Re: Sentra Saga, Last Chapter or Ampabout East

[Richard Acuti]

Bob,

You have balls of steel man. It's one thing to drive an EV long distances, but you did it completely without any preplanned waypoints for recharging and you actually found a place every time! Not only that, but you made the drive in a 90 volt car. That's barely above old Comuta-Van power. Bravo!

More to the point though, do you realize what you just proved? Without even bothering to pre-arrange places to charge, you found them. The distribution network for electric "fuel" is already in place. You even used 2 kinds; 220 and 110 volts. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about in my response to Lee.  Lee could site this as an example in his discussion with the state legislature. You are kind of a stinker for "war charging" without permission on that first stop though, lol.

When I see you at P of DC, I'm going to shake your hand.
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:57:13 -0400
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Hi EVerybody;..........(snip)

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[Ben-149]

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Richard Acuti <dmc650@...> wrote:
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> When I see you at P of DC, I'm going to shake your hand.


Ditto. Way to go Bob.

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[Lee Hart]

Richard Acuti wrote:

> Bob,
>
> You have balls of steel man. It's one thing to drive an EV long
> distances, but you did it completely without any preplanned waypoints
> for recharging and you actually found a place every time! Not only
> that, but you made the drive in a 90 volt car. That's barely above
> old Comuta-Van power. Bravo!
>
> More to the point though, do you realize what you just proved?
> Without even bothering to pre-arrange places to charge, you found
> them. The distribution network for electric "fuel" is already in
> place. You even used 2 kinds; 220 and 110 volts. This is exactly the
> kind of thing I'm talking about in my response to Lee.  Lee could
> site this as an example in his discussion with the state legislature.
> You are kind of a stinker for "war charging" without permission on
> that first stop though, lol.
>
> When I see you at P of DC, I'm going to shake your hand.

Anyone who has driven an EV for years will discover that there are more
AC outlets than gas stations. It simply is not a problem to find places
to charge. It can be a little inconvenient and slow; but it can always
be done. Just ask... almost no one says "no".

--
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget the perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in    --    Leonard Cohen
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Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net

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[Bob Rice-2]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Hart" <leeahart@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Sentra Saga, Last Chapter or Ampabout East


> Richard Acuti wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> You have balls of steel man. It's one thing to drive an EV long
>> distances, but you did it completely without any preplanned waypoints
>> for recharging and you actually found a place every time! Not only
>> that, but you made the drive in a 90 volt car. That's barely above
>> old Comuta-Van power. Bravo!

>> Hi Rich;

  Hell? Why not? TIME was the issue here? I USED to clip off that distance
in an AEM-7 Electric loke EVery day? THEY, Amtrak, paid the electric bill
for me, in 2 hours, with a lota stops, to pick up hostages, I mean
PASSENGERS! Getting up to 125 mph on the streightaways!And they EVen PAID me
for that EV grin! Hell, the car would GO fine, just HOW long was the
question? I'm not as cute as I was 40 years ago, but they , local folks,
still can be charmed by my innocent mannor? "Can I buy some
electricity?"Huh?" YES I 'm out of juice in my Electric Car" A variation of
a pickup line in a bar? This admission usually take good folks by surprise?
Folks are cool with it;"how LONG do ya need to charge?" is the question? You
do Show and Tell, for awile, then go sit in the car, play yur tunes, and
read awile. You DEFINATELY bring a book!!!One about 2 inches thick: "Passage
between the Seas" about building the Pana-mania Canel. Remember the AMERICAN
Canel, built and PAID for by USA, nearly a century ago!Talk about a BIG
dig!WE gave it away! Feh! Helps pass the time away as your voltmeter INCHES
toward 110 volts. I have scene faster glaciers! Had I been able to pull
100-200 amps instead of 30 it woulda taken less time!Yeah I shoulda got a
PFC -50, I hear ya Rich<g>?! Well HAD I my "Little Blue Box" setup I MIGHT
have been able to pull 70 amps or blew out Tom's outlets?

>> More to the point though, do you realize what you just proved?
>> Without even bothering to pre-arrange places to charge, you found
>> them. The distribution network for electric "fuel" is already in
>> place. You even used 2 kinds; 220 and 110 volts. This is exactly the
>> kind of thing I'm talking about in my response to Lee.  Lee could
>> site this as an example in his discussion with the state legislature.
>> You are kind of a stinker for "war charging" without permission on
>> that first stop though, lol.

        BINGO ! Rich, right on! The infrastructure is here now, well sorta?
I KNEW I wasn't gunna be going anywhere that there WASN'T electricity.People
are a little chary at just GIVING it away, nowadaze. Thank You, Corrupticut
for letting THIS happen! But at 21 cents a KWH, ya better be polite or cute
when you ask>?Or Hell? Put up meters so we wouldn't have to beg, just swipe
yur card!?A guilt free trip?

