Three-legged Stool: Anglican distinctive or authority-channel-changer?

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Matt Williams
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I was reading Chris Seitz's "Figured Out" last night. It was written about 2000. His fourth chapter is excellent for anyone wanting to understand how ECUSA got to where it is today theologically. It is entitled "Scripture and a Three-Legged Stool: Is there a Coherent Account of the Authority of Scripture for Anglicans after Lambeth 1998?"

(Chris Seitz is an Episcopalian Professor who did his PhD under Brevard Childs and has been tenured at Yale and St Andrews, now at Wycliffe Toronto).

Anyway, his bit on the three-legged stool is quite provocative. I thought I'd share it, because it is still often referred to in Melbourne Anglican circles, particularly ordination candidate theological reflection groups, along with the Wesleyan quadrilateral which is open to similar abuses.

Perhaps we need to consider carefully what we are endorsing even by using the image of a stool or a quadrilateral - although we might keep affirming that biblical authority is primary, the equality of three legs or four quarters means the image works against any sense of primacy. I'd be interested in people's thoughts both on the article and how we might better express the usefulness of tradition, reason and experience in images that do not make biblical authority seem optional. Otherwise it's like having three/four parents you can ask for permission whenever you don't like the answer from one or other...


Anyway, at the head of the chapter he quotes what Hooker actually said:

"What Scripture doth plainly deliver, to that the first place both of credit and obedience is due; the next whereunto, is what any man can necessarily conclude by force of Reason; after this, the voice of the church succeedeth." Richard Hooker, Laws of Ecclesiastical Polity, Vol 5.

And in the body of the essay:

"At some point in the twentieth century, Anglican Christians became persuaded that they possessed a special divining rod for discerning Christian truth. Indeed, it was raised to the status of Anglicanism's special signature as such, against the denominational distinctives of others. It so took hold in the last century, in the vacuum created by the loss of a serious, pre-Tractarian doctrine of scripture, that it succeeded in cutting a wide swath through ecclesial discussions before it won a major victory: claim to antiquity and venerable, across-the-ages authority; that is, it became just the sort of comprehensive, sufficiently vague, allegedly distinctive Anglican "principle" needed to do duty once it was no longer clear what Pusey had bee worried about. This principle stood ready to accomodate Anglicans of every stripe, and indeed one might argue that it was the most lethal agent of obfuscation ever foisted upon Christian people, by virtue of its ability to confuse and forestall and shift and defer. The ultimate insult to history was to suggest that Richard Hooker was its progenitor.

'Scripture, reason, tradition' (and its various cousins) is a train able to stop at every station and always add one more carriage. There is practically nothing it cannot accomodate. We should probably not be surprised that an organic notion found in Hooker would be perverted by Western, consumerist Christians and turned into a sort of channel-changer, to find a stool leg to suit. How could homosexual behaviour run this three-legged gauntlet? Is the scripture leg not clear? Would Hooker have regarded scripture as unclear on this matter? The answer is so obvious as to invite sheer puzzlement as to how anything so clear could have become unclear in the intervening centuries. This query into God's will would have been a real home-run ball for Hooker, where he got to touch all three bases and walk into home plate. In Hooker's universe, tradition would have been clear, and reason would have been even clearer. Hooker's natural law appeals are far closer to those of Calvin than of any post-Tractarian. Hooker's natural law was divine law, such as was described in scripture itself. It is precisely the same sort of appeal that Paul makes in Romans 1. Indeed it is uncontroversial that until the nineteenth century, reason and natural law cohered and derived their status as Christian authority because of scripture's own revealed word about creation and God's sovereign design therein (prior to the technological manipulation of all things 'natural'- scare quotes now being required).

The conclusion to be reached is that a vacuum was created after the failure of Anglicanism to retain a doctrine of scripture into the twentieth cntury, and the three-legged stool suddenly emerged as precisely the sort of comprehensive lens needed to accomodate varieties of Anglicans who had simply lost their way. Some could hear it as a very conservative principle, and did; others could see it as a channel-changer for an Anglican TV set inherently diverse and ambiguous. Indeed, it defined what Anglicanism is at its very center: a divinely given "right" to choose, and defer, and study, and then worship (in a Eucharist). At least we should be fair and stop attributing such a view to Hooker.

