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Re: Top webappsec testing vendors?

by WebAppSec Mailbox :: Rate this Message:

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Clint:

Seems you're employed by the vendor you just recommended.

Not the most up-and-up way to respond to the thread.

http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=2967034

I have a lot of respect for the folks at Neohapsis and IOActive.

Not employed by either. ;p



-- shawn

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Re: Top webappsec testing vendors?

by Jamie Riden :: Rate this Message:

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On 08/04/2008, WebAppSec Mailbox <webappsec@...> wrote:
> Clint:
>
>  Seems you're employed by the vendor you just recommended.
>
>  Not the most up-and-up way to respond to the thread.
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmi&id=2967034

That link doesn't work for me - but this one does:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/cgarrison
"Current
* Adjunct Faculty at University of Phoenix
* Information Security Consultant at Trustwave"

I really would rather people disclosed if they worked, or had
previously worked for particular vendors when talking about them. (For
a more selfish reason to disclose, consider that this exchange is now
archived on the Internet for ever.)

--
Jamie Riden / jamesr@... / jamie@...
UK Honeynet Project: http://www.ukhoneynet.org/

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Administrivia: Webappsec Vendor Directory

by Andrew van der Stock :: Rate this Message:

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Hi there,

** Full disclosure: I work for Aspect Security. This is why I have
refrained publicly posting as it is a conflict of interest. I am
walking a very fine line here. With this post, I aim to represent you,
the webappsec reader in this matter, not my employer nor myself. **

The thread on web app sec companies highlights several issues: it can
be tricky to find them - so a directory is needed, but some folks have
mixed experiences with some companies whilst others love their
favorite vendor, and some folks will post on behalf of their employer
without disclosing that. The responses so far show all of these
attributes. This list is not an advertising service, so I will make it
as vendor neutral as possible.

I will be rejecting any further posts to this thread beyond the ones I
had in my queue. The only exception to the approval to that thread is
for company representatives who feel they need a right of reply to a
post that takes a shot at them.

Instead, to make it fair to all webappsec vendors whilst helping out our
readers, I will:

* Collect all the responses with company names and publish them here
in one single list Friday next week. If you're in this business,
please mail me privately (see my address in the headers) and I will
add your details to the list. You have until Thursday 17th of April to
do this.

* Ask Security Focus if we can make that into a FAQ entry on our
mailing list page. Most likely that will not happen as a) the list is
supported by one of the companies mentioned, and Security Focus itself
is owned by Symantec, who through their @stake arm do this sort of work.

* Ask OWASP and WASC to re-publish the same list as a business
directory on their respective web sites, but most likely that will not
happen as OWASP is about vendor neutrality, and WASC is made up of
many of the vendors mentioned so far.

* If neither FAQ entry comes to pass, I'll make a post on my blog. But
that's an absolute last resort as my blog is in the outer arm of the
blogosphere, and the information will become stale.

thanks,
Andrew, your friendly moderator

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by Bill Stout-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello All,
Thank you for your responses.  This is the list I have compiled so far, my apologies if I have missed a response.
Aspect Security  http://www.aspectsecurity.com/ 
ApplicCure  http://www.applicure.com/ 
Compass Security (Swiss)  http://www.csnc.ch/en/ 
Cybertrust (Verizon) http://www.cybertrust.com/ 
Deloitte & Touche http://www.deloitte.com 
Depth Security  http://www.depthsecurity.com/ 
Ernst & Young  http://www.ey.com/ 
Fortrex Technologies  http:/www.fortrex.com
Foundstone  http://www.foundstone.com/us/index.asp 
GNU Citizen  http://gnucitizen.com/ 
Gotham Digital Science  http://www.gdssecurity.com/ 
IOActive http://www.ioactive.com/ 
ISEC Auditors (Spain)  http://www.isecauditors.com/eng/index.html 
Korelogic http://www.korelogic.com/ 
Matasano  http://www.matasano.com/log/mtso/ 
Neohapsis http://www.neohapsis.com/ 
NGS Software  http://www.ngssoftware.com/ 
NTObjectives  http://www.ntobjectives.com/ 
SecuRisk Solutions  http://www.securisksolutions.com/ 
Spidynamics (HP) https://h10078.www1.hp.com/cda/hpms/display/main/hpms_content.jsp?zn=bto&cp=1-11-201_4000_100__ 
Whitehat Security  http://www.whitehatsec.com/home/index.html 
Zion Security (Belgium)  http://www.zionsecurity.com/ 
I haven't rank them and I believe it would be difficult to do so.  Aspect has been recommended a few times, NGS Software is owned by David Litchfield who I've known since the mid-90's.  Each vendor probably employs a well-respected webapp pentester, and I'm sure each engagement will have a different experience.
I believe a pentester is an important addition to a security toolkit.
Bill Stout

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Re: Administrivia: Webappsec Vendor Directory

by bugtraq-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Full disclosure I don't work for a security vendor anymore, nor for a security services
company and my comments are mine alone.

> * Ask OWASP and WASC to re-publish the same list as a business
> directory on their respective web sites, but most likely that will not
> happen as OWASP is about vendor neutrality, and WASC is made up of
> many of the vendors mentioned so far.

I won't speak on OWASP's stance as I'm not as informed as you are about theirs, however regarding    
your wasc comments I'm going to have to respond to *clarify* your comments about the group since
I've been asked in response to your email.

WASC is very neutral and is made up of vendors, enterprise people, government, developers, security
managers, QA, pen testers and other associated security persons. WASC is run by people of all these
backgrounds and no one company/person has more of a right to change group direction or agenda. This was
an issue many of us had which is why this was specified in our charter (on our website) upon WASC's
creation years ago.

WASC knows that many vendors have employee's who are the leading experts in their field and wants to
work with all *qualified* parties regardless of who they work for while ensuring material published  
is neutral and agendaless. Some wasc material may link to vendor materials as we don't discriminate  
against valid material/resources simply because of the person or group that authored it.


Regards,
- Robert
http://www.webappsec.org/
http://www.webappsec.org/aboutus.shtml



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