Terrain generator down?

[Thomas Scheidegger]

Hello all,

I have been struggling with the terrain generator. For some reasons, the
status stays as 'queued', and it seems as if the service is down. Has
the terrain generator been working for anybody recently?

Regards,

Thomas

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[Eric Frias-3]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Thomas Scheidegger
<Thomas.Scheidegger@...> wrote:
> I have been struggling with the terrain generator. For some reasons, the
> status stays as 'queued', and it seems as if the service is down. Has
> the terrain generator been working for anybody recently?

You're right, it looks like it has been broken for a day or two.  We
get waypoint images from another web site,
http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/landsat.cgi, and that server isn't
generating images right now.  This has happened before for a few days,
and eventually they fixed it and our terrain generator started working
again.  I'll see if I can kickstart any requests that don't ask for
waypoint images.

Eric

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[David Salmon]

Just a thought re the waypoint images. It's a nice idea, but are they really
worth having. I tried it recently, and apart from the rather large file,
they were so poor that I couldn't recognise my own home site. Why do we need
them when the map navigates us so accurately?

Dave



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Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Terrain generator down?

> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Thomas Scheidegger
> <Thomas.Scheidegger@...> wrote:
>> I have been struggling with the terrain generator. For some reasons, the
>> status stays as 'queued', and it seems as if the service is down. Has
>> the terrain generator been working for anybody recently?
>
> You're right, it looks like it has been broken for a day or two.  We
> get waypoint images from another web site,
> http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/landsat.cgi, and that server isn't
> generating images right now.  This has happened before for a few days,
> and eventually they fixed it and our terrain generator started working
> again.  I'll see if I can kickstart any requests that don't ask for
> waypoint images.
>
> Eric
>
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[Kenneth J Flaton]

I like to use the images when planning a flight or long tow. I'd like  
to think it gives me some idea of what I might be getting myself  
into... literally and figuratively. Some of the fields we have here in  
the northeast are a little sketchy.  Besides, when demoing XCSoar,  
those pix never fail to impress friends, colleagues, and fellow pilots.

That said, I lost the secret formula that made the images appear for  
me on my PDA (names don't match, wrong directory, what?!), so I'm  
flying blind. Haven't hurt myself so far. Probably safe to proceed  
without them. :-)

--ken

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> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:22:58 +0100
> From: "David  Salmon" <davekaysalmon@...>
> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Terrain generator down?
> To: "Eric Frias" <efrias@...>, "Thomas Scheidegger"
> <Thomas.Scheidegger@...>
> Cc: xcsoar-user@...
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> Just a thought re the waypoint images. It's a nice idea, but are  
> they really
> worth having. I tried it recently, and apart from the rather large  
> file,
> they were so poor that I couldn't recognise my own home site. Why do  
> we need
> them when the map navigates us so accurately?
>
> Dave

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[John Wharington-3]

The idea originally behind the waypoint images was that one could use
whatever source they had available for images, including making extracts
from Enroute Supplements etc.

Because of some minor limitations in the way the new map files are
generated the xcm files do not contain the images and I've somewhat lost
interest in the function itself --- so I'm somewhat pleased that someone
out there actually used them.  I thought I would (and of source saw the
logic of why it would be useful) but in real life never had.


On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 15:33 -0400, Kenneth Flaton wrote:

> I like to use the images when planning a flight or long tow. I'd like  
> to think it gives me some idea of what I might be getting myself  
> into... literally and figuratively. Some of the fields we have here in  
> the northeast are a little sketchy.  Besides, when demoing XCSoar,  
> those pix never fail to impress friends, colleagues, and fellow pilots.
>
> That said, I lost the secret formula that made the images appear for  
> me on my PDA (names don't match, wrong directory, what?!), so I'm  
> flying blind. Haven't hurt myself so far. Probably safe to proceed  
> without them. :-)
>
> --ken
>
> On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:02 PM, xcsoar-user-request@...  
> wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:22:58 +0100
> > From: "David  Salmon" <davekaysalmon@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Terrain generator down?
> > To: "Eric Frias" <efrias@...>, "Thomas Scheidegger"
> > <Thomas.Scheidegger@...>
> > Cc: xcsoar-user@...
> > Message-ID: <000901c8d638$18429af0$6401a8c0@ASW20FL>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Just a thought re the waypoint images. It's a nice idea, but are  
> > they really
> > worth having. I tried it recently, and apart from the rather large  
> > file,
> > they were so poor that I couldn't recognise my own home site. Why do  
> > we need
> > them when the map navigates us so accurately?
> >
> > Dave
>
>
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[John Wharington-3]