The most tragic episode in Anglicanism's recourse to the stool is difficult to pinpoint, because the so-called principle is, in the nature of the thing, a study in ambiguity, as soon as it is removed from the environment in which it was originally deployed. Reformed Catholicism of Hooker's day can be dragged only violently into the twentieth century. Legs would get sawed off, inevitably, and then used as clubs: some wielding one, and others another.* It is hard to imagine a better way to mislead and confuse Christians seeking guidance and revelation from a scripture called holy, with a church called catholic, in a world that scripture tells us bears God's design and glory, however poorly perceived by sinful women and men, than by claiming a three-legged stool as a distinctive feature. This would wreak havoc, and indeed it has.

We should not be surprised that the stool is now in the attic. American Episcopalians and much Western Anglicanism inhabit a carriage the train added one day, when the stool seemed insufficient for adjudicating the moral high road claimed by revisionists.  This new carriage is called either 'experience' or, more ominously, 'The Spirit'."

Extract from Christopher R. Seitz: Figured Out: Typology and Providence in Christian Scripture. Louisville: Westminster John Knox, 2001, 59-61.

* Bold mine: this struck me as a vivid image of Anglican synodical 'debate'...
wei-han kuan
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thanks for this matt.

i think it's helpful to note that the quadrilateral is more helpfully thought of as a 'ladder' with scripture at the top (where you start) and experience at the bottom (where you end).  that is, there is a prioritisation in there.  is that just my thinking or is that actually how the quadrilateralists conceived of it?

Matt Williams
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Interesting - I don't actually know what Wesley's own description was. Certainly Gordon Preece drew it as a ladder in our ethics class (with tradition second, rather than third, contra Hooker). But the word 'quadrilateral' strictly means a four-sided polygon of some sort, which can't really be turned into a ladder...

Also the shortcoming of the ladder image is that I'm not sure hierarchy is an adequate understanding. We can't really turn from one authority to another in isolation. It's not as though we can isolate our reading of scripture from tradition, reason or experience; nor can we isolate our experience from the narratives (biblical/traditional/cultural) to which we correspond them and thus make sense of them, or the reason with which we sift which of those narratives offers more apposite correspondence; nor can we isolate our reason from the categories made available to us in scripture/tradition/experience, etc.

In my present understanding the pursuit of Christian truth uses reason, experience and conversation with the communion of saints doing the same thing (both living and preserved in traditional writings) as hermeneutical tools for grappling with scripture (the God-breathed narrative of the Triune God-who-comes). But those hermeneutical tools themselves are shaped by their application to scripture and their application to things other than scripture.

I'm not finding it very easy to distil that into an image!
Andrew Bowles
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Matt Williams wrote:
In my present understanding the pursuit of Christian truth uses reason, experience and conversation with the communion of saints doing the same thing (both living and preserved in traditional writings) as hermeneutical tools for grappling with scripture (the God-breathed narrative of the Triune God-who-comes). But those hermeneutical tools themselves are shaped by their application to scripture and their application to things other than scripture.

I'm not finding it very easy to distil that into an image!
Perhaps it would be like one of those knotted shapes that symbolise the interconnectedness of everything (I think they call them 'mandala'). You're right that reducing it to a to a three or four-pointed image is hopelessly simplistic and leads to naive talk about prioritising one aspect over the other as though they are discrete processes.
Jenny George-2
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Andrew Bowles wrote:
Perhaps it would be like one of those knotted shapes that symbolise the interconnectedness of everything (I think they call them 'mandala'). You're right that reducing it to a to a three or four-pointed image is hopelessly simplistic and leads to naive talk about prioritising one aspect over the other as though they are discrete processes.
Or perhaps a moebius strip?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6bius_strip

Haven't thought about one of those for ages.
Tim Patrick
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I think I learnt something like 'scripture, interpreted using reason, with attention to tradition'. The problem with the stool, channel-changer or ladder models is that while they may allow you to talk about one of the three (or four, if you include experience) as having priority over the others, they can also be understood as letting you lean towards one and thereby render the others irrelevant. But of course, the reality is that this is impossible. You may not like to acknowledge all the factors simultaneously at play, but they are at play!

We need a model that gives unashamed priority to scripture but that also well understands how reason, tradition and experience help us come to it properly. How about a chicken parma? You can't have it without the cheese and tomato, but they're really just there to highlight the chicken itself... mmm...

