Tips/hints/pointers/advice on working with a database

[Christian August Michelsen]

Hello people and other sentient life forms :-)

I'm currently trying to figure out most of this platform and I've hit
the famous wall in regard to how to structure out a database driven
application (currently thinking about using hibernate).

So basicly I'm asking for any pointers or advice on how to structure out
ones application to bind data from the database to window system in a
manner that will not come back to haunt my dreams later on. ;-)

Any help would be appriciated. :-)


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Regards
Christian Michelsen

[sushant kumar]

On Netbeans 6.1,use Web app with  Visual JSF lib, use  persistance API for  best result.(Most of the things are wizard Driven) [Little difficult to maintain]

Otherwise  use Hibernate , hard code your app. (But easy to maintain)

         http://www.hibernate.org
is good enough.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Christian August Michelsen <chris-m@...> wrote:

Hello people and other sentient life forms :-)

I'm currently trying to figure out most of this platform and I've hit the famous wall in regard to how to structure out a database driven application (currently thinking about using hibernate).

So basicly I'm asking for any pointers or advice on how to structure out ones application to bind data from the database to window system in a manner that will not come back to haunt my dreams later on. ;-)

Any help would be appriciated. :-)


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Christian Michelsen

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[Emilian Bold]

> ...in a manner that will not come back to haunt my dreams later on. ;-)

Heh, this is bound to happen anyhow. It's just a matter of "how much" ;-)

I've used both Hibernate and Cayenne and they both require the master
ClassLoader as they are not written with a restrictive / secure
container in mind.

But you might want to experiment with something else if you feel in the mood.

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[McElwain, Paul Benjamin]

Christian,

If you do not know for sure where your dreams may take you, and especialy if your application is actually (domain or business) data driven -- rather than driven by currently implemented database structure, I would make a pitch for incorporating some of the Java (EE) blueprint structures for a layer between the database and the window (presentation) system.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian August Michelsen [mailto:chris-m@...]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:13 AM
To: dev@...
Subject: [openide-dev] Tips/hints/pointers/advice on working with a database

Hello people and other sentient life forms :-)

I'm currently trying to figure out most of this platform and I've hit
the famous wall in regard to how to structure out a database driven
application (currently thinking about using hibernate).

So basicly I'm asking for any pointers or advice on how to structure out
ones application to bind data from the database to window system in a
manner that will not come back to haunt my dreams later on. ;-)

Any help would be appriciated. :-)


--
Regards
Christian Michelsen

[Christian August Michelsen]

Emilian Bold skrev:
> Heh, this is bound to happen anyhow. It's just a matter of "how much" ;-)

True, I just live in blissfull denial. ;-)

> I've used both Hibernate and Cayenne and they both require the master
> ClassLoader as they are not written with a restrictive / secure
> container in mind.
>
> But you might want to experiment with something else if you feel in the mood.

Got any pointers on how to start on actually implementing
Hibernate/Cayenne in an application? ? ;) *promises cookies(*) for
response(s)*
(Usefull code samples get's a soda aswell ;p )

-- Some info about what I'm actually trying to do --
I'm porting an app I made quite some time ago to control certain aspects
of Zen-Cart (www.zen-cart.com) as a way of learning the neatbeans platform.
Basicly the app let's me control products and categories, and my
thinking was then that I should implement the "model" part of the
application in one module for categories and one for products.


My current thinking is to create two modules for the "model" part
(products and categories) and two modules for the GUI to keep it
seperated (atleast in theory).

But as to how to accomplish this with
Hibernate/Cayenne/Toplink/JPA/Ibatis eludes me. ;)
What I've found so far is some people creating a .jar file with the
persistence layer and then wrapping this in a netbeans module, which to
me seemed to be a really wierd way of going about things.

Any insights would be greatly appriciated (and is rewarded with cookies ;)

I hope this mail hasn't been utterly confusing or illegible ;-)

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Best regards
Christian Michelsen
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