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Re: OSCresponderNode
by Josh Parmenter
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Maybe use the Grain UGens to make your grains, then send those through
the subsample delay? Set up a synth that will create one grain when it
gets a trigger, then send that through the subsample delay.
Instead of using SendTrig - route the trigger data out to an audio
bus, and have your grain synthdef listen on those audio busses for
when to start the grain. This removes the language altogether, and
should work (I think).
Make sure the grain synths are executed after the filter synth (so
they can catch the triggered values)
Hope that helps.
Josh
On May 7, 2008, at 8:01 AM, James Harkins wrote:
> OSCresponder does not have subsample time resolution -- actually, it
> CAN'T even under optimal conditions. It can respond only when the
> message is received in the client, and this involves a small but
> unknown network latency time. The latency can be expected to be within
> a certain range, but it isn't a fixed value.
>
> Using OSCresponder for absolute timing precision is, unfortunately,
> likely to be a disappointing experience.
>
> Routines/Tasks/Patterns allow better control over event timing for
> reasons described in the ServerTiming help file -- however even this
> seems not to be wholly sample accurate because of sample clock drift
> in the server itself. (I recall a discussion on the list about this a
> couple of months ago.)
>
> In terms of timing, Patterns and Routines aren't fundamentally
> different. The backend scheduling mechanism for both is the same.
>
> Don't have time at the moment to read over your examples and
> brainstorm... perhaps later.
> hjh
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Joe Mariglio
> <joe.mariglio@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to trigger subsample accurate grains using
>> OSCresponderNode, but
>> I'm running into a rate limitation that ends up sounding like ring
>> modulation, with the modulator frequency at a multiple of 44100/64,
>> which
>> also happens to be server's sample rate over blockSize.
>> Nevertheless, I've
>> determined it's not scsynth but rather OSCresponderNode itself
>> which limits
>> the response rate to this frequency.
>
>
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>
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the subsample delay? Set up a synth that will create one grain when it
gets a trigger, then send that through the subsample delay.
Instead of using SendTrig - route the trigger data out to an audio
bus, and have your grain synthdef listen on those audio busses for
when to start the grain. This removes the language altogether, and
should work (I think).
Make sure the grain synths are executed after the filter synth (so
they can catch the triggered values)
Hope that helps.
Josh
On May 7, 2008, at 8:01 AM, James Harkins wrote:
> OSCresponder does not have subsample time resolution -- actually, it
> CAN'T even under optimal conditions. It can respond only when the
> message is received in the client, and this involves a small but
> unknown network latency time. The latency can be expected to be within
> a certain range, but it isn't a fixed value.
>
> Using OSCresponder for absolute timing precision is, unfortunately,
> likely to be a disappointing experience.
>
> Routines/Tasks/Patterns allow better control over event timing for
> reasons described in the ServerTiming help file -- however even this
> seems not to be wholly sample accurate because of sample clock drift
> in the server itself. (I recall a discussion on the list about this a
> couple of months ago.)
>
> In terms of timing, Patterns and Routines aren't fundamentally
> different. The backend scheduling mechanism for both is the same.
>
> Don't have time at the moment to read over your examples and
> brainstorm... perhaps later.
> hjh
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Joe Mariglio
> <joe.mariglio@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to trigger subsample accurate grains using
>> OSCresponderNode, but
>> I'm running into a rate limitation that ends up sounding like ring
>> modulation, with the modulator frequency at a multiple of 44100/64,
>> which
>> also happens to be server's sample rate over blockSize.
>> Nevertheless, I've
>> determined it's not scsynth but rather OSCresponderNode itself
>> which limits
>> the response rate to this frequency.
>
>
> --
> James Harkins /// dewdrop world
> jamshark70@...
> http://www.dewdrop-world.net
>
> "Come said the Muse,
> Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted,
> Sing me the universal." -- Whitman
> _______________________________________________
> sc-users mailing list
> sc-users@...
> http://lists.create.ucsb.edu/mailman/listinfo/sc-users
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http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
“Every composer – at all times and in all cases – gives his own
interpretation of how modern society is structured: whether actively
or passively, consciously or unconsciously, he makes choices in this
regard. He may be conservative or he may subject himself to continual
renewal; or he may strive for a revolutionary, historical or social
palingenesis." - Luigi Nono
*/
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