Nabble - TiMidity++ - General

note changes and pitch bending

2008-09-17T23:48:53Z

I have an application that I am porting to the ALSA API that previously
directly accessed a Sound Blaster Audigy board. I have ported the sound
code in the application I am working on to ALSA and I setup timidity for
synth capability (the application uses about 11 to 13 channels of audio
all by itself.

Here is the problem. The audigy boards accepted pitch bend values
throughout the entire 16383 value set. However, timidity seems to only
allow pitch variation over only a 2 note range.

The application I am trying to get working sends a sequence of events
directly to the alsa port that timidity is setting up. The audio
however had all kinds of crackles and pops in it especially during not
transitions.

Is there a way to tell timidity to recalibrate it's pitch bend range to
allow for a wider range over say 2 octaves instead of 2 notes??? Also,
it looks like it is using only the highest 13 bits instead of 14 bits
like the spec calls for.

Thanks,
Jared

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Clicking Noise On Some SoundFonts

2008-08-23T10:36:16Z

Hello list,

Timidity usually gives good results, but on some soundfonts it will
produce an annoying clicking sound. As an example, I have uploaded
an MP3 of a wave file created with Timidity that contains the clicking
noise. Also uploaded are the MIDI file and the soundfont used (there
is only a single instrument involved).

http://firstbooks.biz/midi/beatgen.mp3 (MP3 file is about 3.4 Mb)

http://firstbooks.biz/midi/beatgen.mid

http://firstbooks.biz/midi/WT_Clarinet.sf2 (SF2 file is about 330 kB)

Note: This is a microtonal composition, so if the tuning sounds a bit
off it is deliberate.

If I render this file with fluidsynth the clicking noise does not
occur. Also, if I tweak the attack or decay rates in the Timidity
configuration file, I can mitigate the clicking noise somewhat but
cannot eliminate it entirely.

Could this be a problem with the soundfont or is Timidity just not
able to process SF2 fonts completely?

Regards,

AK

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Re: Classical Strings Soundfonts

2008-08-20T21:59:49Z

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:35:21 +1200
Sidney Hobbs <sidney_hobbs@...> wrote:

>
> It isn't clear to me if you use windows or Linux,I have both windows xp
> and Ubuntu Studio on my PC,I have a Soundblaster 5.1 card which serves
> both,I use Timidity++ (The windows version) on both,I run it under wine
> in Ubuntu,I also use a windows program called SynthFont,which enables one
> to use soundfont collections,and or individual instrument SF

I have dual boot system with both Linux and MS Windows. For most
things I much prefer Linux, but for sound work I often use both.
MS Windows sometimes offers capabilities that Linux does not.
One example is soundfont decompressing and editing. Linux has an
editor called Swami (http://swami.resonance.org/trac) which is useful
but the editors for MS Windows tend to be more capable, such as the
Awave editor that you mention.

I know about Synthfont, but I haven't yet tried it. An excellent
software synthesizer for MS Windows is, or was, a program called
Audio Compositor. Like Timidity, Audio Compositor used SF2 soundfonts
to produce wave files but it also had extensive soundfont editing
capabilities. Unfortunately the program, which was shareware, has
been abandoned by its author. It may still be available somewhere.
If you can find it, I would recommend it highly.

(I have a copy but I don't know how ethical it would be for me to
distribute it.)

>
> favourite string st2's is Papelmedia,and Cadenza strings or Florestan,
> I have tried the Sinfonia 36 and it has some great qualities,
>

String fonts, including the ones you mention, have always been
disappointing for me. I've tried virtually everything available
at the free soundfont repositories without satisfaction. Until I
discovered Sinfonia 36, I had given up on rendering string-based music.
The Sinfonia font is not perfect, but, for me at least, it is a great
improvement and will allow me to pick up on some old projects.

>
> I use Awave Studio to make any soundfonts that I may need
>

Awave is one reason I still use MS Windows for sound. The Linux
Swami editor is similar to Awave but is less capable and even
less stable.

I also need to use MS Windows for basic MIDI editing.
Linux lacks a good graphical MIDI editor. A project called
Jazz++ is a start but it's been on hold for a long while:

http://jazzplusplus.sourceforge.net/

>
> I will attatch a little mp3 that I made with Synthfont,only piano,but most
> interesting,
>

That is a very good piano sound and a very good rendering.

