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Triggering parking lot gate sensors

by David Blumgart :: Rate this Message:

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Apropos of not getting sensors to work, I rode down to National Airport last weekend to see my daughter off.  I inquired beforehand to the airport police about M/C parking, and was told there was none and to use the regular car lots.  

But on arrival, I absolutely could not get the hourly lot gate to recognize that there was a W650 sitting in front of it.  Finally gave up, and short for time, rode around the gate.  I was concerned I'd get hammered by the parking lot staff for a maximum "lost ticket" parking fee.  But on departure I considered that:  that there was an unattended exit gate set apart from attendants with plenty of room to slip past; it was simplicity to remove my plate to befuddle inquisitive cameras; and that arguing with the attendants - whom, most likely, would did not have English as their first language - was not going to be a profitable use of a Saturday afternoon, and took the appropriate steps.

Like the correspondents waiting for the light to change, I would have been happy to Do The Right Thing and pay for my parking like a good citizen.  But if the Powers That Be can't get their little servo-mechanisms to work right, phuquem.



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Re: Triggering parking lot gate sensors

by pltrgyst@yahoo.com :: Rate this Message:

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I wrote the airport authority twice about this exact problem several years ago, and did not even get the courtesy of a reply.

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--- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Blumgart <mojohand@...> wrote:

> From: David Blumgart <mojohand@...>
> Subject: [dc-cycles] Triggering parking lot gate sensors
> To: dc-cycles@...
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:45 AM
> Apropos of not getting sensors to work, I rode down to
> National Airport last weekend to see my daughter off.  I
> inquired beforehand to the airport police about M/C
> parking, and was told there was none and to use the regular
> car lots.  
>
> But on arrival, I absolutely could not get the hourly lot
> gate to recognize that there was a W650 sitting in front of
> it.  Finally gave up, and short for time, rode around the
> gate.  I was concerned I'd get hammered by the parking
> lot staff for a maximum "lost ticket" parking
> fee.  But on departure I considered that:  that there was
> an unattended exit gate set apart from attendants with
> plenty of room to slip past; it was simplicity to remove my
> plate to befuddle inquisitive cameras; and that arguing with
> the attendants - whom, most likely, would did not have
> English as their first language - was not going to be a
> profitable use of a Saturday afternoon, and took the
> appropriate steps.
>
> Like the correspondents waiting for the light to change, I
> would have been happy to Do The Right Thing and pay for my
> parking like a good citizen.  But if the Powers That Be
> can't get their little servo-mechanisms to work right,
> phuquem.
>
>
>
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Re: Triggering parking lot gate sensors

by dcmcrider :: Rate this Message:

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It's funny how they can't get parking lot and traffic signal sensors
to work for motorcyclists, but the toll road authorities don't seem to
have these difficulties, even though the technology is exactly the
same. I rolled through about dozen toll booths with my EZPass on my
trip from Maine to DC yesterday, and they all worked, even the ones on
the NJ Turnpike that allow you to roll through at speed (55+). It's a
mixture of carelessness, ineptitude and just plain laziness on the
part of parking lot operators and DOTs that these problems aren't
fixed and the equipment is not properly calibrated for
less-than-cage-size vehicles. I wonder if Smartcars have similar
problems?

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, pltrgyst@... <pltrgyst@...> wrote:

> I wrote the airport authority twice about this exact problem several years ago, and did not even get the courtesy of a reply.
>
> -- Larry
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Blumgart <mojohand@...> wrote:
>
>> From: David Blumgart <mojohand@...>
>> Subject: [dc-cycles] Triggering parking lot gate sensors
>> To: dc-cycles@...
>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:45 AM
>> Apropos of not getting sensors to work, I rode down to
>> National Airport last weekend to see my daughter off.  I
>> inquired beforehand to the airport police about M/C
>> parking, and was told there was none and to use the regular
>> car lots.
>>
>> But on arrival, I absolutely could not get the hourly lot
>> gate to recognize that there was a W650 sitting in front of
>> it.  Finally gave up, and short for time, rode around the
>> gate.  I was concerned I'd get hammered by the parking
>> lot staff for a maximum "lost ticket" parking
>> fee.  But on departure I considered that:  that there was
>> an unattended exit gate set apart from attendants with
>> plenty of room to slip past; it was simplicity to remove my
>> plate to befuddle inquisitive cameras; and that arguing with
>> the attendants - whom, most likely, would did not have
>> English as their first language - was not going to be a
>> profitable use of a Saturday afternoon, and took the
>> appropriate steps.
>>
>> Like the correspondents waiting for the light to change, I
>> would have been happy to Do The Right Thing and pay for my
>> parking like a good citizen.  But if the Powers That Be
>> can't get their little servo-mechanisms to work right,
>> phuquem.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Triggering parking lot gate sensors

by Matthew Bafford :: Rate this Message:

