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by Gordon Sande :: Rate this Message:

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I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.

RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.

Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.

What have I managed to miss?

Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
problem would be welcome.

Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
Not a great start.





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Re: Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything

by J. Landman Gay :: Rate this Message:

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Gordon Sande wrote:

>
> I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
> in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
> the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.
>
> RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
> language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
> input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.
>
> Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
> to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
> my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
> find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
> feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
> various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
> polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.
>
> What have I managed to miss?
>
> Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
> of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
> would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
> problem would be welcome.
>
> Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
> the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
> the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
> Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
> not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
> Not a great start.

Agreed. Eventually Revolution's "table field" will be replaced with a
real table object, but that's off in the future a ways. It's high on
everyone's wish list though. In the mean time, the mailing list archives
are a great resource for this kind of esoteric info. I use GMane but
there are others. Here's a link to some info that pretty much explains
what you're looking for:

<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/69336/match=table+field>

If you search GMane for "table field" you'll get lots of other hits too.

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Re: Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything

by Paul Looney-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Gordon,
Request 670, real table fields, has been the most asked for Rev  
feature for approximately five years!
Someday? Maybe?
I agree with you that it would be most helpful - see my post to  
Bugzilla in 2005.
If you have not already discovered it, you will encounter another  
problem using the existing table for spreadsheet-like calculated  
fields: you can only align the numbers to the left.
At this point I can't honestly say that more votes will help but it  
probably can't hurt.
Paul Looney

On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Gordon Sande wrote:

>
> I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
> in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
> the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.
>
> RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
> language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
> input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.
>
> Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
> to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
> my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
> find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
> feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
> various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
> polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.
>
> What have I managed to miss?
>
> Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
> of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
> would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
> problem would be welcome.
>
> Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
> the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
> the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
> Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
> not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
> Not a great start.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything

by Eric Chatonet :: Rate this Message:

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Bonjour Gordon,

Le 22 juil. 08 à 22:25, Gordon Sande a écrit :

> I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
> in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
> the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.
>
> RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
> language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
> input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.
>
> Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
> to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
> my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
> find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
> feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
> various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
> polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.
>
> What have I managed to miss?
>
> Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
> of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
> would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
> problem would be welcome.
>
> Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
> the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
> the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
> Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
> not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
> Not a great start.

Table fields are an unfinished feature at the moment, more fields  
than tables :-)
Nevertheless 'How to Manage Table Fields' tutorial might help you:
This stack, which comprises a Lab section and an Explanations  
section, explains table fields and all the aspects that for the  
moment are still not documented.
Fully commented scripts lets you start working with them at once.
You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free  
plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to  
display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.
You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section.

Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.
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by Gordon Sande-2 :: Rate this Message:

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> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:27:43 +0200
> From: Eric Chatonet <eric.chatonet@...>
> Subject: Re: Table Field documentation/tutorials/hints/anything
> To: How to use Revolution <use-revolution@...>
>
> Bonjour Gordon,
>
> Le 22 juil. 08 à 22:25, Gordon Sande a écrit :
>
>> I was hoping to use RunRev to display some calculated data
>> in spreadsheet like displays. To be useful I need to select
>> the data to be displayed in each of several such displays.
>>
>> RunRev looked like it might be a good tool. A nice programing
>> language with easy control of graphical output under interactive
>> input. 2.9 Revolution Media seemed like an easy start.
>>
>> Then I read section 4.2.23 on Table Field Control and tried
>> to find anything else. The search command must be broken on
>> my copy of the documentation as I found nothing else. I did
>> find one tutorial which explained that this was an experimental
>> feature as of 2.5 which was both undocumented and subject to
>> various bugs. Lots of custom properties and arcane addressing
>> polynomials to select fields with do-it-yourself handlers.
>>
>> What have I managed to miss?
>>
>> Citations of further documentation would be welcome. Web URLs
>> of examples or tutorials would sure help. Any other hints
>> would also be welcome. Even other solutions to my display
>> problem would be welcome.
>>
>> Eventually I will want to control the size of the cells,
>> the weight of the cell boundaries, the font and styling of
>> the contents and have the displays scroll in their windows.
>> Printing is also on the ToDo list but at this point I can
>> not even figure out how to get any values into a table.
>> Not a great start.
>
> Table fields are an unfinished feature at the moment, more fields
> than tables :-)
> Nevertheless 'How to Manage Table Fields' tutorial might help you:
> This stack, which comprises a Lab section and an Explanations
> section, explains table fields and all the aspects that for the
> moment are still not documented.
> Fully commented scripts lets you start working with them at once.
> You will access this tutorial through "Tutorials Picker" a free
> plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to
> display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web.
> You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/
> Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section.

Thank you. I had found your tutorial stack with its comments on
the state of "table fields" in 2.5. Not much seems to have changed
since it was written.

A full blown table is more complicated if one wants custom shading,
custom borders and custom styling for each cell. Then add on merging
and/or splitting and even diagonal splitting and it is even more fun.

I notice that the recent Pages and Nisus Writer Pro seem to be both
more powerful and easier to use than the tables in some older products
so I would guess there are now better models of what is required.

I was thinking of fairly simple layouts but with more elaborate styling
within cells. Sounds like I will quickly get beyond the "out of the box"
capabilities. I had found your tutorial several different places so
will work through it. Appears to be a good start for my problem.

It would be nice if a full table was in 3.0 but no one has hinted that
it might be coming even soon.

> Best regards from Paris,
> Eric Chatonet.
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