My only criticism is the volume level of the wave file.
The maximum signal peak is -12 dB and consequently the overall
sound is much too soft. This peak level should be increased to
very near the maximum (maybe -0.3 dB).

With Linux there is a nice tool called normalize (http://normalize.nongnu.org/)
that could increase the signal strength of the wave file
to any specified level.

>
> (sorry it's an mp3,always use wave files myself,but to big to send)
>

Flac compression can losslessly reduce the size of wave files
by about 30%. That's not small enough for transmission but
it may be a liitle better for storage.

http://flac.sourceforge.net/

AK

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Classical Strings Soundfonts

2008-08-19T16:16:40Z

For me, classical strings have been the hardest to render using the
free soundfonts available. High quality Open Source string fonts
don't seem to exist. But now I have discovered a soundfont
package that does give good results. Any users of Timidity who
render classical music such as symphonies or string quartets
should try this collection called Sinfonia 36:

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~floatingworld/sinfonia.htm

Although the strings are quite passable, the woodwinds in this
collection are not as good and I would recommend using fonts
from other collections for oboe, clarinet, etc.

If anyone does try these fonts, please report back here on
your results.

AK

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Re: Timidity won't load voices out of order

2008-08-07T20:40:31Z

Hello.

What version of timidity are you using?
2.11.x, 2.12.x? 2.13.x or CVS version?

I'm currently using hand build timidity and
timw32g from TiMidityCVS080327, but,
luckly(?), I've not yet met similar situation
like yours.

In my case, timidity.cfg looks like:
--------------------------
dir D:/usr/share/timidity/cfg

# eawplus-12.0
source ../eawplus-12.0/timidity.cfg

# Fluid3.
dir /usr/share/timidity/sndfonts
source fluid3/fluid3gm.cfg
#
source fluid3/fluid3gs.cfg
source fluid3/fluid3atomic.cfg
source fluid3/altassign.cfg
#

# alter.
source timidity-post.cfg
--------------------------

timidity-pos.cfg looks like:
--------------------------
bank 0
# SGM-180 for pickbass
34 %font "SGM-180 v1.5.sf2" 0 34 amp=170

36 ../eawpats12/slapbas1 amp=180

# FluidR3 piano. (Yamaha?)
0 %font "FluidR3GM.SF2" 0 0 amp=70
### SGM-180 for sitar.
104 %font "SGM-180 v1.5.sf2" 0 104 amp=130

# SGM-180 OD guitar.
29 %font "SGM-180 v1.5.sf2" 0 84 amp=80

# Titanic200 for viola
# AAViloin, Faster Attack.
41 %font "AAViolin.SF2" 0 1 amp=90

# Titanic200 for cello
# FluidR3 for cello
42 %font FluidR3GM.SF2 0 42 amp=180

### SGM-180 for clarinet.
71 %font "SGM-180 v1.5.sf2" 0 71 amp=100

# eawpat harmonica
80 harmonca amp=90

# church organ.
19 %font FluidR3GM.SF2 0 19 amp=140 pan=0

(snip)
--------------------------

If you're using older one, better try using
new one, may be helpful for you.

May wish be your help.

--
ririka_sos
http://sendai.cool.ne.jp/timidi/
(Sad to say, most content are in Japanese.)

> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:46:47 -0400
> From: metafarion@...
> To: timidity-talk@...
> Subject: [timidity-talk] Timidity won't load voices out of order
>
> In other words, if a midi file uses all five instruments in the above cfg,
> timidity will refuse to use fluidR3.sf2 for the voice 4 because it already
> stopped loading voices from fluidR3.sf2 after voice 1 and began loading
> from the other specified soundfonts. It will instead use
> conexant_500gm.sf2 for voice 4 because that was the last soundfont loaded.

