Scintilla editor - future maintaince

[Johannes Schmid-4]

Hi!

While going through our bug database I discovered that scintilla has 13
bugs including two crashers:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=anjuta&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&component=plugins%3A%20editor%3A%20scintilla

I guess nobody is working on fixing them but it gives a very bad
impression to the user. Is anyone willing to maintain the scintilla
editor in the future? Is there anything scintilla can do that sourceview
cannot (besides code-folding)?

And we should consider how we want to fix #521981 – Launching anjuta for
the first time: choose the editor plugin
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521981)

Either we build only one editor plugin by default or we install some
gconf key to automatically select one.

Regards,
Johannes


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[Sébastien Granjoux]

Hi Johannes,

Johannes Schmid a écrit :
> I guess nobody is working on fixing them but it gives a very bad
> impression to the user. Is anyone willing to maintain the scintilla
> editor in the future?

It's still my main editor in Anjuta and I like it. I'm not taking too
much care about bugs now, because I would like to finish the project
manager changes before the first GNOME freeze. But I will take a look at
those crasher and I'm willing to spend more time on Scintilla if nobody
else care about it.

> Is there anything scintilla can do that sourceview cannot (besides code-folding)?

I don't know scintilla is just working fine for me, so I keep it.


> And we should consider how we want to fix #521981 – Launching anjuta for
> the first time: choose the editor plugin
> (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521981)
> Either we build only one editor plugin by default or we install some
> gconf key to automatically select one.

I think there is more important issues in Anjuta currently but I'm agree
it should be more user friendly. Anyway, I don't think that removing
scintilla is the solution.

Arun is working on a vim editor, the problem will be still here even if
scintilla is removed.

Moreover, this dialog box is common to all plugins. So I would rather
use a more general solution. Like providing a more complete description
including details allowing the user to make his choice.

But installing a gconf key to select default plugin is ok for me too.

Regards,

Sébastien

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[Perriman]

Hi all,

        I think we must to decide how is the better editor. The user
doesn't know what is scintilla, GtkSourceView, only set an editor
(the best) by default and put the choice in the preferences dialog.

I think this is the better way... In gnome all application set the
better choices by default and the user can change it in the preferences
dialog.

It is only an opinion.

Regards,
        Perriman

El Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:42:08 +0200
Sébastien Granjoux <seb.sfo@...> escribió:

> Hi Johannes,
>
> Johannes Schmid a écrit :
> > I guess nobody is working on fixing them but it gives a very bad
> > impression to the user. Is anyone willing to maintain the scintilla
> > editor in the future?
>
> It's still my main editor in Anjuta and I like it. I'm not taking too
> much care about bugs now, because I would like to finish the project
> manager changes before the first GNOME freeze. But I will take a look
> at those crasher and I'm willing to spend more time on Scintilla if
> nobody else care about it.
>
> > Is there anything scintilla can do that sourceview cannot (besides
> > code-folding)?
>
> I don't know scintilla is just working fine for me, so I keep it.
>
>
> > And we should consider how we want to fix #521981 – Launching
> > anjuta for the first time: choose the editor plugin
> > (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521981)
> > Either we build only one editor plugin by default or we install some
> > gconf key to automatically select one.
>
> I think there is more important issues in Anjuta currently but I'm
> agree it should be more user friendly. Anyway, I don't think that
> removing scintilla is the solution.
>
> Arun is working on a vim editor, the problem will be still here even
> if scintilla is removed.
>
> Moreover, this dialog box is common to all plugins. So I would rather
> use a more general solution. Like providing a more complete
> description including details allowing the user to make his choice.
>
> But installing a gconf key to select default plugin is ok for me too.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sébastien
>
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[Naba Kumar-2]

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 19:42 +0200, Sébastien Granjoux wrote:

> But installing a gconf key to select default plugin is ok for me too.
>
I agree too. Defaulting the editor to one is good. I have been using
sourceview as primary editor for a while and it seems to work well now.
Perhaps we should set it as default now. Currently, configure.in default
to scintilla first, so that can also be changed sourceview. It is
important for scintilla to be around for testing editor interfaces.

Thanks.

Regards,
-Naba



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