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by Janko Mivsek
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Hi Rob,
Rob Rothwell wrote:
> It's hard to fight the lure of drag-and-drop with a Smalltalk learning
> curve!
>
> That's why I still feel like a framework that could generate
> maintainable code, at least to get people started, would be useful. The
> would see the relationship between placing the button and the generated
> code easily because there would be so little code to generate!
Let we have this in mind and let we start looking around is such a tool
already exist to just adopt it. Dreamweaver is such, but when I looked
it last time, I didn't find a way to integrate Aida on it.
Has anyone any other idea how to ad visual building on top of Aida but
without loosing all programming comfort Aida offers?
Janko
>
> The code generated by other tools seems very hard to follow, or is not
> given to you at all (VB, for example).
>
> I've mentioned your success before, but will pass this along in your own
> voice!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...
> <mailto:janko.mivsek@...>> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> As you already mention it is a long-term mantability and
> extendability of Smalltalk systems what should count, not short-term
> flashy, cool painting of your apps with Visual Studio, which soon
> start to became spaghetti code and you need to start rewriting them
> again. That's what M$ like a lot of course ...
>
> On the contrary Smalltalk (and Aida) apps are almost eternal, they
> can stand years and years of continuous change, yet stay
> maintainable. Let me just point to 10 years anniversary of longest
> living Aida app: a Gas Billing System for out National Gas Company,
> billing all the gas in Slovenia:
> http://www.aidaweb.si/news/anniversaries-records.html
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>
>
--
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si
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Rob Rothwell wrote:
> It's hard to fight the lure of drag-and-drop with a Smalltalk learning
> curve!
>
> That's why I still feel like a framework that could generate
> maintainable code, at least to get people started, would be useful. The
> would see the relationship between placing the button and the generated
> code easily because there would be so little code to generate!
Let we have this in mind and let we start looking around is such a tool
already exist to just adopt it. Dreamweaver is such, but when I looked
it last time, I didn't find a way to integrate Aida on it.
Has anyone any other idea how to ad visual building on top of Aida but
without loosing all programming comfort Aida offers?
Janko
>
> The code generated by other tools seems very hard to follow, or is not
> given to you at all (VB, for example).
>
> I've mentioned your success before, but will pass this along in your own
> voice!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...
> <mailto:janko.mivsek@...>> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> As you already mention it is a long-term mantability and
> extendability of Smalltalk systems what should count, not short-term
> flashy, cool painting of your apps with Visual Studio, which soon
> start to became spaghetti code and you need to start rewriting them
> again. That's what M$ like a lot of course ...
>
> On the contrary Smalltalk (and Aida) apps are almost eternal, they
> can stand years and years of continuous change, yet stay
> maintainable. Let me just point to 10 years anniversary of longest
> living Aida app: a Gas Billing System for out National Gas Company,
> billing all the gas in Slovenia:
> http://www.aidaweb.si/news/anniversaries-records.html
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>
>
--
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si
_______________________________________________
Aida mailing list
Aida@...
http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida
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