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Re: Timidity won't load voices out of order

2008-08-07T09:19:16Z

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:46:47 -0400 (EDT)
metafarion@... wrote:

>
> bank 0
> 0 %font fluidR3.sf2 0 0 # Acoustic Grand
> 1 %font fluidR3.sf2 0 1 # Bright Acoustic
> 2 %font free_time.sf2 0 2 # Honky-tonk
> 3 %font conexant_500gm.sf2 0 3 # Electric Grand
> 4 %font fluidR3.sf2 0 4 # Elec. Piano 1
>
>
> The problem I'm running into is that timidity will only load each
> soundfont once, and since it's loading numerically in sequence, a
> soundfont used for voice 0 and 1 will not be used again for voice 4 if it
> is not also used for voice 2 and 3.
>

How about trying this configuration:

soundfont fluidR3.sf2 order=0
soundfont free_time.sf2 order=0
soundfont conexant_500gm.sf2 order=0

bank 0

0 fluidR3
1 fluidR3
2 free_time
3 conexant_500gm
4 fluidR3
...

AK

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Timidity won't load voices out of order

2008-08-06T22:46:47Z

I'm trying to put together a custom (and quite complicated) timidity.cfg,
taking my favorite voices from 7 or 8 different soundfonts and putting
them into one GM sound bank like so:

bank 0
0 %font fluidR3.sf2 0 0 # Acoustic Grand
1 %font fluidR3.sf2 0 1 # Bright Acoustic
2 %font free_time.sf2 0 2 # Honky-tonk
3 %font conexant_500gm.sf2 0 3 # Electric Grand
4 %font fluidR3.sf2 0 4 # Elec. Piano 1

...etc, you get the idea.

When timidity parses the above cfg file, it loads each soundfont in the
order of the instruments that require it, starting with 0 all the way to
127.

The problem I'm running into is that timidity will only load each
soundfont once, and since it's loading numerically in sequence, a
soundfont used for voice 0 and 1 will not be used again for voice 4 if it
is not also used for voice 2 and 3.

In other words, if a midi file uses all five instruments in the above cfg,
timidity will refuse to use fluidR3.sf2 for the voice 4 because it already
stopped loading voices from fluidR3.sf2 after voice 1 and began loading
from the other specified soundfonts. It will instead use
conexant_500gm.sf2 for voice 4 because that was the last soundfont loaded.

This is frustrating because my instrument choices do not occur neatly in
sequence. Does anybody have an idea for how I might work around this?

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Re: Just Intonation

2008-07-30T04:16:24Z

Hello,

From: Antony Hugh <ant_tb3@...>
Subject: [timidity-talk] Just Intonation
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:37:46 -0400 (EDT)

> So I make the song and create the sysex events:
>
> F0 7E 7F 08 0B 03 7B 7F 03 F7
> sets everything but channel 10 to Just Intonation.

That's right.

> F0 7E 7F 08 0A 41 01 F7
> sets the key to 1 sharp and makes it minor, i.e. E
> minor.

That's right.

> When I hit play it still sounds in equal temperament.
> So I thought, ok. Maybe Rosegarden is filtering those
> out before sending the midi data to Timidity. So I
> export to a MIDI file, and verify with a hex editor,
> yes I can see my sysex events [F0 7E 7F 08 0B 03 7B 7F
> 03 F7] and [F0 7E 7F 08 0A 41 01 F7] can both be found
> in the file. but then I invoke timidity from the
> commandline:
>
> timidity file.mid
>
> it still sounds in equal temperament.

I don't know about Rosegarden very well and I don't know how it works
in detail. Perhaps, the midi data (file.mid) may contain the message
such as GM System On. If so, MTS features will be initialized.

To make it simplified, Here I will introduce another approach which
uses ASeqView, VKeybd and Pmidi. The latest ASeqView (aseqview-0.2.8)
can visualize the tuning control events. It can also output the
received events to subscription ports with tuning control events such
as temperament tonalities and types from a MIDI keyboard via Tuning-
control Port. For example:

