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by Michael Jouravlev :: Rate this Message:

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On 6/20/06, Don Brown <mrdon@...> wrote:
> As Shale and Action zero in on their first GA release, I don't think it is too
> late to ask the question, "Does Struts really need two frameworks?"  We have
> been putting out the message, "two frameworks, one community", for almost a year
> now, but I still sense a lot of confusion and even rejection from the Struts
> community.  The problem is for our whole history, Struts was a single framework,
> what you went to if you wanted to structure your web application according to
> Model2 principles.  Our attempts to turn Struts into an umbrella project, I
> feel, have failed.

Robert Cringely's Accidental Empires: Pages 293,294
  Microsoft began moving away from OS/2 in 1989 when it became
  clear that DOS wasn't going away, nor was it in Microsoft's
  interest for it to go away.  The best solution for Microsoft
  would be to put a new face of DOS, and that new face would
  be yet another version of Windows.  Windows 3.0 would include
  all that Microsoft had learned about graphical user interfaces
  from seven years of working on Macintosh applications.
  Windows 3.0 would also be aimed at ... 386 processors...
  would give users 90 percent of the features of OS/2...

Robert Cringely's Accidental Empires: Page 295
  [Gates] recognized, even if IBM didn't,
  that the market had grown to the point to where no one company
  could define and defend an operating system standard by itself.
  Without Microsoft's help, Gates thought IBM would fail. With
  IBM's help, which Gates viewed as meddling more than assistance,
  Microsoft might fail.  Time for a divorce.

Quotes pulled from comp.os.os2.advocacy, Oct 6 1992.

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