As my other post mentioned, I'd originally planned to get some better
information on that page, e.g. a proper diagram from ERSA which could
contain information like runway names, circuit directions etc.

And I originally thought it would be useful flying into an area to know
roughly what the airport looked like.  But you're right, the colouring
of the landsat images are so unnatural that there's arguable benefit.


On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 21:22 +0100, David Salmon wrote:
> Just a thought re the waypoint images. It's a nice idea, but are they really
> worth having. I tried it recently, and apart from the rather large file,
> they were so poor that I couldn't recognise my own home site. Why do we need
> them when the map navigates us so accurately?
>
> Dave



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[Scott Penrose]

On 27/06/2008, at 1:10 AM, John Wharington wrote:
>
> Because of some minor limitations in the way the new map files are
> generated the xcm files do not contain the images and I've somewhat  
> lost
> interest in the function itself --- so I'm somewhat pleased that  
> someone
> out there actually used them.  I thought I would (and of source saw  
> the
> logic of why it would be useful) but in real life never had.

I used to use them all the time before a flight. I would find my  
landing locations and turn points to see what they looked like.

But I have to say that I have not used them for the past 2 seasons. I  
think this is mostly an experience thing. It was a useful feature  
before I knew my area.

That being said, I still fly new places, but I tend to study them now  
on google maps.

So like Johnny, I am pleased it is used, and my gut says it should  
still be there, but I no longer use them.

Scott


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[Thomas Scheidegger]

I have not asked for Waypoint Images any more, and still it doesn't seem to be working. The other day it progressed from 'queued' to the next step, but that's where it stopped.

Thomas

Thomas Scheidegger wrote:

Hello all,

I have been struggling with the terrain generator. For some reasons, the
status stays as 'queued', and it seems as if the service is down. Has
the terrain generator been working for anybody recently?

Regards,

Thomas

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[Eric Frias-3]

Just a quick update: NASA's Landsat image server is running again, so
I'm re-enabling the waypoint image generation.  If anyone requested
terrain with waypoint images in the last two weeks, there's a good
chance your request was ignored.  If you requested terrain without
waypoint images, they may have been ignored anyway because of a bug
(oops).  You can re-submit your requests now and they should go
through.

Eric

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[David Lawley]

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Hi All,

Anyone else getting list spam, I seem to be getting 5-10 per week.

Can we stop it?

Regards

Dave L

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[David Salmon]

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Yes, I get about the same.

 

Dave

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Hi All,

Anyone else getting list spam, I seem to be getting 5-10 per week.

Can we stop it?

Regards

Dave L

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[Sylvain BURGER]

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Yes,

I get it too.

Sylvain.

David Salmon a écrit :

Yes, I get about the same.

 

Dave

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Regards

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[Scott Penrose]

On 04/07/2008, at 11:54 PM, Sylvain BURGER wrote:

> Yes,
>
> I get it too.

Hey Guys. It is an email list, so everyone gets everything sent to it,  
including Spam.

As for how to stop it, I am not sure.

Scott


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Scott

Would it be fair to say you are the mailing list owner?  There seems to be a way to get help from nabble.  See here http://www.nabble.com/help/Answer.jtp?id=22

With registration being required to post to the list, how does the spam get through I wonder?

Keith

Scott Penrose wrote:

On 04/07/2008, at 11:54 PM, Sylvain BURGER wrote:

> Yes,
>
> I get it too.

Hey Guys. It is an email list, so everyone gets everything sent to it,  
including Spam.

As for how to stop it, I am not sure.

Scott


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