
Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80

i think it's rather more the case that you convince yourself that the
*next* synth you own will sound better than anything you have *now*
:-)



>Of course it's human nature to convince yourself that the synth you own or
>covet sounds better than it actually does.  That seems to happen an awful
>lot around here.
>
>-T



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[Kenneth Balys]

>
> There is no ~real~ correlation between sound and rarity.
>

Yes there is.

There is when it comes to synth hardware.

The finsest, most correctly constructed instruments are rare.
They are never made to the masses,  are usually really good at  
something.

[mr. craigslister]

sure, its just an instrument at the end of the day. people should be GLAD if they dont truly yearn for a 4 or 5 figure synth. its really not for everybody.

just like the early arp synths, the cs80 occupies some sonic territory that cant be duplicated elsewhere IME. that doesnt mean its a desirable territory for all. i absolutely love it, but that's just me, and its not all the time. ive written/recorded things on it that sound like they could have been made on a microkorg, and ive written/recorded things that i totally love.

> Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:08:22 -0500
> From: Larry_Schurr@...
> To: phillycraigslister@...; analogue@...
>
> I am SO glad someone explained this out in the open.
>
> I had precisely the same reaction some years ago.
> "THIS is what all the fuss is about??"
> And just figured, "oh,well... different strokes..."
>
> It's reassuring to know that there's more in there.  
>
> Even though I'll never get a chance to own one.
>
> Larry2
>
>  
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mr. craigslister [mailto:phillycraigslister@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:54 AM
> > To: analogue@...
>
> > also, a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who
> > ends up sourcing it, your first time playing one can be very
> > underwhelming. probably will be out of tune. its a machine
> > that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel
> > for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys,
> > aftertouch, ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i
> > had ever played). the first time i played one, my first
> > thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave up my search
> > because of that experience. so glad i didnt.
> >
> >
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[alt-mode]

I have to disagree and I think it is how you view the instrument.  The CS-80
isn't so much about the synthesis as it is about the expressiveness.  I can
understand if someone isn't a keyboard player that the the CS-80 would not
be very interesting to them.  The real benefits are in the poly aftertouch,
the ribbon, and the quick access to the controls just above the keyboard.  I
find that after I play a CS-80, when I go to a non-poly aftertouch keyboard,
I'm always trying to dig in on one note to bring it out or have it only
effect the single note and am always disappointed when channel aftertouch
modulates all the notes.  Also, if you don't like weighted keyboards, the
CS-80 will not make you happy.

The CS-80 is a very expressive polysynth with emphasis on the expression and
not so much on the synthesis although the filters are very unique sounding
to my ear.

I can also understand if an instrument just doesn't "click" with you.  I had
a Waldorf Wave which is arguably one of the most programmable synths around
with nearly all the parameters right in front of you.  I loved the sounds
and for an unweighted keyboard, it was one of the best I have ever played
but the instrument just didn't work for me in the end and I sold it.  I also
had concerns about the reliability and availability of repair services
nearby.

To each his own....

    Eric


On 7/16/08 1:19 PM, "Tim Curtis" <sexsymbol@...> wrote:

> It took a while for me to realize that I'm far from alone on this.
>
> I've owned 2 different CS-80s.  Both were pristine examples and completely
> tuned and calibrated.
>
> I couldn't be more happy to see them go.
>
> It's another classic example of over-hyping.  At first they're completely
> under-whelming.  After you get used to programming it it's not ~quite~ as
> under-whelming, but it's far from what it's hyped to be.
>
> I think that the people who need to have a CS-80, or many other synths for
> that matter, generally want them because they're hyped to be something great
> - and perhaps some recordings done with them ARE fantastic.  But unless
> you're playing the same patch, through the same effects and recording chain,
> with the same hands, and the same part...
>
> Of course it's human nature to convince yourself that the synth you own or
> covet sounds better than it actually does.  That seems to happen an awful
> lot around here.
>
> -T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Schurr [mailto:Larry_Schurr@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:08 PM
> To: mr. craigslister; analogue@...
> Subject: RE: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80
>
> I am SO glad someone explained this out in the open.
>
> I had precisely the same reaction some years ago.
> "THIS is what all the fuss is about??"
> And just figured, "oh,well... different strokes..."
>
> It's reassuring to know that there's more in there.
>
> Even though I'll never get a chance to own one.
>
> Larry2
>
>  
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mr. craigslister [mailto:phillycraigslister@...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:54 AM
>> To: analogue@...
>
>> also, a heads up: if its you, or your friend, who
>> ends up sourcing it, your first time playing one can be very
>> underwhelming. probably will be out of tune. its a machine
>> that seems to only start to sing once you really get a feel
>> for it-programming, as well as playing style(weighted keys,
>> aftertouch, ribbon, etc all make it VERY unlike any synth i
>> had ever played). the first time i played one, my first
>> thought was "that's it? really?". i ALMOST gave up my search
>> because of that experience. so glad i didnt.
>>
>>
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[wavecomputer360]

