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Solution to energy crisis.
by R22RumRunner
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Re: Solution to energy crisis.
by R22MikeW
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Rummy,
Looks very interesting. Clever idea to increase yield, not just for energy but all agricultural products. The question is, "How many of these systems are being tested now with the current energy situation and which will win out?" I am reminded of VHS vs. BetaMax or HD vs. Blu. All great ideas, but the winner isn't always the best. The stock, VCTPF, is at $0.53 today but had been at $0.99 earlier this year. One must ask, "What happened?" Can they make rum from algae? Mike s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81) Nissequogue River, NY From: <R22RumRunner@...>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:35 AM > _Click here: Untitled Document_ > (http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html) > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Solution to energy crisis.
by Brad Haslett-2
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Rummy,
Boeing believes in algae! http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/aviation-gets-b.html Someone may very well unlock the door to success here. I know there will be all kinds of cries for government funding, but the government will pick winners and losers based on who has the most political clout or who writes the best funding grant. Uhhh, the Corn Lobby comes to mind. Boeing has a lot to lose if we don't find an alternative and they and other interested parties are funding research. The worst thing that could happen is if oil becomes "cheap" again. In the meantime, we need to drill until the winner of this race appears. From an investor point of view, the victors in alternative fuel will be much like the giants of radio/television, computer software, and other natural oligopoly businesses. If algae is viable, it will be done - by the few who remain. Brad On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:35 AM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > _Click here: Untitled Document_ > (http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html) > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Solution to energy crisis.
by R22MikeW
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Rummy,
It dipped to $0.49 at around 3pm before recovering to $0.53 at 3:30pm, a whopping 8% ROI in less than an hour! It appears to have closed at $0.52, +4% on the day! Not bad for a little OTC company. WSJ & Bloomberg both like it. Hopefully it is not a PnD stock. Has anyone seen any emails on VCTPF? Mike s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81) Nissequogue River, NY From: <R22RumRunner@...>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:41 PM > Brad, > I couldn't pass this up. I've purchased 500 shares of Valcent just in case > it turns into the next Microsnot. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 7/16/2008 1:37:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > flybrad@... writes: > > Rummy, > > Boeing believes in algae! > > http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/aviation-gets-b.html > > Someone may very well unlock the door to success here. I know there will > be > all kinds of cries for government funding, but the government will pick > winners and losers based on who has the most political clout or who > writes > the best funding grant. Uhhh, the Corn Lobby comes to mind. Boeing has a > lot to lose if we don't find an alternative and they and other interested > parties are funding research. The worst thing that could happen is if > oil > becomes "cheap" again. In the meantime, we need to drill until the > winner > of this race appears. From an investor point of view, the victors in > alternative fuel will be much like the giants of radio/television, > computer > software, and other natural oligopoly businesses. If algae is viable, it > will be done - by the few who remain. > > Brad > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:35 AM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > >> _Click here: Untitled Document_ >> (http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html) >> >> >> >> **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live >> music >> scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! >> (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Solution to energy crisis.
by Brad Haslett-2
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Rummy,
Certainly a much better bet than lotto tickets. If the idea didn't have merit Boeing wouldn't be funding research on algae in New Zealand (BTW, you can't buy shares in that company because of US securities laws protecting you from yourself). There will be some winners who invent the most efficient process (who knows-could be Valcent) and some winners because of economies of scale. If it works, builders of diesel engines will be big winners (you go Tennessee VW!) I'm not usually one for 'gubment' meddling in markets but I've been pretty consistent over the years of wanting to wean ourselves off imported oil. We could do that by taxing carbon outputs which would kill off ethanol (barely better than crude oil) and would favor algae. I still think global warming is a crock but carbon is the key to everything, ie, crude oil holds more carbon density than any other fuel which is why my airplane needs the stuff so badly and makes crude so difficult to replace as a transportation fuel. A carbon tax would also make nukes a no-brainer over coal-fired electricity. And yes, that will be the political fight from hell with the various industries jockeying for position. A solution is out there somewhere and the market will find it, in the meantime, we need more oil wells to keep the economy lubed and running until the next generation fuel is ready. Someone is going to make some money, may as well be you! Brad On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > Brad, > I couldn't pass this up. I've purchased 500 shares of Valcent just in case > it turns into the next Microsnot. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 7/16/2008 1:37:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > flybrad@... writes: > > Rummy, > > Boeing believes in algae! > > http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/aviation-gets-b.html > > Someone may very well unlock the door to success here. I know there will > be > all kinds of cries for government funding, but the government will pick > winners and losers based on who has the most political clout or who writes > the best funding grant. Uhhh, the Corn Lobby comes to mind. Boeing has a > lot to lose if we don't find an alternative and they and other interested > parties are funding research. The worst thing that could happen is if oil > becomes "cheap" again. In the meantime, we need to drill until the winner > of this race appears. From an investor point of view, the victors in > alternative fuel will be much like the giants of radio/television, > computer > software, and other natural oligopoly businesses. If algae is viable, it > will be done - by the few who remain. > > Brad > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:35 AM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > > > _Click here: Untitled Document_ > > (http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html) > > > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > > music > > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Solution to energy crisis.