$ timidity -iA -B2,9 -q0/0 --sequencer-ports=1 -EFresamp=1 &
...
Requested buffer size 4096, fragment size 2048
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 4096, period size 1364 bytes
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0
$ vkeybd & # sequencer port: 129:0
...
$ aseqview -d128:0 -T129:0 &
...
Requested buffer size 4096, fragment size 2048
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 4096, period size 1364 bytes
$ aconnect -li
client 0: 'System' [type=kernel]
0 'Timer '
1 'Announce '
client 62: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel]
0 'Midi Through Port-0'
client 129: 'Virtual Keyboard' [type=user]
0 'Virtual Keyboard'
Connecting To: 130:1
client 130: 'MIDI Viewer' [type=user]
0 'Viewer Port 0 '
Connecting To: 128:0
$ aconnect -lo
client 62: 'Midi Through' [type=kernel]
0 'Midi Through Port-0'
client 128: 'TiMidity' [type=user]
0 'TiMidity port 0 '
Connected From: 130:0
client 130: 'MIDI Viewer' [type=user]
0 'Viewer Port 0 '
Connecting To: 128:0
1 'Tuning-control Port'
Connected From: 129:0
$ export ALSA_OUTPUT_PORTS=130:0
$ pmidi file.mid

[Quick Reference for Tuning-control Operations]
Piano Keyboard: just hit key: sets the key in I, V, IV, etc.
keep press key: sets the key in VI, III, II, etc.
Sustain Control: OFF (0-63): makes it major
ON (64-127): makes it minor
Program Change: 0 (Piano 1): equal temperament
1 (Piano 2): Pythagoras tuning
2 (Piano 3): mean-tone tuning
3 (Honky Tonk): pure intonation
64 (Soprano Sax): user-defined temperament #0
65 (Alto Sax): user-defined temperament #1
66 (Tenor Sax): user-defined temperament #2
67 (Baritone Sax): user-defined temperament #3

I hope this information will help you.

> Any ideas??? and does anybody want the midi file I
> have created?

Yes, I want your MIDI file. :-)

Regards,
TAMUKI Shoichi

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Just Intonation

2008-07-27T21:37:46Z

Hello, I am new to the list so greetings everyone.

I want to be able to use SysEx messages according to
the MIDI Tuning Standard, so that I can work in just
intonation and change keys on the fly, as explained in
this post from last year:
http://www.mail-archive.com/timidity-talk@.../msg00081.html

it is also explained in an official document:
http://www.midi.org/about-midi/tuning.shtml

but I cannot get it to work.

Details:
I use Rosegarden as my sequencer, which relies on
Timidity to make sound. My OS is Debian Lenny. From my
/etc/defaults/timidity file:
TIM_ALSASEQPARAMS="-B8,8 --temper-control -s 44100
-Os"

So I make the song and create the sysex events:

F0 7E 7F 08 0B 03 7B 7F 03 F7
sets everything but channel 10 to Just Intonation.

F0 7E 7F 08 0A 41 01 F7
sets the key to 1 sharp and makes it minor, i.e. E
minor.

When I hit play it still sounds in equal temperament.
So I thought, ok. Maybe Rosegarden is filtering those
out before sending the midi data to Timidity. So I
export to a MIDI file, and verify with a hex editor,
yes I can see my sysex events [F0 7E 7F 08 0B 03 7B 7F
03 F7] and [F0 7E 7F 08 0A 41 01 F7] can both be found
in the file. but then I invoke timidity from the
commandline:

timidity file.mid

it still sounds in equal temperament.

Any ideas??? and does anybody want the midi file I
have created?
thanks

P.S. invoking:
timidity --pure-intonation=1m
will work, but only for one key.

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Sound Font Source

2008-07-20T18:47:09Z

Anyone who is interested in acquiring more soundfonts for use with
TiMidity may be interested in this large -- and free -- collection
that is available for download:

http://zandro.freeunixhost.com/

AK

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JibJab.com

2008-07-16T19:49:37Z

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Re: best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T19:41:34Z

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:23:24 +0800
Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@...> wrote:

> A. Kalten wrote:
> > The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi
> > renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont
> > that is used.
> Sorry I am a bit confused here. I thought it was related to the quality
> of the patches. Or, are patches sets of sound fonts? Picking up my own
> sound font for each instrument looks a bit harder to me, I am not that
> professional to recognize all instrument's name yet:)
>

Patches and soundfonts are the same thing, except for the file
format. Both contain the information that is necessary to recreate
a musical instrument sound. TiMidity can use the PAT format (GUS
patches) and also the more recent SF2 format (Soundblaster soundfonts).