Hi Tim,

in some respects you´re right, it takes a lot of effort to find the sweet spot on the CS80. I´m having a hard time every time I dust it off and have to adjust the sliders to where they were originally :). It´s also hard to find the right balance within the mix, you really need to find the right balance between reverb, chorus, delay, and stright signal to make it sound *really* great. When all is set up the way it should, the CS80 is the most organic-sounding and most pleasing synthesiser I´ve ever played (and I´ve played *a lot* of synthesisers over the past twenty years). If not, the CS80 can sound like a huge tun full of sugar-spin, or something equally sweet, fluffy, and suffocatingly dense. Monolithic, square-wavey, not very interesting.

Like Brian Eno once said so nicely, "there are just six sounds on a CS80 but these are wonderful sounds. I´d rather have six beautiful sounds on an instrument than a myriad of mediocre ones." Pretty much spot-on, I´d say.

Stephen (who recorded an entire album full of CS80, and enjoyed every single second of recording it, and no, not because it´s rare and expensive)



It took a while for me to realize that I'm far from alone on this.

I've owned 2 different CS-80s.  Both were pristine examples and completely
tuned and calibrated.

I couldn't be more happy to see them go.

It's another classic example of over-hyping.  At first they're completely
under-whelming.  After you get used to programming it it's not ~quite~ as
under-whelming, but it's far from what it's hyped to be.

I think that the people who need to have a CS-80, or many other synths for
that matter, generally want them because they're hyped to be something great
- and perhaps some recordings done with them ARE fantastic.  But unless
you're playing the same patch, through the same effects and recording chain,
with the same hands, and the same part...

Of course it's human nature to convince yourself that the synth you own or
covet sounds better than it actually does.  That seems to happen an awful
lot around here.

-T


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[ニコラス・ケント]

The observation I have is many people use synths to create non-melody  
based sonic material, while others sequence almost everything.  
Neither of these areas are, in my opinion, served very well by a  
CS80.  It's really something one needs to play by hand polyphonically  
to get out of it what it has to offer. I guess I just shake my head  
when someone asks the old "which one of these 2 synths should I get"  
question and one choice is a monosynth and the other is poly.    
Sure, how it sounds is a huge factor, but the kind of playing you  
intend to do really makes the difference.

As for bringing up well why not get a CS50, there is some  
possibilities in getting a similar synth engine for a lot less, but  
what's being lost is the best interface for incredible nuance in a  
layered sound - if you play by hand polyphonically. Then I start  
shaking my head again when someone then says alternatively why not  
get some other CS that's not even polyphonic or doesn't know the 40M,  
70, etc have a different sound engine.

For years I've been dreaming and fearing getting one. Dreaming  
because I really ant to play with all that extra nuance. Fearing  
because many are repair nightmares and is big and I can barely drag  
it alone let alone be able to lift it, etc. I just wanted to buy one  
that I didn't have to send somewhere else for repairs before I could  
bring it to the studio. I never found one of those though I'm sure  
one is out there.

nick

[samplelab]

Keep dreaming

>
> For years I've been dreaming and fearing getting one. Dreaming  
> because I really ant to play with all that extra nuance. Fearing  
> because many are repair nightmares and is big and I can barely drag  
> it alone let alone be able to lift it, etc. I just wanted to buy one  
> that I didn't have to send somewhere else for repairs before I could  
> bring it to the studio. I never found one of those though I'm sure  
> one is out there.
>
> nick

[samplelab]

ps - meant to say - i to dream and have this paranoia i will buy stuff thats
old and unreliable and a liability for alot of money and which is impossible
to service . . .i just buy new stuff now mainly as a result.........it feels
wiser for someone with my budget.Keep dreaming indeed but isnt this what
were saying - you will get the damn thing and with a week think - was it
worth all the dreaming. . . . better to keep dreaming - i find once you
fullfill a dream it becomes unfullfilling.