As a snapshot of what some in Melbourne might think about this, the ADOM Submission regarding Victoria's abortion laws (a document I've had to become too familiar with!) puts it this way, "On ethical and many other issues, Anglicans typically take a middle-ground approach based on our understanding of Scripture in the light of the teachings and history of the Church and of human reasoning." Scripture "in the light of" tradition and reason.
Justin Denholm
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Tim Patrick wrote:
We need a model that gives unashamed priority to scripture but that also well understands how reason, tradition and experience help us come to it properly. How about a chicken parma? You can't have it without the cheese and tomato, but they're really just there to highlight the chicken itself... mmm...
I love it! The Patrick-Chicken-Parma model of interpretation - I'm sure everyone will be using it when poor old Hooker is long forgotten
Stephen Brown
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Hate to sound like a total nuff nuff.

But what ever happened to the Holy Spirit helping us to interpret Scripture.  For me the quad only ever helped me to take my eye off the ball.  Reason, Experience, or Tradition, or Chicken Parma (YUMM) never helped anyone understand Scripture apart from the work of the Holy Spirit I thought.  Maybe we need to stop looking for a 'MODEL'.

Scripture Alone because the the Holy Spirit Alone helps us to understand it and apply it.  Sorry to bring this convo down an academic peg or two.

Steve
Tim Patrick
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Stephen Brown wrote:
Scripture Alone because the the Holy Spirit Alone helps us to understand it and apply it.
This is a helpful corrective - we mustn't forget our pneumatology as we consider our hermeneutics. However, it is still true that reason and tradition and even experience are involved in the interpretive process. We can't escape that fact and mustn't be blind to it. For example, Brownie -  I know that you are a very rational and clear-thinking guy and this is one of the great things about you - God has given you an active and able mind with which to study and understand his Word. This is not something to shy away from, but to be thankful for.

So perhaps the question we need to ask is more like - How does the Spirit work through our reason, through tradition and through our experience to illuminate the Scriptures to us as we humbly sit under them?

This is important for us to think about because a healthy understanding (/ model / whatever) that actually accounts well for all the factors at play will be very helpful to us as we seek to interact with and influence people who have a different approach to reading the Bible (or not reading it as the case may be).
Stephen Brown
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Hi Tim,

Yep, that sounds good.  I reckon reason, tradition, experience, are involved in our understanding of Scripture, but they aren't the catalyst of our understanding, they are the result.  Looking for a model (by the way I like your Chicken Parma Model the best) seems to detract from the Holy Spirit.  We just seem to put the cart before the horse when we start relying on models of interpretation.  I only have a brain that thinks clearly (rather dimly however) because the Spirit by grace has showed me a few things through Scripture.  It has transformed my mind, not my mind that has illuminated Scripture.  I thank God when I see things in Scripture, I don't thank my mind, or experience, or tradition.

We must always remember, the Spirit is sort of hard to pin down, he's like the wind Jesus said.  Hard to contain something like the wind which blows where he wills.  Therefore, I think our models never seem to quite get there for that very reason.

I've been reading JC Ryle's work on Regeneration.  He doesn't set up a model, he just reads Scripture to understand all the various ways the Spirit helps humanity to be awakened and understand the things of God.  How does the Spirit use reason, experience and tradition?  Well I'd say without having thought too much about it, that the Spirit helps us to understand Scripture and then that either correlates with reason, tradition or experience.  If it doesn't then our reason is faulty, tradition is in need of revision, and our experience is deceptive.  T.R.E only confirms what the Holy Spirit reveals.  I suppose I'm saying that the legs don't prop up the seat.  The Scripture is the whole chair, seat and legs.  From this seat we then observe what's on the table (life) and make firm and confident decisions about our experiences, logic, and traditions.  

I hear what you're saying about interacting with others in our Church who read or place Scripture differently.  I think then you are absolutely right, let's use the things on the table (T.R.E) but let's not think they'll (on their own merit) convince anyone of the truth without the work of the Spirit through the word.  The Spirit I think needs to sit us down on his firm seat of Scripture Alone first, then we'll be able to interpret if the bits of life are worthy of God.

I know you probably already agree with all this.  So I suppose I'm asking why don't we start with a theology of how the Spirit uses Scripture before we start engaging with the bits that can distract easily.

I hope that makes some sense?!  Thanks Tim for your timely reminder that we need to think how to engage with others who may approach the Word differently.  That is very real and important question to ask.


Tim Patrick
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Stephen Brown wrote:
I know you probably already agree with all this.
Yup, they're all good thoughts.

So I suppose I'm asking why don't we start with a theology of how the Spirit uses Scripture before we start engaging with the bits that can distract easily.
I think Peter Adam's last two books are probably a good beginning for us on this. Note that his 'Hearing God's Words' is actually a look at a Bible-centric spirituality. He often does a good job of reminding us not to separate what Scripture holds together.