>> When I see you at P of DC, I'm going to shake your hand.

    I'd be delighted! Want to meet ya, anyhow!

> Anyone who has driven an EV for years will discover that there are more
> AC outlets than gas stations. It simply is not a problem to find places
> to charge. It can be a little inconvenient and slow; but it can always
> be done. Just ask... almost no one says "no".

      Exactly! IF yopu had infinate patience you COULD EV tour about the
country. Staying at a cheepo motel or OTHER EVer's place you could start the
daty with a FULL charge?Campground, whatEVer. Remember the Bally hoo at
Joliet about setting upo simple plugitin's aloing the old RT 66 for EV
touring? Stoppoing of at quirky musuums and tacky tourist traps along the
way, Shits and giggles dept? Hey! Jerry Ascher? What happened on THAT trip?

    We would go on EV caravans, touring WITHOUT gas on relatively empty
roads, biz places would be GLAD to see u$.The American Open Road, again?
EVen EV campers, which wouldn't haver that great range. After all;"Getting
halfway There is Fun?"It's the journey, not the destination, somebody, with
only a 120 volt charger once said?

   Seeya

   Bob

      It took about 12 hours, maybe less from Detoilet to Chicago 40 years
ago in Bob Aronson's Mars 2 Converted Renault About 300 miles, stopping off
for 45 minute charges EVery 40-60 miles> I coulda done that trip in the
Sentra, or Jetta with one of Bob's chargers, aboard! A tip of the hat to
visionery Bob Aronson's Electric Fuel Propulsion, back in the late 60's
early 70's. Bob, take a bow! You were SO far ahead of yur time.  I gotta
write a book?! Gas was 23 sense a gal back then, who cared? Sigh.

> --
> Ring the bells that still can ring
> Forget the perfect offering
> There is a crack in everything
> That's how the light gets in    --    Leonard Cohen
> --
> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>
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[Evan Tuer]

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Bob Rice <bobrice@...> wrote:

>    We would go on EV caravans, touring WITHOUT gas on relatively empty
> roads, biz places would be GLAD to see u$.The American Open Road, again?
> EVen EV campers, which wouldn't haver that great range. After all;"Getting
> halfway There is Fun?"It's the journey, not the destination, somebody, with
> only a 120 volt charger once said?

I'm putting off visiting America until you do this!
Oh, and until I can get there by airship :)

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[Roland Wiench]

Hey Bob,

Tell everybody about the time, that EFP went across the country during the
Big Electric Car Race.  Of course you can bring up the this race by typing
in "Electric Car Race.

Roland


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rice" <bobrice@...>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Sentra Saga, Last Chapter or Ampabout East