A separate patch or soundfont for each instrument is the best way
to get high quality sound. But, for the sake of convenience, if you
want to try an entire collection of General Midi sound fonts, I would
recommend the Crisis GM set. It's a bit large at 1.6 Gigabytes but
it has everything you'll need to listen to any midi file.

Do a google search for "Crisis GM soundfont".

The sound quality of the Crisis GM set is not as high as that
obtained from individual fonts, however. Some instruments
sound better than others. But for a quick review of a midi
file the quality is good enough.

Another good collection is the Fluid R3 GM soundfont. This
is another large package and works well with TiMidity++.

Do a google search for "Fluid R3 soundfont".

The TiMidity configuration files for these sets (and others)
can be found at the bottom of this page:

http://timidity.s11.xrea.com/index.en.html

Just drop them in and go.

The best thing to know when experimenting with TiMidity
is the mapping of the instruments. Each midi instrument
is indicated by a number from 0 to 127. A good place to
start is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI

AK

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Re: best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T18:13:59Z

I only know a few from the 128 built in.

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From: "Zhang Weiwu" <zhangweiwu@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:23 PM
To: "A. Kalten" <akalten@...>
Cc: <timidity-talk@...>
Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] best pieces of timidity music?

> A. Kalten wrote:
>> The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi
>> renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont
>> that is used.
> Sorry I am a bit confused here. I thought it was related to the quality
> of the patches. Or, are patches sets of sound fonts? Picking up my own
> sound font for each instrument looks a bit harder to me, I am not that
> professional to recognize all instrument's name yet:)
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Re: best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T17:23:24Z

A. Kalten wrote:
> The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi
> renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont
> that is used.
Sorry I am a bit confused here. I thought it was related to the quality
of the patches. Or, are patches sets of sound fonts? Picking up my own
sound font for each instrument looks a bit harder to me, I am not that
professional to recognize all instrument's name yet:)

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Re: best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T11:38:48Z

Zhang Weiwu wrote:

> So, here is my question:
> where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity?
> wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and
> timidity reaches.

Here are some mp3 files of TiMidity++ renderings that you can
download. Free soundfonts taken from the Internet were used.
They will be available for 30 days.

The classic Prelude and Fugue in D-minor of J.S. Bach:

http://firstbooks.biz/mp3/bach565.mp3

This piece has a great amount of dynamic range. Peak values are
at -0.19 dB.

L.v. Beethoven Piano Sonata #1 first movement:

http://firstbooks.biz/mp3/beson1a.mp3

There is also a lot of dynamic range here. Peaks are at -0.23 dB.

A Renaissance lute piece by Bakfark:

http://firstbooks.biz/mp3/bakfark.mp3

The lute sound has been simulated with a nylon guitar soundfont.

AK

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Re: best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T09:35:56Z

> So I tell myself, this must not be it. Maybe midi is better at
> performing some recent light music. Maybe I simply didn't get the
> well-made files. I also read the midi file quality vary from player A to
> player B, some file "optimized" for Windows media player, for example,
> may not work very well with a player in Mac OS. So, here is my question:
> where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity? I
> wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and
> timidity reaches.
>

I created a CD of my own music earlier this year. The background tracks
are created with MIDI rendered by timidity. Check it out at
http://www.mellowood.ca/music/cedars

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Re: best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T07:11:40Z

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:07:56 +0800
Zhang Weiwu <zhangweiwu@...> wrote:

>
> I am new to the midi world. I started my trial by listening to a piece
> of music from Bach
> (Johann_Sebastian_Bach-Christmas_Oratorio_-_Collegium_Vocale_Ghent) and
> compare to the same piece of music I downloaded somewhere on the
> Internet, the difference is huge, the music placed by timidity is
> un-listenable. I can hear the rhythm and no noise but the performance
> quality is far from the original record.
>
> So I tell myself, this must not be it. Maybe midi is better at
> performing some recent light music. Maybe I simply didn't get the
> well-made files. I also read the midi file quality vary from player A to
> player B, some file "optimized" for Windows media player, for example,
> may not work very well with a player in Mac OS. So, here is my question:
> where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity? I
> wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and
> timidity reaches.
>

The musical output quality of timidity, or any other software midi
renderer, is completely dependent on the quality of the soundfont
that is used. With timidity and the proper soundfont, I can easily
render Beethoven piano sonatas and Bach organ or harpsichord works
that are virtually indistinguishable from human performances.

