Undertaker trailer

[rich hall-3]

http://www.undertakermts.com/
 
Anyone have experience with one of these?  My dad said he had a trailer like this in the '70s.
 
Thanks,
 
Rich '02 SVS
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[Patrick Mullen]

> http://www.undertakermts.com/

If storage of the trailer while not in use is important, that's a great product.
Trailers don't get much shorter.  However, it adds wear and tear to your
drive train and leaves you bike to bounce around from bumps.

I'm not a fan, but I also have an enclosed trailer. ;)  It'll probably do
just fine if you're just looking for something in case a bike breaks
down or something.

For a dirtbike or other light bike, you can get one of those trailer hitch
things that hold your entire bike up, crossways, for half the price.

Trailer-in-a-Bag works okay, I think it's more expensive but I'm not
sure of the cost, but I wasn't filled with tremendous amounts of
security while hauling a bike with it.  But it got the job done just fine
and it's not too big when in the bag.

For $300 you can buy the heavy duty trailer with 15" wheels from
Harbor Freight.  Add a sheet of 1/2" plywood, wheel chock, and
eyelets for straps, and you have the setup that worked great for
me for several years.  I ended up giving away the perfectly good
trailer because for the price for four years of service I felt I got my
money's worth.  But then you have a full trailer you need to store
when not in use.

More info than you were looking for.  Hopefully some of it was
useful.  :)


~Patrick
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[Wayne Edelen-2]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Patrick Mullen <pmullen.lists@...> wrote:

>> http://www.undertakermts.com/
>
> If storage of the trailer while not in use is important, that's a great product.
> Trailers don't get much shorter.  However, it adds wear and tear to your
> drive train and leaves you bike to bounce around from bumps.
>
> I'm not a fan, but I also have an enclosed trailer. ;)  It'll probably do
> just fine if you're just looking for something in case a bike breaks
> down or something.
>
> For a dirtbike or other light bike, you can get one of those trailer hitch
> things that hold your entire bike up, crossways, for half the price.

I'm also not a fan of the bike just hanging out there, but I've never
used the product.

The hitch mount that puts the bike perpendicular to the back of the
vehicle seems like a better mount, but still not ideal.  At least one
guy I know with a 'Busa uses it and says it works well.

A friend of mine that rides a ZX-10 and is a paraplegic uses a pretty
nice trailer setup for his bike.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/Uber55/busa/L1030444.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/Uber55/busa/L1030442.jpg

I'm not sure on the brand, but it's very compact and also folds up
against a wall when not in use.  I'll e-mail him and ask him the
brand/model.  He trailered his bike from GA to MD recently so that he
could ride with a group of us.

-- Wayne
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[rich hall-3]

Would it be possible for 1 or 2 guys to stand the Harbor Freight trailer up on it's side or end?

> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:16:39 -0400
> From: pmullen.lists@...
> To: richallmc@...
> Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Undertaker trailer
> CC: dc-cycles@...
>
> > http://www.undertakermts.com/
>
> If storage of the trailer while not in use is important, that's a great product.
> Trailers don't get much shorter.  However, it adds wear and tear to your
> drive train and leaves you bike to bounce around from bumps.
>
> I'm not a fan, but I also have an enclosed trailer. ;)  It'll probably do
> just fine if you're just looking for something in case a bike breaks
> down or something.
>
> For a dirtbike or other light bike, you can get one of those trailer hitch
> things that hold your entire bike up, crossways, for half the price.
>
> Trailer-in-a-Bag works okay, I think it's more expensive but I'm not
> sure of the cost, but I wasn't filled with tremendous amounts of
> security while hauling a bike with it.  But it got the job done just fine
> and it's not too big when in the bag.
>
> For $300 you can buy the heavy duty trailer with 15" wheels from
> Harbor Freight.  Add a sheet of 1/2" plywood, wheel chock, and
> eyelets for straps, and you have the setup that worked great for
> me for several years.  I ended up giving away the perfectly good
> trailer because for the price for four years of service I felt I got my
> money's worth.  But then you have a full trailer you need to store
> when not in use.
>
> More info than you were looking for.  Hopefully some of it was
> useful.  :)
>
>
> ~Patrick
> --
> 2003 Triumph Sprint ST
> 2004 (race) / 2001 (street) Suzuki SV650
> 2000 Yamaha WR-400
> 1975 Harley FXE1200

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[Nigel Houghton]

On 7/11/08 5:16 PM, "Patrick Mullen" <pmullen.lists@...> wrote:

> Trailer-in-a-Bag works okay, I think it's more expensive but I'm not
> sure of the cost, but I wasn't filled with tremendous amounts of
> security while hauling a bike with it.  But it got the job done just fine
> and it's not too big when in the bag.

Which reminds me, (since it was my trailer in a bag that Patrick used :D)
I'm selling it. It works better with larger bikes, the weight is important
since the trailer is not that heavy, carried my '04 Night Train from
Springfield IL, to McLean VA no problem at all. Anything that is SV650 size
and larger would be fine on it, smaller bikes would be a little light I
think.

Anyway, it's up for sale and for anyone on the list who is interested I'll
sell it to a list member for $650. It has the extra kickstand "stand" so you
can load it by yourself, price new is somewhere around $1300 + $100 for the
stand. (or thereabouts, I can't remember exactly) It actually works really
well and if you are struggling for storage space, you can't beat this thing.
It does all fit in a large bag (not that you would want to carry it round)
which was good for me while we were living in an apartment.