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee Hart" <leeahart@...>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Sentra Saga, Last Chapter or Ampabout East
>
>
> > Richard Acuti wrote:
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> You have balls of steel man. It's one thing to drive an EV long
> >> distances, but you did it completely without any preplanned waypoints
> >> for recharging and you actually found a place every time! Not only
> >> that, but you made the drive in a 90 volt car. That's barely above
> >> old Comuta-Van power. Bravo!
>
> >> Hi Rich;
>
>   Hell? Why not? TIME was the issue here? I USED to clip off that distance
> in an AEM-7 Electric loke EVery day? THEY, Amtrak, paid the electric bill
> for me, in 2 hours, with a lota stops, to pick up hostages, I mean
> PASSENGERS! Getting up to 125 mph on the streightaways!And they EVen PAID
> me
> for that EV grin! Hell, the car would GO fine, just HOW long was the
> question? I'm not as cute as I was 40 years ago, but they , local folks,
> still can be charmed by my innocent mannor? "Can I buy some
> electricity?"Huh?" YES I 'm out of juice in my Electric Car" A variation
> of
> a pickup line in a bar? This admission usually take good folks by
> surprise?
> Folks are cool with it;"how LONG do ya need to charge?" is the question?
> You
> do Show and Tell, for awile, then go sit in the car, play yur tunes, and
> read awile. You DEFINATELY bring a book!!!One about 2 inches thick:
> "Passage
> between the Seas" about building the Pana-mania Canel. Remember the
> AMERICAN
> Canel, built and PAID for by USA, nearly a century ago!Talk about a BIG
> dig!WE gave it away! Feh! Helps pass the time away as your voltmeter
> INCHES
> toward 110 volts. I have scene faster glaciers! Had I been able to pull
> 100-200 amps instead of 30 it woulda taken less time!Yeah I shoulda got a
> PFC -50, I hear ya Rich<g>?! Well HAD I my "Little Blue Box" setup I MIGHT
> have been able to pull 70 amps or blew out Tom's outlets?
>
> >> More to the point though, do you realize what you just proved?
> >> Without even bothering to pre-arrange places to charge, you found
> >> them. The distribution network for electric "fuel" is already in
> >> place. You even used 2 kinds; 220 and 110 volts. This is exactly the
> >> kind of thing I'm talking about in my response to Lee.  Lee could
> >> site this as an example in his discussion with the state legislature.
> >> You are kind of a stinker for "war charging" without permission on
> >> that first stop though, lol.
>
>         BINGO ! Rich, right on! The infrastructure is here now, well
> sorta?
> I KNEW I wasn't gunna be going anywhere that there WASN'T
> electricity.People
> are a little chary at just GIVING it away, nowadaze. Thank You,
> Corrupticut
> for letting THIS happen! But at 21 cents a KWH, ya better be polite or
> cute
> when you ask>?Or Hell? Put up meters so we wouldn't have to beg, just
> swipe
> yur card!?A guilt free trip?
>
> >> When I see you at P of DC, I'm going to shake your hand.
>
>     I'd be delighted! Want to meet ya, anyhow!
>
> > Anyone who has driven an EV for years will discover that there are more
> > AC outlets than gas stations. It simply is not a problem to find places
> > to charge. It can be a little inconvenient and slow; but it can always
> > be done. Just ask... almost no one says "no".
>
>       Exactly! IF yopu had infinate patience you COULD EV tour about the
> country. Staying at a cheepo motel or OTHER EVer's place you could start
> the
> daty with a FULL charge?Campground, whatEVer. Remember the Bally hoo at
> Joliet about setting upo simple plugitin's aloing the old RT 66 for EV
> touring? Stoppoing of at quirky musuums and tacky tourist traps along the
> way, Shits and giggles dept? Hey! Jerry Ascher? What happened on THAT
> trip?
>
>     We would go on EV caravans, touring WITHOUT gas on relatively empty
> roads, biz places would be GLAD to see u$.The American Open Road, again?
> EVen EV campers, which wouldn't haver that great range. After all;"Getting
> halfway There is Fun?"It's the journey, not the destination, somebody,
> with
> only a 120 volt charger once said?
>
>    Seeya
>
>    Bob
>
>       It took about 12 hours, maybe less from Detoilet to Chicago 40 years
> ago in Bob Aronson's Mars 2 Converted Renault About 300 miles, stopping
> off
> for 45 minute charges EVery 40-60 miles> I coulda done that trip in the
> Sentra, or Jetta with one of Bob's chargers, aboard! A tip of the hat to
> visionery Bob Aronson's Electric Fuel Propulsion, back in the late 60's
> early 70's. Bob, take a bow! You were SO far ahead of yur time.  I gotta
> write a book?! Gas was 23 sense a gal back then, who cared? Sigh.
> > --
> > Ring the bells that still can ring
> > Forget the perfect offering
> > There is a crack in everything
> > That's how the light gets in    --    Leonard Cohen
> > --
> > Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
> >
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[Bob Rice-2]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Evan Tuer" <evan.tuer@...>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Sentra Saga, Last Chapter or Ampabout East

> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Bob Rice <bobrice@...> wrote:
>
>>    We would go on EV caravans, touring WITHOUT gas on relatively empty
>> roads, biz places would be GLAD to see u$.The American Open Road, again?
>> EVen EV campers, which wouldn't haver that great range. After
>> all;"Getting
>> halfway There is Fun?"It's the journey, not the destination, somebody,
>> with
>> only a 120 volt charger once said?
>
> I'm putting off visiting America until you do this!
> Oh, and until I can get there by airship :)
>

    Ah, Gee! Evan, would like to have ya come see us sooner<g>?! Maybe ya
could settle for a trip on the Restored Liner "United States"? I'm on
another List Thing of dreamers that would LOVE to see the "Big U" sailing
again?See new Docu "Lady in Waiting" she sits in Philadelphia, across the
Smellaware (Delaware)River from the restored battleship New Jersey. About as
much chance as the Airships folks have in getting regular service going?
Airships were a facinating footnote in aviation history. Enough money were
to be spent on Hindinburg 2, Hell! We have a Queen Merry 2, now<g>?While in
dreamland, a trip out to RT-66 Land on the 20th Century Limited, 16 hours
NY-Chicago, delightfully steam powered, faster than Amtrak's Late Sure
Limited, nowadaze.After all the Zepilin Co. had a perfect safety record 'til
Lakehurst, in '37? Hindinburg was Diseasel powered, so will be very pricy to
drive, I'm afraid? You could work on engines in flight!

    Sea Ya?

    Bob.........multi Lister here.




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