Where to download soundfonts?

Good repositories of free fonts are here:

http://www.sf2midi.com
http://www.hammersound.net
http://members.shaw.ca/glitch/sffiles.html
http://www.soundfonts.it/?a=soundfonts

These fonts are in the sf2 format and timidity has to be configured
a little differently to use them. See the README.sf file in the
timidity documents directory for the details on how to set up
the configuration file to load sf2 fonts.

In my experience, solo keyboard works can be rendered with
great fidelity using free fonts. Solo woodwind and brass
compositions are also able to be faithfully reproduced.
Stringed instruments generally tend to be less realistic
and thus string quartets or complete symphonic works are not
the best material for timidity.

I have never used commercial fonts but success may be even
greater with these.

AK

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best pieces of timidity music?

2008-07-16T06:07:56Z

Hello.

I am new to the midi world. I started my trial by listening to a piece
of music from Bach
(Johann_Sebastian_Bach-Christmas_Oratorio_-_Collegium_Vocale_Ghent) and
compare to the same piece of music I downloaded somewhere on the
Internet, the difference is huge, the music placed by timidity is
un-listenable. I can hear the rhythm and no noise but the performance
quality is far from the original record.

So I tell myself, this must not be it. Maybe midi is better at
performing some recent light music. Maybe I simply didn't get the
well-made files. I also read the midi file quality vary from player A to
player B, some file "optimized" for Windows media player, for example,
may not work very well with a player in Mac OS. So, here is my question:
where can I download the music that shows top performance of timidity? I
wish to listen to it and get an impression to what extent midi and
timidity reaches.

I also know timidity can be equipped with different patches. I guess I
have eawpatches installed by the package manger as default patches for
timidity. Should I try other patches? e.g. I also found shompatches in
my package manager (in gentoo linux).

Best.

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Re: midi file

2008-07-12T22:37:02Z

That one, as all of them, was built with Visual C++.

Skeishi can tell you more about it.

It really is his project now. I am just a user who likes music.

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From: lobachevski@...

To: timidity-talk@...

Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:24 PM

Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] midi file

I think I got it working now.

I downloaded Timidity from http://sourceforge.net/projects/twsynth

The timidity.exe file from there is 936 KB.

BUT, the timidity.exe file that I had was 1627 KB. I believe I got that one from here: http://www.timidity.jp/.

Thank you very much!

J. Sawruk

> From: bobby19646075@...
> To: timidity-talk@...
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:59:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] midi file
>
> I did mine under EZ PNO.
> I still have it. I bought back when I bought a Tandy 1000 HX.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johan Vromans" <jvromans@...>
> To: <timidity-talk@...>
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] midi file
>
>
> > "Bobby McNulty" <bobby19646075@...> writes:
> >
> >> Here is a small midi file to test out your timidity.
> >> Jeremy's causes problems under 2.13.2 under windows XP
> >
> > Looks & sounds normal.
> > Timidity 2.13.2, GNU/Linux (Fedora 8)
> >
> > -- Johan
> >
> > MIDI::Opus->new({
> > 'format' => 1,
> > 'ticks' => 120,
> > 'tracks' => [ # 9 tracks...
> >
> > # Track #0 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 3 events.
> > ['set_tempo', 0, 500000], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Tempo: q = 120
> > ['key_signature', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Key = C
> > ['time_signature', 0, 4, 2, 24, 8], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Time = 4/4, Click = 24, NoteQ = 8
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #1 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 18 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 0, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 0, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 65, 100], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > On: F3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 65, 0], # 120 001-02-00-00
> > Off: F3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 120 001-02-00-00
> > On: A3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 240 001-03-00-00
> > Off: A3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 240 001-03-00-00
> > On: C4
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 360 001-04-00-00
> > Off: C4
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 76, 100], # 360 001-04-00-00
> > On: E4
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 76, 0], # 480 002-01-00-00
> > Off: E4
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 480 002-01-00-00
> > On: B3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 600 002-02-00-00
> > Off: B3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 600 002-02-00-00
> > On: C4
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 720 002-03-00-00
> > Off: C4
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 720 002-03-00-00
> > On: B3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 840 002-04-00-00
> > Off: B3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 840 002-04-00-00
> > On: A3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 960 003-01-00-00
> > Off: A3
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #2 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 1, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 1, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 1, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #3 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 2, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 2, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 2, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #4 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 3, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 3, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 3, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #5 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 4, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 4, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 4, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #6 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 5, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 5, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 5, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #7 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 6, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 6, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 6, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #8 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 7, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 7, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 7, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > ]
> > });
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Re: midi file

2008-07-12T19:24:08Z

I think I got it working now.

