Re: not forgotten

[Todd Viegut]

Hi George,

Sounds excellent.  How large will the archive be?  If it exceeds 5MB it might possibly be a bit too large for my email server.  (you can always try anyway to see if it goes through).  Also...if it's compressed it'll obviously help.

Now...so you know...Math (another developer) has done a fair bit of work in cutting out dependencies that were in the project for the code generation functionality.  This code was originally dependent on NetBeans source that had been pulled into the project by the original developer.  This has now been effectively refactored out (the NetBeans specific code that is ) and is now included as a standalone jar file.  This type of thing we'll eventually want to apply to your code.

Also...would you and your team like to have your own private branch (against 2.1 code)?   Math is now creating separate branches for developers as needed (or teams if applicable).  In this way it would make future changes for you easily merged back into trunk as we move forward.  It would allow the assurance that code changes you make are easily managed within core Abeille as well.  Please provide your thoughts on this if you would.

Finally, I am working with Sun Microsystem currently to look into migrating from CVS to SVN.  I'm not sure if this change in SCM systems would be a benefit to you or if it would be a negative.  Let me know.  I know from our end it would be beneficial. 

I will be flexible in working with you and the team to make things easier on your end. 

Kind Regards,

~Todd



-----Original Message-----
From: George Talev <geo@...>
To: viegs@...
Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:37 am
Subject: Re: not forgotten

    Dear Todd,
    thanks for contacting me.

    First, wish you good luck with your attempts to deliver 3.0 version of Abeille :) This sounds great :) I am curious what is there in the "changes list", but that is not so important right now, so don't waste your time explaining me :-)

    Thanks for the info regarding your location; I needed it to have a basic idea about the time difference and the usual delay that can be expected in the communication between us. Minneapolis is 8 hours behind Sofia, and Montreal - 7 (we are in DST here also).

    Now about the sources:
    what about this: I can send you an archive with the complete source code including all our changes inside. Having it, you can use your favorite way to diff it against the sources of the stable 2.0 release.
    I just need to ask tomorrow if the other guys here have something else to commit.

    Your suggestions are welcome!
   
    Best regards and looking forward your reply :)

    George
   
viegs@... wrote:

George,

Sorry...but I do not believe I ever responded back to your question as to where I'm located. 

I'm in Minneapolis, MN (USA).  Another key developer on the project is located in Montreal Canada.  He will be assisting me in the code review and integration efforts  :)f

~Todd





-----Original Message-----
From: George Talev geo@...
To: viegs@...
Sent: Mon, 12 May 2008 2:55 pm
Subject: not forgotten

    Dear Todd,

    Our wish to collaborate with your team regarding the Abeille project didn't disappear; we are just slightly busy with the usual very-urgent-tasks-right-after-the-vacation ... :(

    Will keep in touch, and you can contact me if needed.

    Best regards,
    George

    P.S. Just wondered, where are you located?

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[Todd Viegut]

Math,

Good morning!  :)   Below is the email I received from George this morning.  (read at your leisure)

In the mean time I think it most prudent to create a branch for George and his team as well.  Their working against that branch will ease the merge efforts moving forward.

I most definitely want to move to SVN.  That is high on my list.  As I've thought about it a bit more I'm thinking to tackle that issue first.  Stay with java.net as our hosting and see out it goes for a while (and try to explore and push more exposure).  If that isn't as successful as we'd like we can make the bigger leap of switching out open source hosting.

Thoughts are my thoughts for now.  Thanks again for handling the branching....I DID update my dev environment last night to now develope against the branch you created for me!

~Todd



-----Original Message-----
From: George Talev <geo@...>
To: viegs@...
Sent: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 7:13 am
Subject: abeille sources

    Hi Todd!

   
viegs@... wrote:

Hi George,

Sounds excellent.  How large will the archive be?  If it exceeds 5MB it might possibly be a bit too large for my email server.  (you can always try anyway to see if it goes through).  Also...if it's compressed it'll obviously help.

    Find attached a ~2 MB zip archive with the modified sources of Abeille.

Now...so you know...Math (another developer) has done a fair bit of work in cutting out dependencies that were in the project for the code generation functionality.  This code was originally dependent on NetBeans source that had been pulled into the project by the original developer.  This has now been effectively refactored out (the NetBeans specific code that is ) and is now included as a standalone jar file.  This type of thing we'll eventually want to apply to your code.

    yeah, looks like our changes also should pass through this refactoring... otherwise they cannot be imported into the HEAD.

Also...would you and your team like to have your own private branch (against 2.1 code)?   Math is now creating separate branches for developers as needed (or teams if applicable).  In this way it would make future changes for you easily merged back into trunk as we move forward.  It would allow the assurance that code changes you make are easily managed within core Abeille as well.  Please provide your thoughts on this if you would.

    No problem for us to work in our own branch. After all, the initial idea was to have the possibility to push our changes into the project and the pull your changes so we stay updated... So that is the goal anyway.

Finally, I am working with Sun Microsystem currently to look into migrating from CVS to SVN.  I'm not sure if this change in SCM systems would be a benefit to you or if it would be a negative.  Let me know.  I know from our end it would be beneficial. 

    No difference for us, if it is CVS or SVN, so do it the way it is convenient for you.
    AFAIR, SVN 1.5 will support merge tracking ( http://subversion.tigris.org/merge-tracking/ ), which should be a convenience for teams who work on separate branches and who merge trunk with branch from time to time. So go for it :)
    And good luck with Sun Microsystems, you will need it :):):):):):):):)

I will be flexible in working with you and the team to make things easier on your end.

    Thanks. Me too :)

    It is possible that we make further changes in the sources in the very near future, but I do not expect some massive changes, but probably bugfixes...

Kind Regards,

~Todd

    Greetings,
    George

-----Original Message-----
From: George Talev geo@...
To: viegs@...
Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:37 am
Subject: Re: not forgotten

    Dear Todd,
    thanks for contacting me.

    First, wish you good luck with your attempts to deliver 3.0 version of Abeille :) This sounds great :) I am curious what is there in the "changes list", but that is not so important right now, so don't waste your time explaining me :-)

    Thanks for the info regarding your location; I needed it to have a basic idea about the time difference and the usual delay that can be expected in the communication between us. Minneapolis is 8 hours behind Sofia, and Montreal - 7 (we are in DST here also).

    Now about the sources:
    what about this: I can send you an archive with the complete source code including all our changes inside. Having it, you can use your favorite way to diff it against the sources of the stable 2.0 release.
    I just need to ask tomorrow if the other guys here have something else to commit.

    Your suggestions are welcome!
   
    Best regards and looking forward your reply :)

    George
   
viegs@... wrote:

George,

Sorry...but I do not believe I ever responded back to your question as to where I'm located. 

I'm in Minneapolis, MN (USA).  Another key developer on the project is located in Montreal Canada.  He will be assisting me in the code review and integration efforts  :)f

~Todd





-----Original Message-----
From: George Talev geo@...
To: viegs@...
Sent: Mon, 12 May 2008 2:55 pm
Subject: not forgotten

    Dear Todd,

    Our wish to collaborate with your team regarding the Abeille project didn't disappear; we are just slightly busy with the usual very-urgent-tasks-right-after-the-vacation ... :(

    Will keep in touch, and you can contact me if needed.

    Best regards,
    George

    P.S. Just wondered, where are you located?

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