I'm selling it now because I have a covered trailer now, I had to buy one to
move furniture between VA and IL a few times and I don't need two trailers.

Anyway, if anyone on list is interested reply to this email off-list and
we'll sort something out.

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[Louis F. Caplan]

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:15:59 -0400, "Nigel Houghton" <nigel@...>
said:

> On 7/11/08 5:16 PM, "Patrick Mullen" <pmullen.lists@...> wrote:
>
> > Trailer-in-a-Bag works okay, I think it's more expensive but I'm not
> > sure of the cost, but I wasn't filled with tremendous amounts of
> > security while hauling a bike with it.  But it got the job done just
> > fine and it's not too big when in the bag.
>
> Which reminds me, (since it was my trailer in a bag that Patrick used
> :D) I'm selling it. It works better with larger bikes, the weight is
> important since the trailer is not that heavy, carried my '04 Night
> Train from Springfield IL, to McLean VA no problem at all. Anything
> that is SV650 size and larger would be fine on it, smaller bikes would
> be a little light I think.

I used a Trailer-in-a-Bag to bring my old Concours up to Teaneck, NJ
(also had the wife and kids, wife isn't that good of a driver...)  Once
you figure out how to use it, it's pretty simple to
assemble/disassemble.  And as Nigel said, very easy to store.  (I keep
it in a crawl space in my bedroom)  If you want to see what it looks
like, go here: http://jewishbikersworldwide.com/RR_LouisFKaplan.htm and
look at the first two, and last three pictures.  The folks at T-i-a-B
are very good to work with too.  I accidentally dragged my chains, they
replaced them for free.  

Louis

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[Michael Jordan]

> http://www.undertakermts.com/

Built a similar rig in the late 60s. Always disconnected the chain if
hauling the bike for more than a few miles (this was in the days of
clip-type master links).

It got VERY interesting quickly if you had to back the rig.

Mr. Mullen summed up the choices nicely.

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[PenguinBiker-2]

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Michael Jordan" <mjordan812@...>
> > http://www.undertakermts.com/
>
> Built a similar rig in the late 60s. Always disconnected the chain if
> hauling the bike for more than a few miles (this was in the days of
> clip-type master links).

That is IMPORTANT! The oil pump on some bikes is powered from the clutch or mainshaft. In that case the pump may not pump oil when the bike is being towed this way. (The bike in neutral with the rear wheel spinning.) The result is no oil is pumped to the _spinning_ countershaft (Or the matching gears on the mainshaft) and severe transmission damage can occur.
You need to remove the chain or make damn sure that _your_ bike will still lube the transmission properly with the engine off.

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PenguinBiker@... wrote:

>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Michael Jordan" <mjordan812@...>
>>> http://www.undertakermts.com/
>> Built a similar rig in the late 60s. Always disconnected the chain if
>> hauling the bike for more than a few miles (this was in the days of
>> clip-type master links).
>
> That is IMPORTANT! The oil pump on some bikes is powered from the clutch or mainshaft. In that case the pump may not pump oil when the bike is being towed this way. (The bike in neutral with the rear wheel spinning.) The result is no oil is pumped to the _spinning_ countershaft (Or the matching gears on the mainshaft) and severe transmission damage can occur.
> You need to remove the chain or make damn sure that _your_ bike will still lube the transmission properly with the engine off.
>

what you describe is the case on the 80's V4 hondas (sabres/magnas)

blue skies!

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[Patrick Mullen]

> Would it be possible for 1 or 2 guys to stand the Harbor Freight trailer up on it's side or end?

I had no problem standing the trailer up on its side by myself.  If
you're at all
industrious, the frame is exactly the same as the Harbor Freight "lightweight"
folding trailer but you want to get the heavy duty trailer for the 15" wheels
instead of the 12" wheels.  The lightweight trailer folds in half, so in theory
if you were to get the hinges from the lightweight trailer you could then make
your heavy duty trailer fold.  I had aspirations to do this with mine, but in
the end I just wheeled it into my back yard so I had no use for the feature
and never got around to it.

I suppose the opposite would be true -- lightweight trailer but swap the
axles for the good ones.  You really don't want 12" wheels with four
lugs.  Really, you don't.  :)


~Patrick
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[Danny Motorcycle]

So how are you supposed to know which bikes will pump the oil or not?
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[Eric Silberg]

I rarely contribute anything to the list anymore, but I passed a  
wreck on my home from work today involving a rider and at least one  
car, and I wanted to let people know and send my best to the rider.  
I didn't want to rubberneck and tie up traffic anymore than it was  
already, but I did see that the rider was conscious, alert, and  
moving around.  He did seem pretty badly beat up though, as he  
appeared to be wearing little gear (a helmet was all I saw) and I saw  
at least one sneaker in the street.

The wreckage was strewn over 100+ ft and the bike was smoldering  
about 10' off the road.  I could tell that it was sportbike, but it  
was completely destroyed.  As I didn't see what happened I won't  
speculate as to what caused the accident.  It did occur at a light  
controlled T intersection and it appears that the rider was going  
straight through on a road with a 45 mph limit.  The damaged car I  
saw was missing it's rear bumper parked on the side of the  
intersecting road.  Based on this, it seems like the car was likely  
turning left and the bike hit the car - but like I said, I have no  
idea what actually happened, speeds involved, what color the light  
was, etc.

If the rider is on this list, I hope you're ok.  Be careful everyone!
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