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There's no place like Home
by Shari-2
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Just a grateful thank you that we have the Metacard IDE.
Now that I have to use the Rev IDE somewhere else, I am so grateful to come home to my happy place with Metacard, where everything just works and I don't ever have to say a cuss word. Granted the Rev IDE has some nice features but the things that make me cuss... I'd ruther have my peaceful IDE. So to the Metacard gods and goddesses, I thank you! I send you happy wishes and joyful words with nary a bad word in sight. Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by Shari-2
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>Going to install MC on a new machine. Whats the latest strategy for
>interop with RunRev? Can you switch between the environments? I'm not sure what you mean but you can open a stack in either one, open it in the other one, back to the first one, without a problem (assuming you're quitting the program before relaunching the stack in the other environment.) Stacks aren't glued to the IDE you choose. MC opens .rev stacks without a hitch and plays nice with them in the sandbox. I've had both RunRev and MC open at the same time, but have not attempted to work on a stack in one then the other with both open. I'm guessing there'd be memory issues there. I'm sure others can answer that one better. Sometimes I open Rev for the documentation while working in MC. Shari -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by J. Landman Gay
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Shari wrote:
> I've had both RunRev and MC open at the same time, but have not > attempted to work on a stack in one then the other with both open. I'm > guessing there'd be memory issues there. I'm sure others can answer > that one better. I do this all the time, opening the same stack in both IDEs simultaneously. Since each copy is in its own memory space, there is no conflict. The biggest problem is remembering which version you just saved and not overwriting those changes with the copy in the other IDE. I lost some work once with an accidental "save" on the wrong copy. Mostly I can keep it straight, but you're living on the edge if you try it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@... HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by david bovill
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On a basic note - can't really find installation notes in the group:
On OS X you need to copy the executable from the the Revolution bundle in Revolution.app/Contents/MacOS/Revolution to MetaCard.app/Contents/MacOS/MetaCard Doesn't really any anything about getting the home stack installed :) On the question I asked - my guess is that Richards FlipsIDE.rev is the sort of thing I'm looking for - a switcher between MC and Rev. I mean I don't see why its so hard - shut everything down and open up MC? Galaxy does that? _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by Klaus Major
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Hi David,
> On a basic note - can't really find installation notes in the group: > On OS X you need to copy the executable from the the Revolution > bundle in Revolution.app/Contents/MacOS/Revolution to MetaCard.app/ > Contents/MacOS/MetaCard > Doesn't really any anything about getting the home stack installed :) In the "Files" section of the MC IDE group you will find "metacard_setup10.mc.zip" by Jaqueline Landman Gay which will do exactly what you are after. AND you'll find there "Building MC 2.7.txt" by Ken "the Man" Ray :-), which should also give you more detailed info. > On the question I asked - my guess is that Richards FlipsIDE.rev is > the sort of thing I'm looking for - a switcher between MC and Rev. I > mean I don't see why its so hard - shut everything down and open up > MC? Galaxy does that? No idea, sorry. Best from germany Klaus Major klaus@... http://www.major-k.de _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by david bovill
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Hmmm... still failing on OSX - I've tried changing the pList in copied Rev bundle - renamed things as stated. Put the Home and help and tools stack at the same level for 2.9....
