Something stopping Gimp loading

[Thomas H. George-3]

Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.  I
can find no clue in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log so I have used
dpkg --purge to remove a number of programs to no avail.  I have done a
number of apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade runs since I last used
Gimp.  Although the upgrades were quite large I assume they are not the
problem since I have seen nothing on the list about this problem.

Any suggestions of what to try next would be most welcome.

Tom


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[Paul Johnson]

On Saturday 17 May 2008 11:00:54 am Thomas H. George wrote:
> Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.  I
> can find no clue in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log so I have used
> dpkg --purge to remove a number of programs to no avail.

Those logs only handle system process output, not user processes.  You'll need
to run gimp in a terminal or check your ~/.xsession-errors for gimp's output.

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[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.  I
> can find no clue in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log so I have used
> dpkg --purge to remove a number of programs to no avail.  I have done a
> number of apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade runs since I last used
> Gimp.  Although the upgrades were quite large I assume they are not the
> problem since I have seen nothing on the list about this problem.
>
> Any suggestions of what to try next would be most welcome.

Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
error messages will appear.

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[Thomas H. George-3]

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 01:25:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

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> On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> > Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.  I
> > can find no clue in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log so I have used
> > dpkg --purge to remove a number of programs to no avail.  I have done a
> > number of apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade runs since I last used
> > Gimp.  Although the upgrades were quite large I assume they are not the
> > problem since I have seen nothing on the list about this problem.
> >
> > Any suggestions of what to try next would be most welcome.
>
> Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
> error messages will appear.
>

Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
following message:

gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext

Tom

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[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/17/08 16:47, Thomas H. George wrote:

> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 01:25:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
>>>> Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
>>>> Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.  I
>>>> can find no clue in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log so I have used
>>>> dpkg --purge to remove a number of programs to no avail.  I have done a
>>>> number of apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade runs since I last used
>>>> Gimp.  Although the upgrades were quite large I assume they are not the
>>>> problem since I have seen nothing on the list about this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions of what to try next would be most welcome.
> Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
> error messages will appear.
>
>> Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
>> following message:
>
>> gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext

That there is... a bug.  But you probably figured that out. :)

Have you ever used "reportbug"?

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[Florian Kulzer-3]

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 17:47:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 01:25:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> > > Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.

[...]

> > Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
> > error messages will appear.
> >
> Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
> following message:
>
> gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext

This symbol is defined in libglib-2.0.so.0, which is part of the
libglib2.0-0 package. Something is wrong with this package on your
system, or you have a more general problem with your dynamic linker.
Please post the output of the following commands:

nm -D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | grep g_dpgettext

ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*

dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'

/sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0

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[Thomas H. George-3]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 03:11:24PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 17:47:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 01:25:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> > > > Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.
>
> [...]
>
> > > Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
> > > error messages will appear.
> > >
> > Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
> > following message:
> >
> > gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext
>
> This symbol is defined in libglib-2.0.so.0, which is part of the
> libglib2.0-0 package. Something is wrong with this package on your
> system, or you have a more general problem with your dynamic linker.
> Please post the output of the following commands:
>
> nm -D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | grep g_dpgettext
>
> ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*
>
> dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'
>
> /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
>

Script started on Sun 18 May 2008 09:28:05 AM EDT
tom@Phoenix:~$ nm _-D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.s0.0o.0 | grep g_dpgettext
0000000000054180 T g_dpgettext
tom@Phoenix:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     23 2008-05-13 08:37 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.3
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 771320 2008-04-11 17:33 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.3
tom@Phoenix:~$ dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'
ii libglib2.0-0
tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig pNX | grep libglib-2.0
/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `pNX' used to build cache
tom@Phoenix:~$ exit

Script done on Sun 18 May 2008 09:33:29 AM EDT

Tom
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[Florian Kulzer-3]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:38:45 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:

> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 03:11:24PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 17:47:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 01:25:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > > Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> > > > > Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
> > > > error messages will appear.
> > > >
> > > Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
> > > following message:
> > >
> > > gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext
> >
> > This symbol is defined in libglib-2.0.so.0, which is part of the
> > libglib2.0-0 package. Something is wrong with this package on your
> > system, or you have a more general problem with your dynamic linker.
> > Please post the output of the following commands:
> >
> > nm -D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | grep g_dpgettext
> >
> > ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*
> >
> > dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'
> >
> > /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
> >
>
> Script started on Sun 18 May 2008 09:28:05 AM EDT
> tom@Phoenix:~$ nm -D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | grep g_dpgettext
> 0000000000054180 T g_dpgettext

OK, the symbol is defined.

> tom@Phoenix:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     23 2008-05-13 08:37 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.3
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 771320 2008-04-11 17:33 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.3

Hmm, I have a /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so symlink (to the same *.1600.3
file) in addition to the one that your output shows.

> tom@Phoenix:~$ dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'
> ii libglib2.0-0
> tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig pNX | grep libglib-2.0
> /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `pNX' used to build cache

That should have been "-pNX" there.

