Sleuthing for information - another tack on trivia

[ADavidhazy-2]

OK ... I decided it is IMPOSSIBLE to ask trivia questions from my
students because it is so easy to find answers to _all_ trivia
questions using search engines instead of books. So I decided to try
somethig different. And then I decided to share this with you all
on PhotoForum for your amusement.

The following offer only applies to my students!! The first person
who correctly answers the following questions gets a previously
enjoyed radio & CD player or a Hershey bar with almonds. Winners choice.

See this:

http://people.rit.edu/andpph/a-pix/Untitled-1A.jpg

now answer these questions:

1. Who is the "principal" person depicted in this photograph?

2. When (year ... month ... day) was the photograph made?

3. How many people are included in the photograph?

4. Where exactly was the photograph made?

5. Who made the photograph?

The person who answers the most questions correctly wins if by Tuesday,
July 1, 2008 nobody has answered all of them correctly.

adios!
andy

[karl shah-jenner]

Here's a new problem for Vista users, aside from all the others.

the problem is that Vista won't format in FAT32 to anything bigger than 32Gb (even though Windows 98 can format FAT32 to 8 TB) - now we're seeing USB devices bigger than 32Gb and probably soon, more storage cards around or above this size..




http://padraic2112.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/windows-vista-fat1632-support/

under MS Vista "people who use flash memory cards (say, for a digital camera) are going to have problems. If I connect my digital camera via USB, it shows up as a drive. If I'm thinking about cleaning out all the pictures on my camera, I may choose to format the card... "

but it'll be NTFS

"Well, your digital camera won't read an NTFS partition, so if you format your card. you're going to have to ".. etc

[karl shah-jenner]

me:
: Here's a new problem for Vista users, aside from all the others.

argh..

email got away from me..

the othr problem in XP/Vista is that when you plug in an external device, the OS looks for a hardware toggle that labels the device as "removable".  About 99.98% of USB keys are built this way.  If the device declares itself to be removable, XP/Vista will only read one partition on that drive, namely the first.

so unless the workaround is enacted, anything larger than 32Bg may be partitioned into 32Gb lumps, but after that the only partition then seen by the Operating System will be the first 32Gb


computers!

k

[trevor cunningham]

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1. Who is the "principal" person depicted in this photograph?
Robert F. Kennedy

2. When (year ... month ... day) was the photograph made?
my guess is 1965 ... October ... 23rd ... I believe it was a Saturday

3. How many people are included in the photograph?
16

4. Where exactly was the photograph made?
"made": in someone's darkroom?
taken: in front of the old eastman building on plymouth ave north?

5. Who made the photograph?
I'm going to guess that you made this photo, andy

The person who answers the most questions correctly wins if by Tuesday,
July 1, 2008 nobody has answered all of them correctly.

adios!
andy

[Bob W8IMO]

I thought I read here, and other photo places, that the only way to format a media card for a camera is IN THE CAMERA......

Bob

karl shah-jenner wrote:

Here's a new problem for Vista users, aside from all the others.

the problem is that Vista won't format in FAT32 to anything bigger than 32Gb (even though Windows 98 can format FAT32 to 8 TB) - now we're seeing USB devices bigger than 32Gb and probably soon, more storage cards around or above this size..




http://padraic2112.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/windows-vista-fat1632-support/

under MS Vista "people who use flash memory cards (say, for a digital camera) are going to have problems. If I connect my digital camera via USB, it shows up as a drive. If I'm thinking about cleaning out all the pictures on my camera, I may choose to format the card... "

but it'll be NTFS

"Well, your digital camera won't read an NTFS partition, so if you format your card. you're going to have to ".. etc





  

[David Dyer-Bennet]

On Fri, June 27, 2008 04:50, Trevor Cunningham wrote:

> 3. How many people are included in the photograph?
> 16

Is there a third person in the front seat that I'm missing, or somebody in
a building window, or what?

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[karl shah-jenner]

From: "Bob" <w8imo@...>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators Subject: Re: formatting under Vista®


: I thought I read here, and other photo places, that the only way to
: format a media card for a camera is IN THE CAMERA......




that's an oft cited message - especially iportant for those who use XD or SM card, these being found only (?) in P&S cameras.  It's MOST important in these cases as there are card and manufacturer incompatibilities and as recently discussed, even card reader/card incompatibilities.

PCMCIA / microdrives / CF and MMC* cards do not have this problem as they generally comply with hard drive standards.. (*save the MMC version known as SD) and for those who want to make sure images are truly scrubbed, relying on the camera is a bit dangerous - an example, I had someone recently who accidentally formatted their card in camera then realised the card dump they did to their mac was actually not completed and they feared they'd lost all their images.