by Brad Haslett-2
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Rummy,
Here's a new (actually old) idea on nukes and may be the future, especially since all tar sands and coal conversion technologies require lots of heat for the process. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/4273386.html IMO, the nuclear waste issue is way overblown. It certainly doesn't bother France or China. But, here's a solution for the US, shove all spent energy rods up Harry Reid's ass! Brad On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:50 PM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > The nukes certainly aren't the answer to our problems. First of all, there > is a highly depleted construction industry with little or no experience in > building the things. There are only two company's that can mold the huge > containment vessels and other parts. One is in China and the other in > France I > believe. Getting a nuke plant built within budget is another huge problem. > As far > as I know it's never been done. Then there is the problem of what to do > with > the spent rods (I won't go there). France generates 80% of their energy > from > nukes and even they haven't figured out what to do with the stuff. > American ingenuity will hopefully solve the energy problem and leave the > Arabs eating their oil and sand. There are many approached to the problem > and > I'm sure there isn't one sure fire one that will solve our energy needs. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 7/16/2008 5:20:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > flybrad@... writes: > > Rummy, > > Certainly a much better bet than lotto tickets. If the idea didn't have > merit Boeing wouldn't be funding research on algae in New Zealand (BTW, > you > can't buy shares in that company because of US securities laws protecting > you from yourself). There will be some winners who invent the most > efficient process (who knows-could be Valcent) and some winners because of > economies of scale. If it works, builders of diesel engines will be big > winners (you go Tennessee VW!) I'm not usually one for 'gubment' meddling > in markets but I've been pretty consistent over the years of wanting to > wean > ourselves off imported oil. We could do that by taxing carbon outputs > which > would kill off ethanol (barely better than crude oil) and would favor > algae. > I still think global warming is a crock but carbon is the key to > everything, > ie, crude oil holds more carbon density than any other fuel which is why > my > airplane needs the stuff so badly and makes crude so difficult to replace > as > a transportation fuel. A carbon tax would also make nukes a no-brainer > over > coal-fired electricity. And yes, that will be the political fight from > hell > with the various industries jockeying for position. A solution is out > there > somewhere and the market will find it, in the meantime, we need more oil > wells to keep the economy lubed and running until the next generation fuel > is ready. > > Someone is going to make some money, may as well be you! > > Brad > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > > > Brad, > > I couldn't pass this up. I've purchased 500 shares of Valcent just in > case > > it turns into the next Microsnot. > > > > Rummy > > > > > > In a message dated 7/16/2008 1:37:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > flybrad@... writes: > > > > Rummy, > > > > Boeing believes in algae! > > > > http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/06/aviation-gets-b.html > > > > Someone may very well unlock the door to success here. I know there > will > > be > > all kinds of cries for government funding, but the government will pick > > winners and losers based on who has the most political clout or who > writes > > the best funding grant. Uhhh, the Corn Lobby comes to mind. Boeing has > a > > lot to lose if we don't find an alternative and they and other > interested > > parties are funding research. The worst thing that could happen is if > oil > > becomes "cheap" again. In the meantime, we need to drill until the > winner > > of this race appears. From an investor point of view, the victors in > > alternative fuel will be much like the giants of radio/television, > > computer > > software, and other natural oligopoly businesses. If algae is viable, > it > > will be done - by the few who remain. > > > > Brad > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:35 AM, <R22RumRunner@...> wrote: > > > > > _Click here: Untitled Document_ > > > (http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html) > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the > live > > > music > > > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > > > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > > __________________________________________________ > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go > to > > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > > music > > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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