On OS X you need to copy the executable from the the Revolution bundle in Revolution.app/Contents/MacOS/Revolution to MetaCard.app/Contents/MacOS/MetaCard Wander whats up? Something basic I guess. _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by Shari-2
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David,
These are the folders/files in my Metacard build: mchelp.mc mchome.mc mctools.mc MetaCard290.app folder: demo folder: external folder: plugins In the MetaCard bundle: folder: contents pkgInfo: APPLMCRD info.plist folder: resources folder: plugins folder: MacOS in folder resources: MetaCardDoc.icns MetaCard.icns MetaCard.rsrc in folder MacOS: Metacard info.plist contents: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>CFBundleDevelopmentRegion</key> <string>English</string> <key>CFBundleDocumentTypes</key> <array> <dict> <key>CFBundleTypeExtensions</key> <array> <string>mc</string> </array> <key>CFBundleTypeIconFile</key> <string>MetaCardDoc.icns</string> <key>CFBundleTypeName</key> <string>MetaCard Stack</string> <key>CFBundleTypeOSTypes</key> <array> <string>MSTK</string> </array> <key>CFBundleTypeRole</key> <string>Editor</string> </dict> </array> <key>CFBundleExecutable</key> <string>MetaCard</string> <key>CFBundleIdentifier</key> <string>com.metacard.MetaCard</string> <key>CFBundleGetInfoString</key> <string>2.9.0.610, Copyright 2000-2008 Runtime Revolution Ltd.</string> <key>CFBundleIconFile</key> <string>MetaCard.icns</string> <key>CFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion</key> <string>6.0</string> <key>CFBundleLongVersionString</key> <string>2.9.0.610, Copyright 2000-2008 Runtime Revolution Ltd.</string> <key>CFBundleName</key> <string>MetaCard</string> <key>CFBundlePackageType</key> <string>APPL</string> <key>CFBundleShortVersionString</key> <string>2.9.0.610</string> <key>CFBundleSignature</key> <string>MCRD</string> <key>CFBundleVersion</key> <string>2.9.0.610</string> <key>CSResourcesFileMapped</key> <true/> <key>LFPrefersCarbon</key> <true/> <key>LSGetAppDiedEvents</key> <true/> <key>NSAppleScriptEnabled</key> <string>YES</string> <key>NSHumanReadableCopyright</key> <string>Copyright 2000-2008, Runtime Revolution Ltd., All Rights Reserved.</string> <key>UTExportedTypeDeclarations</key> <array> <dict> <key>UTTypeIdentifier</key> <string>com.runrev.revolution.stack</string> <key>UTTypeDescription</key> <string>Metacard Stack</string> <key>UTTypeConformsTo</key> <array> <string>public.data</string> </array> <key>UTTypeTagSpecification</key> <dict> <key>com.apple.macos.ostype</key> <string>MSTK</string> <key>public.filename-extension</key> <array> <string>mc</string> </array> </dict> </dict> </array> </dict> </plist> >Hmmm... still failing on OSX - I've tried changing the pList in >copied Rev bundle - renamed things as stated. Put the Home and help >and tools stack at the same level for 2.9.... > >On OS X you need to copy the executable from the the Revolution >bundle in Revolution.app/Contents/MacOS/Revolution to >MetaCard.app/Contents/MacOS/MetaCard > > > >Wander whats up? Something basic I guess. -- Dogs and bears, sports and cars, and patriots t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by Richard Gaskin
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David Bovill wrote:
> Hmmm... still failing on OSX - I've tried changing the pList in copied Rev > bundle - renamed things as stated. Put the Home and help and tools stack at > the same level for 2.9.... One nice thing about using Jacque's automated setup tool for MC is that it avoids the one mistake that can easily hose an MC Home stack: before attempting to run any MC installation, you must first run and register your Rev installation. Without that, any Home stack will be altered in ways I don't understand but which have made it unusable afterward. But if you first register Rev before attempting to run MC, you can make an Home stack you like: Just name a stack file "mchome.mc", put in anything you want to have it be your IDE (MC's just launches "mctools.mc"), and once the engine verifies that it's been successfully registered it merely looks for "mchome.mc" and opens it, leaving the details of what happens next entirely up to you. I think it's worth taking a moment to express kudos for Kevin and the team for simplifying the creation of other IDEs this way. The current method better enforces their own license, while leaving complete freedom for developers to craft their own environments. Win-win for all. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___________________________________________________________ Ambassador@... http://www.FourthWorld.com _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by Richard Gaskin
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David Bovill wrote:
> On a basic note - can't really find installation notes in the group: > > On OS X you need to copy the executable from the the Revolution bundle in * >> Revolution.app/Contents/MacOS/Revolution* to * >> MetaCard.app/Contents/MacOS/MetaCard* > > > Doesn't really any anything about getting the home stack installed :) > > On the question I asked - my guess is that Richards FlipsIDE.rev is the sort > of thing I'm looking for - a switcher between MC and Rev. I mean I don't see > why its so hard - shut everything down and open up MC? Galaxy does that? Galaxy does a part of that, but still leaves a lot of Rev running. FlipsIDE removes Rev entirely before it loads your specified alternate IDE, but as I noted I believe it's counterproductive to load Rev only to purge it, esp. with the graceful convenience of Jacque's MC install tool. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal _______________________________________________________ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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Re: There's no place like Home
by david bovill
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Thanks Richard - maybe you could advise - I want to develop some plugins for all 3 environments - Rev, MC and Galaxy. At the moment I use Galaxy, but as it looks like I am going to make a custom Script Editor, I thought I would start to use MC again more seriously. "Develop" is not quite the right word, if these were small simple plugins I would probably be happy with separate environments, but the plugins I use currently within the older version of Galaxy are pretty complex.
I don't like the idea of keeping three different version in sync, and the two thought I had was to either use the FlipsIDE approach or to use sym links - which in theory should work fine - but I'm just not confident about. What do you think? _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@... http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard |
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