I recovered them all..

and most of the images from the previous shoot

and some from even before that!

each time the card had been formatted in camera.



but aside from that if a card fails in-camera and needs reformatting it'll often need to be done on a computer if the camera refuses to recognise the card or if the format fails repetitively..

and there problems will arise with Vista :(

unless the fix is applied :)

karl

[Don Roberts-2]

David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

On Fri, June 27, 2008 04:50, Trevor Cunningham wrote:

  

3. How many people are included in the photograph?
16
    

Is there a third person in the front seat that I'm missing, or somebody in
a building window, or what?

  

Hmm, I thought that I could count 17 with 3 in the front seat and 4 in the back seat.  Just a hint of a head on the right side of Kennedy?  May be wrong on that.
Don

[David Dyer-Bennet]

On Fri, June 27, 2008 11:40, Don Roberts wrote:

> David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>> On Fri, June 27, 2008 04:50, Trevor Cunningham wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 3. How many people are included in the photograph?
>>> 16
>>>
>>
>> Is there a third person in the front seat that I'm missing, or somebody
>> in
>> a building window, or what?
>>
>>
> Hmm, I thought that I could count 17 with 3 in the front seat and 4 in
> the back seat.  Just a hint of a head on the right side of Kennedy?  May
> be wrong on that.

I found another one (I'd missed before) in the doorway, I think.  In the
left group on the steps, in front is a man you can see most of (head, much
of body, all of one leg and part of another; the missing bits being behind
the stone wall).  That man's head is in front of the light shirt of
another person; and I believe I see a belt and pants below that shirt as
well.  Now, above that shirt, and at the right of this group on the steps,
is an arm.  And between that arm and the shirt, I seem to see a face. I
can't make the arm and face *both* attach properly to the shirt; so I
think it's part of a third person over there.

The other, larger, group, lower and to the right on the steps, seems to
have exactly 8 people in it; this may be the bit we all agree on :-).

The car has a driver, and two people in the back facing mostly away from
us, and Kennedy sitting up high on the seat back, for sure; 4 completely
clear obvious people. Through the windshield, I see a dark coat over a
light shirt, and a hand emerging from a white shirt cuff, which I take to
all be part of a person sitting in the front passenger seat (so that's 5).

And that gets me up to the original poster's number of 16.

Your hint of a head -- are you saying Kennedy's right, or camera right?  I
don't believe in another person camera right, I think we can see too
clearly where everybody is placed for there to be room for another person.

However, there might be one past Kennedy, camera left.  The near corner of
the windshield is over some black thing that does not seem to be on the
building, and does not make sense as a part of the car.  It could well be
a hat worn by a woman in the back seat.  And what I see through the
windshield, just camera-left of the near post, could well be the other
side of that hat, and a head under it, very badly distorted by the curved
glass.  If this is real, it would bring the total up to 17.
--
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Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/
Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/
Dragaera: http://dragaera.info

[ADavidhazy-2]

Hi everyone,

Well ... some things are relatively easy ... others take aGREAT deal of
sleuthing!!

Trevor Cunningham wrote:

> 1. Who is the "principal" person depicted in this photograph?
> Robert F. Kennedy

OK - easy

> 2. When (year ... month ... day) was the photograph made?
> my guess is 1965 ... October ... 23rd ... I believe it was a Saturday

I myself am not sure and am trying various ways to pin down the date of
the event. I thought the car might provide a good clue but it seems that
these special Continentals were used over several years. This one seems
very much like a 1965 model meaning that the photograph probably was
taken after that date ... but I could be wrong. Was RFK on a tour
seeking the nomination? Could be Fall 1965 or Spring of 66?

> 3. How many people are included in the photograph?
> 16

Well, there are 7 in the car and 10 on the steps.


> 4. Where exactly was the photograph made?
> "made": in someone's darkroom?
> taken: in front of the old eastman building on plymouth ave north?

Very good sleuthing ... how long did it take to get this close to the
actual location? BTW, it was Plymouth Avenue South not north but the
fact you chose Plymouth Avenue is impressive!

> 5. Who made the photograph?
> I'm going to guess that you made this photo, andy

OK ...easy!

I sent a note to the RFK Library to see if their refernce people might
give a hand. Then the local newspapers but that would involve me having
to get off my office chair!!

cheerio,
andy

[Marilyn Dalrymple]

That's a fascinating bit of history, Andy, and fun to read about.  Thank
you, and Congratulations Trevor.  Good job!

Marilyn

[Rich Mason-2]

The car is a 1964 or earlier model.  The Lincoln Continental with  
suicide doors got a grille change in the 1965 model year (which would  
have been available mid-1964).  Of course this doesn't mean RFK was  
riding in a brand new vehicle--I just found a 1965 convertible for  
sale with 66k original miles.  I'd hate to imagine how much they're  
asking for it.

Cheers,

Rich


On Jun 27, 2008, at 3:32 PM, ADavidhazy wrote:

>  I thought the car might provide a good clue but it seems that  
> these special Continentals were used over several years. This one  
> seems very much like a 1965 model meaning that the photograph  
> probably was taken after that date ... but I could be wrong.

[jsteven]

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