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BruceMount
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Does anyone know of a way to access SOAP from Eiffel?  (The last
postings I see in this group about Eiffel SOAP are several years old.)

Thanks,

--Bruce


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Ian Joyner-2
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SOAP seems to be falling out of favour since each service must invent  
its own protocol. More in favour (I think more than just latest fad)  
is REST (Representational State Transfer), which is one simple  
protocol (eg http) over which services can discover each other. There  
are of course situations in which SOAP or REST are best used, but it  
seems REST is more widely and simply applicable, and is the guiding  
architecture of the WEB:

http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid26_gci1317288,00.html?track=NL-130&ad=646172&asrc=EM_NLN_3845305&uid=6237184

Apologies in advance for not answering your specific question, and it  
may be something you already know about, or it might be something out  
of left field. Hope it helps anyway.

Ian

On 17/06/2008, at 12:18 PM, brucemount wrote:

> Does anyone know of a way to access SOAP from Eiffel? (The last
> postings I see in this group about Eiffel SOAP are several years old.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Bruce
>

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Iliyan Gochev
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Hello,

Check out Project Goanna for SOAP and Eiffel
http://goanna.origo.ethz.ch/

Regards,

Iliyan

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:18 AM, brucemount <brucemount@...> wrote:

>   Does anyone know of a way to access SOAP from Eiffel? (The last
> postings I see in this group about Eiffel SOAP are several years old.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Bruce
>
>  
>


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BruceMount
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Ian:

> SOAP seems to be falling out of favour....

Thanks for your reply.  I agree that SOAP is not ideal, but I am
exploring if I can interface Eiffel with a stock web service:

http://preview.xignite.com/Support/FAQ.aspx?faqtype=Development&faqcat=Tips

They support either SOAP or HTTP/XML, but recommend SOAP.  I might
just use HTTP/XML if there isn't an easy way to do it with Eiffel.  I
keep itching to find a commercial project where I can pay the generous
Eiffel people that have provided me with free compilers for years.

Iliyan, I will look at Project Goanna, thank you.

--Bruce


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Neal Lester
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Hi Bruce,

I don't think Goanna SOAP has seen much use since it was
written.  You can ask on the Goanna forum:

http://goanna.origo.ethz.ch/forum

Most of the original Goanna was pretty solid, but at a minimum you
would probably need to correct for the drift in compilers and
libraries over the last several years.

OTOH, Eposix ( http://www.berenddeboer.net/eposix/ ) and GOBO (
http://www.gobosoft.com/ ) have everything you need to do http/xml
and I have production applications which use the necessary classes
daily so I know they work.

Neal

At 03:25 AM 6/17/2008, you wrote:

>Ian:
>
> > SOAP seems to be falling out of favour....
>
>Thanks for your reply.  I agree that SOAP is not ideal, but I am
>exploring if I can interface Eiffel with a stock web service:
>
>http://preview.xignite.com/Support/FAQ.aspx?faqtype=Development&faqcat=Tips
>
>They support either SOAP or HTTP/XML, but recommend SOAP.  I might
>just use HTTP/XML if there isn't an easy way to do it with Eiffel.  I
>keep itching to find a commercial project where I can pay the generous
>Eiffel people that have provided me with free compilers for years.
>
>Iliyan, I will look at Project Goanna, thank you.
>
>--Bruce
>
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Ian Joyner-2
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Ah yes, always having to support legacy!

Another interesting technology for the WEB, which isn't exactly new is  
the SproutCore JavaScript framework bringing desktop-like apps to web  
browsers with MVC.

http://www.sproutcore.com/
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/06/16/apples-open-secret-sproutcore-is-cocoa-for-the-web/

I had a quick look last year, but it was still a work in progress. So  
far I have downloaded it, but since I have not been too well for the  
last few weeks have not been able to sit at the computer for much more  
than 10 minutes at a time.

Still I'm passing on this information as interesting stuff, that it  
might be interesting to interface Eiffel to. And if it helps  
Eiffelists develop better applications then that is good.

Ian

On 17/06/2008, at 11:26 PM, Neal Lester wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> I don't think Goanna SOAP has seen much use since it was
> written. You can ask on the Goanna forum:
>
> http://goanna.origo.ethz.ch/forum
>
> Most of the original Goanna was pretty solid, but at a minimum you
> would probably need to correct for the drift in compilers and
> libraries over the last several years.
>
> OTOH, Eposix ( http://www.berenddeboer.net/eposix/ ) and GOBO (
> http://www.gobosoft.com/ ) have everything you need to do http/xml
> and I have production applications which use the necessary classes
> daily so I know they work.
>
> Neal
>
> At 03:25 AM 6/17/2008, you wrote:
> >Ian:
> >
> > > SOAP seems to be falling out of favour....
> >
> >Thanks for your reply. I agree that SOAP is not ideal, but I am
> >exploring if I can interface Eiffel with a stock web service:
> >
> >http://preview.xignite.com/Support/FAQ.aspx?faqtype=Development&faqcat=Tips
> >
> >They support either SOAP or HTTP/XML, but recommend SOAP. I might
> >just use HTTP/XML if there isn't an easy way to do it with Eiffel. I
> >keep itching to find a commercial project where I can pay the  
> generous
> >Eiffel people that have provided me with free compilers for years.
> >
> >Iliyan, I will look at Project Goanna, thank you.
> >
> >--Bruce

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