Re: watch out... car manufacturers and petroleum companies

> From: Richard Acuti <dmc650@...>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] watch out... car manufacturers and petroleum companies
> To: ev@...
> Received: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:35 AM
> If you mean that big oil and big auto will try to patent
> technologies to prevent someone from mass producing
> EV's in a factory, I suppose it's possilbe but as
> far as home conversions, I'm not really afraid of that.
>
>
> No one can stop you from taking an electric pump motor and
> mounting it to your car. No one can stop you from
> dismantling a wrecked hybrid and putting the batteries in a
> conversion built by you, for your personal use. No one can
> stop you from installing golf-cart batteries in your
> conversion and no one can stop you from installing a golf
> cart or forklift motor controller in your conversion, nor
> can anyone stop you from designing and building your own
> controller. Even if laws are written to prevent such
> behavior, they would be un-enforceable. Law enforcement has
> bigger problems than to pull over every driver asking to
> peek under their hood checking for EV components. If
> someone started violating patents by cranking out
> conversions in a shop and selling them to the public, law
> enforcement might do something about that.
>
> The nice thing about the "grass roots" level that
> we are operating at, is that we can't be stopped.
> We'll keep doing it, we'll keep being interviewed
> by the media. The mainstream public will continue to get
> angrier, and angrier that a product that they want
> isn't available and finally a company will find a way
> to build it without violating a patent that another company
> is squatting on. It's kind of like the operating system,
> Linux. It's open source. It's free. People can
> download it, tweak the hell out of it, and then give it
> away and no company can stop it.
>
> So big companies halt the mass production of EV's
> because they are squatting on key patents. So what? What do
> you think they'll do when only a tiny, wealthy, handful
> can afford their ICE powered products? Go bankrupt or build
> the car that we can all afford to operate.
>
> I bought my last brand-new car from an automotive
> manufacturer in '06 and I'll never buy another one
> until they build the one I want. I'll keep converting
> ICE cars, and buying used ICE powered cars for longer
> distance driving until they do. Imagine if most people did
> that?
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tom Watson
> Subject: [EVDL] watch out... car manufacturers and
> petroleum companies
> are patenting our future.
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
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> After seeing some of the videos that were listed alongside
> the utube electric pinto drag race video;
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMGomFODHk0
>
> I am reminded of how the NIMH batteries were pantented out
> of production for pure electric cars... How they don't
> produce NIMH batteries of a size that will allow use in
> electric cars! Next will be wheel motors and and advanced
> controllers. They seem to usually put the projected date of
> availablity to be after the hydrogen fuel cell production
> estimates... or at least several years from now... and they
> put the price up in competition with fuel cell... $1million
> per vehicle or some such nonsence?
>
> mini...not in production! not moving yet, hybred with built
> in ice motor
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdRS7eVVZbU&feature=related
>
> this volvo is not in production and they don't know how
> long it will take to get this into production. hybred with
> built in ice motor;
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T40ZqLZiZyg&feature=related
>
> Is this being produced yet? lithium ion batteries for
> electrics? yeah right!;
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqywKcJ0J2M&feature=related
>
> Volt? yeah right from gm too! look how slow this goes!!!
> remind you of the EV-1 marketing videos???
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qU1EcEZmA&feature=related
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgTcdfkihE4
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvXBSe6gWM0
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM4F1qtAEyI&feature=related
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYri9hPgVzQ&feature=related
>
> opel? owned by GM? another slow video of a fake car?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMv-DOznBe8&feature=related
>
> camaro ice marketing vid... notice the difference?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jimIlTsOs&feature=related
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1hZhYfkrAI&NR=1
>
> warning explicit content! assume the position!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-rBo5XbrRo
>
> gas prices skyrocketing
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RlJ1v4juh8&feature=related
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8oCXBaRsn8&feature=related
>
> Try and find a EV-1 being crushed on utube! I thought once
> it was on utube it was there for good?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEIJrdoDmyw
>
> you can see a smart car being crushed though
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im0Ce-tjuBo&feature=related
>
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>
> Rich A.
> Maryland
> http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/371.html
> http://patriotfuel.blogspot.com/
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