UPB vs Insteon under MH

[David Deutsch]

Hey all,

I was about to go with Insteon dimmers/switches/etc for my install until
someone detailed out some of the features of SAI's US2-40 UPB devices. I
love the idea that I can use a single device that can be a dimmer,
switch, keypad, etc with just the change of the faceplate. Also the idea
that the switches are so programmable from a piece of software is just
neato!

However my great concern (besides the price, hehe) is what level of
integration into MH exists for UPB.

Is the the same or greater than Insteon?

What computer interface do I use?

I like the idea that the physical dimmer/switch is separate from the
buttons in the US2-40, so I can divorce the buttons from the control of
the device directly. I would love a scenario where when I press a dimmer
control, it sends the UPB signal to MH and MH dims the physical device
(giving MH a kind of permission admin control over the lights, etc.). Is
this practical? Or is the delay too great?

Do I really need to link scenes from keypads, or can MH just handle all
the control with UPB?

Unlike Insteon, I didn't find very detailed UPB integration docs on the
MH wiki.. Just a UPB info page, is there more information? Is UPB
support still maintained?

Thanks all,

David

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[Timothy Spaulding]

I am using some UPB devices in my home. And as my SwitchLincs need replacing, I am replacing with UPB devices--specifically the us2-40.

Other answers below...

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Subject: [mh] UPB vs Insteon under MH

Hey all,

I was about to go with Insteon dimmers/switches/etc for my install until
someone detailed out some of the features of SAI's US2-40 UPB devices. I
love the idea that I can use a single device that can be a dimmer,
switch, keypad, etc with just the change of the faceplate. Also the idea
that the switches are so programmable from a piece of software is just
neato!

However my great concern (besides the price, hehe) is what level of
integration into MH exists for UPB.
>> I can't speak to the comparability of the level of support in MH that these protocols have with each other, I can only say that UPB does a good job.

Is the the same or greater than Insteon?

What computer interface do I use?
>> SAI has the UMCDB9 computer interface

I like the idea that the physical dimmer/switch is separate from the
buttons in the US2-40, so I can divorce the buttons from the control of
the device directly. I would love a scenario where when I press a dimmer
control, it sends the UPB signal to MH and MH dims the physical device
(giving MH a kind of permission admin control over the lights, etc.). Is
this practical? Or is the delay too great?
>>This is possible.  If memory serves me correctly, the person the created the support in MH for UPB is doing this very thing.  He presses a button on the switch, the switch tells the computer, the computer does the work by sending the proper signal back to the switch body.

Do I really need to link scenes from keypads, or can MH just handle all
the control with UPB?
>> I'm not positive I understand this question.  With the software to configure UPB, you have to tell all the switches what UPBLink command they will respond to and define what UPBLink command the buttons/rockers will generate when pressed.  You will also have to define the UPBLinks/devices in MH. MH can be aware/control any and all of these.

Unlike Insteon, I didn't find very detailed UPB integration docs on the
MH wiki.. Just a UPB info page, is there more information? Is UPB
support still maintained?
>> I would imagine UPB hasn't caught on due to its price.  I haven't seen the author of he UPB support post in a while, but I imagine he is still around and will make modifications as necessary--or someone else will.\

Thanks all,

David

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