----- Original Message -----
From: "samplelab" <samplelab@...>
To: <analogue@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80

> Keep dreaming
>>
>> For years I've been dreaming and fearing getting one. Dreaming  because I
>> really ant to play with all that extra nuance. Fearing  because many are
>> repair nightmares and is big and I can barely drag  it alone let alone be
>> able to lift it, etc. I just wanted to buy one  that I didn't have to
>> send somewhere else for repairs before I could  bring it to the studio. I
>> never found one of those though I'm sure  one is out there.
>>
>> nick

[alt-mode]

On 7/17/08 6:35 AM, "ニコラス・ケント" <ndkent@...> wrote:
>
> For years I've been dreaming and fearing getting one. Dreaming
> because I really ant to play with all that extra nuance. Fearing
> because many are repair nightmares and is big and I can barely drag
> it alone let alone be able to lift it, etc. I just wanted to buy one
> that I didn't have to send somewhere else for repairs before I could
> bring it to the studio. I never found one of those though I'm sure
> one is out there.
>
Yup, I had the same dream/fear and only decided to get one because a) it was
available locally and b) one of the best CS-80 techs lives in the next town
over and is willing to make "house calls".  I still have the problem that I
can't move the beast myself so I need to enlist some help when it comes to
rearranging my studio but that isn't very often.  I'm certainly *never*
taking it out of the studio!

    Eric

[mr. craigslister]

i just wanna pipe in here and say that it's good to hear that there are some cs80 owners knocking around in here.  maybe this can be another resource for us all?

-rj

> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:55:15 -0400
> From: ah@...
> To: ndkent@...; analogue@...
> Subject: Re: [AH] WTB: Yamaha CS80
>
> On 7/17/08 6:35 AM, "ニコラス・ケント" <ndkent@...> wrote:
> >
> > For years I've been dreaming and fearing getting one. Dreaming
> > because I really ant to play with all that extra nuance. Fearing
> > because many are repair nightmares and is big and I can barely drag
> > it alone let alone be able to lift it, etc. I just wanted to buy one
> > that I didn't have to send somewhere else for repairs before I could
> > bring it to the studio. I never found one of those though I'm sure
> > one is out there.
> >
> Yup, I had the same dream/fear and only decided to get one because a) it was
> available locally and b) one of the best CS-80 techs lives in the next town
> over and is willing to make "house calls".  I still have the problem that I
> can't move the beast myself so I need to enlist some help when it comes to
> rearranging my studio but that isn't very often.  I'm certainly *never*
> taking it out of the studio!
>
>     Eric
>
>

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[alt-mode]

On 7/17/08 8:58 AM, "mr. craigslister" <phillycraigslister@...>
wrote:

>
> i just wanna pipe in here and say that it's good to hear that there are some
> cs80 owners knocking around in here.  maybe this can be another resource for
> us all?
>
> -rj

The yamahacs80 yahoo group is also an excellent resource of some very
helpful CS owners.

    Eric

[David Rogoff-2]

alt-mode wrote:

> On 7/17/08 8:58 AM, "mr. craigslister" <phillycraigslister@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > i just wanna pipe in here and say that it's good to hear that there are some
> > cs80 owners knocking around in here.  maybe this can be another resource for
> > us all?
> >
> > -rj
>
> The yamahacs80 yahoo group is also an excellent resource of some very
> helpful CS owners.
>  

Eric,

thanks for the plug!  I'd invite everyone who loves these instruments to
check out the Yahoo CS80 group and my own CS80 tech-support page:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahacs80
http://therogoffs.com/cs80

I would agree with previous comments. First, when you first turn on a
CS80, with the string presets and all performance knobs off (default
settings), it does sound like a bad string machine :^)  Also, it is a
keyboard player's instrument. However, you don't have to be a great,
classical pianist. You can get all sorts of cool ambient sounds by
setting up poly-aftertouch modulations and just holding down a bunch of
keys and slowly pressing different ones harder and softer. My cat used
to play it pretty well sitting on the keyboard and shifting her weight
around :^)

A