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False positives on the toll road are not really a huge problem - the
drones scanning the photos can easily rule out empty frames.  False
positives on a traffic light could potentially lead to pretty bad
traffic problems if they resulted in an infrequently triggered light
cycling constantly.  False positives on the parking deck gates make it
easier for people to pay less by walking up and pressing the button
for a new ticket just prior to leaving.

Just playing devil's advocate....

--Matthew would like to point out that you can roll through the 267
ones at speed (65+, too). :D

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Paul Wilson <dcmcrider@...> wrote:

> It's funny how they can't get parking lot and traffic signal sensors
> to work for motorcyclists, but the toll road authorities don't seem to
> have these difficulties, even though the technology is exactly the
> same. I rolled through about dozen toll booths with my EZPass on my
> trip from Maine to DC yesterday, and they all worked, even the ones on
> the NJ Turnpike that allow you to roll through at speed (55+). It's a
> mixture of carelessness, ineptitude and just plain laziness on the
> part of parking lot operators and DOTs that these problems aren't
> fixed and the equipment is not properly calibrated for
> less-than-cage-size vehicles. I wonder if Smartcars have similar
> problems?
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, pltrgyst@... <pltrgyst@...> wrote:
>> I wrote the airport authority twice about this exact problem several years ago, and did not even get the courtesy of a reply.
>>
>> -- Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Blumgart <mojohand@...> wrote:
>>
>>> From: David Blumgart <mojohand@...>
>>> Subject: [dc-cycles] Triggering parking lot gate sensors
>>> To: dc-cycles@...
>>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:45 AM
>>> Apropos of not getting sensors to work, I rode down to
>>> National Airport last weekend to see my daughter off.  I
>>> inquired beforehand to the airport police about M/C
>>> parking, and was told there was none and to use the regular
>>> car lots.
>>>
>>> But on arrival, I absolutely could not get the hourly lot
>>> gate to recognize that there was a W650 sitting in front of
>>> it.  Finally gave up, and short for time, rode around the
>>> gate.  I was concerned I'd get hammered by the parking
>>> lot staff for a maximum "lost ticket" parking
>>> fee.  But on departure I considered that:  that there was
>>> an unattended exit gate set apart from attendants with
>>> plenty of room to slip past; it was simplicity to remove my
>>> plate to befuddle inquisitive cameras; and that arguing with
>>> the attendants - whom, most likely, would did not have
>>> English as their first language - was not going to be a
>>> profitable use of a Saturday afternoon, and took the
>>> appropriate steps.
>>>
>>> Like the correspondents waiting for the light to change, I
>>> would have been happy to Do The Right Thing and pay for my
>>> parking like a good citizen.  But if the Powers That Be
>>> can't get their little servo-mechanisms to work right,
>>> phuquem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Triggering parking lot gate sensors

by Michael Jordan :: Rate this Message:

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> I wonder if Smartcars have similar problems?

Mine doesn't.

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 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Matthew Bafford" <matthew.bafford@...>
> False
> positives on a traffic light could potentially lead to pretty bad
> traffic problems if they resulted in an infrequently triggered light
> cycling constantly.  

Sorry but I have to disagree on that one. Even if the damn thing triggered constantly (not going to happen) it would only be like rush hour when there are cages on all the triggers all the time. The light would trigger on its default timer _not_ simply change constantly. There would be no traffic problem bad or otherwise. I admit that late at night when there is little traffic a few people on the through lanes would be slightly inconvenienced by having to stop for an unnecessary light cycle but late at night who cares. The argument about setting the damn things so that they would trigger too often is a smoke screen to cover being too damn lazy to fix the problem.

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