I downloaded Timidity from http://sourceforge.net/projects/twsynth

The timidity.exe file from there is 936 KB.

BUT, the timidity.exe file that I had was 1627 KB. I believe I got that one from here: http://www.timidity.jp/.

Thank you very much!

J. Sawruk

> From: bobby19646075@...

> To: timidity-talk@...
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:59:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] midi file
>
> I did mine under EZ PNO.
> I still have it. I bought back when I bought a Tandy 1000 HX.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johan Vromans" <jvromans@...>
> To: <timidity-talk@...>
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] midi file
>
>
> > "Bobby McNulty" <bobby19646075@...> writes:
> >
> >> Here is a small midi file to test out your timidity.
> >> Jeremy's causes problems under 2.13.2 under windows XP
> >
> > Looks & sounds normal.
> > Timidity 2.13.2, GNU/Linux (Fedora 8)
> >
> > -- Johan
> >
> > MIDI::Opus->new({
> > 'format' => 1,
> > 'ticks' => 120,
> > 'tracks' => [ # 9 tracks...
> >
> > # Track #0 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 3 events.
> > ['set_tempo', 0, 500000], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Tempo: q = 120
> > ['key_signature', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Key = C
> > ['time_signature', 0, 4, 2, 24, 8], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Time = 4/4, Click = 24, NoteQ = 8
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #1 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 18 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 0, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 0, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 65, 100], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > On: F3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 65, 0], # 120 001-02-00-00
> > Off: F3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 120 001-02-00-00
> > On: A3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 240 001-03-00-00
> > Off: A3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 240 001-03-00-00
> > On: C4
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 360 001-04-00-00
> > Off: C4
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 76, 100], # 360 001-04-00-00
> > On: E4
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 76, 0], # 480 002-01-00-00
> > Off: E4
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 480 002-01-00-00
> > On: B3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 600 002-02-00-00
> > Off: B3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 600 002-02-00-00
> > On: C4
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 720 002-03-00-00
> > Off: C4
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 720 002-03-00-00
> > On: B3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 840 002-04-00-00
> > Off: B3
> > ['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 840 002-04-00-00
> > On: A3
> > ['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 960 003-01-00-00
> > Off: A3
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #2 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 1, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 1, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 1, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #3 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 2, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 2, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 2, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #4 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 3, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 3, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 3, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #5 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 4, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 4, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 4, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #6 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 5, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 5, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 5, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #7 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 6, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 6, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 6, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > # Track #8 ...
> > MIDI::Track->new({
> > 'type' => 'MTrk',
> > 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> > ['patch_change', 0, 7, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Channel 7, patch = Acoustic Grand
> > ['control_change', 0, 7, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> > Volume = 127
> > ]
> > }),
> >
> > ]
> > });
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Re: midi file

2008-07-12T15:59:24Z

I did mine under EZ PNO.
I still have it. I bought back when I bought a Tandy 1000 HX.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johan Vromans" <jvromans@...>
To: <timidity-talk@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [timidity-talk] midi file