> tom@Phoenix:~$ exit
>
> Script done on Sun 18 May 2008 09:33:29 AM EDT

Please run the ldconfig command again with the correct syntax. I would
furthermore like to see the result of:

ldd `which gimp` | grep libglib-2.0

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[Thomas H. George-3]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:47:20PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:38:45 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 03:11:24PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 17:47:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 01:25:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On 05/17/08 13:00, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > > > > Something I have installed stops Gimp from loading - that is the little
> > > > > > Gimp picture flashes on the screen briefly and then the load aborts.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > Open a command window and run it from there.  Hopefully some useful
> > > > > error messages will appear.
> > > > >
> > > > Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
> > > > following message:
> > > >
> > > > gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext
> > >
> > > This symbol is defined in libglib-2.0.so.0, which is part of the
> > > libglib2.0-0 package. Something is wrong with this package on your
> > > system, or you have a more general problem with your dynamic linker.
> > > Please post the output of the following commands:
> > >
> > > nm -D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | grep g_dpgettext
> > >
> > > ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*
> > >
> > > dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'
> > >
> > > /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
> > >
> >
> > Script started on Sun 18 May 2008 09:28:05 AM EDT
> > tom@Phoenix:~$ nm -D /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | grep g_dpgettext
> > 0000000000054180 T g_dpgettext
>
> OK, the symbol is defined.
>
> > tom@Phoenix:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so*
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     23 2008-05-13 08:37 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 -> libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.3
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 771320 2008-04-11 17:33 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.3
>
> Hmm, I have a /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so symlink (to the same *.1600.3
> file) in addition to the one that your output shows.
>
> > tom@Phoenix:~$ dpkg -l libglib2.0\* | awk '/^i/{print $1, $2}'
> > ii libglib2.0-0
> > tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig pNX | grep libglib-2.0
> > /sbin/ldconfig: relative path `pNX' used to build cache
>
> That should have been "-pNX" there.
>
> > tom@Phoenix:~$ exit
> >
> > Script done on Sun 18 May 2008 09:33:29 AM EDT
>
> Please run the ldconfig command again with the correct syntax. I would
> furthermore like to see the result of:
>
> ldd `which gimp` | grep libglib-2.0

Script started on Sun 18 May 2008 05:12:50 PM EDT
tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
        libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
        libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
        libglib-2.0.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so
tom@Phoenix:~$ ldd `which gimp` \| grep libglib-2.0
        libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b5b4ecea000)
tom@Phoenix:~$ exit

Script done on Sun 18 May 2008 05:16:10 PM EDT

Thanks for your help,

Tom
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[Daniel Burrows]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 05:20:31PM -0400, "Thomas H. George" <lists@...> was heard to say:

> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:47:20PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > Please run the ldconfig command again with the correct syntax. I would
> > furthermore like to see the result of:
> >
> > ldd `which gimp` | grep libglib-2.0
>
>
> Script started on Sun 18 May 2008 05:12:50 PM EDT
> tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
> libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
> libglib-2.0.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so
> tom@Phoenix:~$ ldd `which gimp` \| grep libglib-2.0
> libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b5b4ecea000)
> tom@Phoenix:~$ exit
>
> Script done on Sun 18 May 2008 05:16:10 PM EDT

  It looks like you have a copy of glib installed in /usr/local.  I bet
that's your problem: moving it out of the way should fix things.  You
may want to figure out why it's installed first, though, to avoid
breaking anything else in the process.

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[Florian Kulzer-3]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 17:20:31 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:47:20PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 09:38:45 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 03:11:24PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 17:47:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:

[...]

> > > > > Right.  I opened a terminal window, tried to start Gimp, and got the
> > > > > following message:
> > > > >
> > > > > gimp: symbol lookup error: gimp: undefined symbol: g_dpgettext
> > > >
> > > > This symbol is defined in libglib-2.0.so.0, which is part of the
> > > > libglib2.0-0 package. Something is wrong with this package on your
> > > > system, or you have a more general problem with your dynamic linker.

[...]

> Script started on Sun 18 May 2008 05:12:50 PM EDT
> tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
>         libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>         libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>         libglib-2.0.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so
> tom@Phoenix:~$ ldd `which gimp` | grep libglib-2.0
>         libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b5b4ecea000)
> tom@Phoenix:~$ exit
>
> Script done on Sun 18 May 2008 05:16:10 PM EDT

You have a non-debian version of libglib-2.0.so.0 in /usr/local/lib/. It
seems to be broken or at least outdated. I would get rid of it. (The
linker gives precedence to libraries in /usr/local/lib because it
assumes that the sysadmin deliberately put them there to override the
normal system libraries.)

Your Gimp should work again as soon as it uses the correct library in
/usr/lib/. You may have to run "ldconfig" as root after you remove the
other file to rebuild the linker's cache. You can check with the
"ldd..." command above if Gimp uses /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.

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[Thomas H. George-3]

Culprit deleted, all is well.

Thanks again,
        Tom


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[Joost Witteveen-4]

> tom@Phoenix:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -pNX | grep libglib-2.0
>        libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>        libglib-2.0.so.0 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
>        libglib-2.0.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so
> tom@Phoenix:~$ ldd `which gimp` \  [K| grep libglib-2.0
>        libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00002b5b4ecea000)

So, somehow you've installed another libglib-2.0 in /usr/local, and I
suppose it's using that. Remove the one in /usr/local/lib, and I
suppose everything will be fine again.


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