> "Bobby McNulty" <bobby19646075@...> writes:
>
>> Here is a small midi file to test out your timidity.
>> Jeremy's causes problems under 2.13.2 under windows XP
>
> Looks & sounds normal.
> Timidity 2.13.2, GNU/Linux (Fedora 8)
>
> -- Johan
>
> MIDI::Opus->new({
> 'format' => 1,
> 'ticks' => 120,
> 'tracks' => [ # 9 tracks...
>
> # Track #0 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 3 events.
> ['set_tempo', 0, 500000], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Tempo: q = 120
> ['key_signature', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Key = C
> ['time_signature', 0, 4, 2, 24, 8], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Time = 4/4, Click = 24, NoteQ = 8
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #1 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 18 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 0, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 0, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 65, 100], # 0 001-01-00-00
> On: F3
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 65, 0], # 120 001-02-00-00
> Off: F3
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 120 001-02-00-00
> On: A3
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 240 001-03-00-00
> Off: A3
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 240 001-03-00-00
> On: C4
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 360 001-04-00-00
> Off: C4
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 76, 100], # 360 001-04-00-00
> On: E4
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 76, 0], # 480 002-01-00-00
> Off: E4
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 480 002-01-00-00
> On: B3
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 600 002-02-00-00
> Off: B3
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 600 002-02-00-00
> On: C4
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 720 002-03-00-00
> Off: C4
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 720 002-03-00-00
> On: B3
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 840 002-04-00-00
> Off: B3
> ['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 840 002-04-00-00
> On: A3
> ['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 960 003-01-00-00
> Off: A3
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #2 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 1, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 1, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 1, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #3 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 2, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 2, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 2, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #4 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 3, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 3, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 3, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #5 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 4, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 4, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 4, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #6 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 5, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 5, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 5, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #7 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 6, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 6, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 6, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> # Track #8 ...
> MIDI::Track->new({
> 'type' => 'MTrk',
> 'events' => [ # 2 events.
> ['patch_change', 0, 7, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Channel 7, patch = Acoustic Grand
> ['control_change', 0, 7, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00
> Volume = 127
> ]
> }),
>
> ]
> });
>
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Re: midi file

2008-07-12T12:02:00Z

"Bobby McNulty" <bobby19646075@...> writes:

> Here is a small midi file to test out your timidity.
> Jeremy's causes problems under 2.13.2 under windows XP

Looks & sounds normal.
Timidity 2.13.2, GNU/Linux (Fedora 8)

-- Johan

MIDI::Opus->new({
'format' => 1,
'ticks' => 120,
'tracks' => [ # 9 tracks...

# Track #0 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 3 events.
['set_tempo', 0, 500000], # 0 001-01-00-00 Tempo: q = 120
['key_signature', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Key = C
['time_signature', 0, 4, 2, 24, 8], # 0 001-01-00-00 Time = 4/4, Click = 24, NoteQ = 8
]
}),

# Track #1 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 18 events.
['patch_change', 0, 0, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 0, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 0, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
['note_on', 0, 0, 65, 100], # 0 001-01-00-00 On: F3
['note_on', 120, 0, 65, 0], # 120 001-02-00-00 Off: F3
['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 120 001-02-00-00 On: A3
['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 240 001-03-00-00 Off: A3
['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 240 001-03-00-00 On: C4
['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 360 001-04-00-00 Off: C4
['note_on', 0, 0, 76, 100], # 360 001-04-00-00 On: E4
['note_on', 120, 0, 76, 0], # 480 002-01-00-00 Off: E4
['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 480 002-01-00-00 On: B3
['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 600 002-02-00-00 Off: B3
['note_on', 0, 0, 72, 100], # 600 002-02-00-00 On: C4
['note_on', 120, 0, 72, 0], # 720 002-03-00-00 Off: C4
['note_on', 0, 0, 71, 100], # 720 002-03-00-00 On: B3
['note_on', 120, 0, 71, 0], # 840 002-04-00-00 Off: B3
['note_on', 0, 0, 69, 100], # 840 002-04-00-00 On: A3
['note_on', 120, 0, 69, 0], # 960 003-01-00-00 Off: A3
]
}),

# Track #2 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 1, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 1, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 1, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

# Track #3 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 2, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 2, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 2, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

# Track #4 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 3, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 3, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 3, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

# Track #5 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 4, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 4, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 4, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

# Track #6 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 5, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 5, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 5, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

# Track #7 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 6, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 6, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 6, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

# Track #8 ...
MIDI::Track->new({
'type' => 'MTrk',
'events' => [ # 2 events.
['patch_change', 0, 7, 0], # 0 001-01-00-00 Channel 7, patch = Acoustic Grand
['control_change', 0, 7, 7, 127], # 0 001-01-00-00 Volume = 127
]
}),

]
});

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