Re: Diverse questions

>> - do you work with the tweak tools? Since I found the navigation  
>> missing for example in the users of...
>>
>
> I avoid them. I really, really tried to develop using the Tweak IDE  
> tools, but this is an unfinished area. The good news is that you  
> don't have to. All the Morphic tools have been patched to be Tweak-
> compliant (so they could build the initial Tweak components, I  
> suppose)! I found developing in Morphic and running in Tweak to be  
> a perfectly viable solution. Even the Transcript talks across  
> worlds. The only real limitation I have found with that model is  
> that what you run in Tweak must be instantiated and live in the  
> Tweak world.

> Drop to Morphic, it works there (and works fine on Tweak classes).  
> For this reason (and others) I recommend avoiding the 'Tweak  
> Project' in favor of the 'Tweak Project Window' since the latter  
> gives you easy access to both worlds.
>
>> Some small feedback (tweak 1-2 update 590)
>>
>> - the creation of window or some widgets seems slow, there are  
>> some flashes, is it normal?
>
> I'm convinced the Tools are double-instantiated. It seems the  
> initial in-hand copy gets lost, and a new one is instantiated upon  
> drop, or something else is happening to run the init code twice. I  
> hate the paradigm anyway...I'm always annoyed when something  
> suddenly appears glued to my mouse cursor that I didn't put there.
>
>>
>> - sometimes I got slow redraws of part of the screen, is it normal?
>
> With the Tweak IDE Tools, yes (but Morphic can be slow to redraw,  
> say, dependent panes in browsers remote to a changed items too).  
> But with your own application, no. We have found the interface to  
> be quite responsive. Hermes (IMAP email client) is almost as fast  
> as my desktop (Apple's Mail.app client). There is an issue with the  
> event loop scheduling being a little tight in 'Tweak Project' that  
> causes some os user process hogging (and Morphic events to be  
> totally suspended). Other than those things, it is pretty well  
> behaved.

>> - the paintool does not draw correctly its subcomponents
>>
>> - I created a "sketmorph" and play with the menu and created a  
>> tile for this object. But I could not destroy it (pressing the x  
>> halo morph
>> did not work)
>
>> - I downloaded the latest version and clicked on update: it  
>> udpated but now I do not have the update
>> option anymore. Is is normal?
>
> No. The Menus should be invariant. I do remember a bug I saw awhile  
> back that dropped parts of the menu, but have not seen this lately.  
> Fix was to throw away the world, but I think there is a 'Restore  
> World Menu' that does the right thing.

>> I was wondering
>>
>> why we get
>> onLayoutChanged
>> | box |
>> <on: layoutChanged>
>> box := self localBounds insetBy: borderWidth.
>> board bounds: box.
>> palette topRight: box topRight.
>>
>> and not
>>
>> onLayoutChanged
>> <on: layoutChanged>
>>
>> | box |
>> box := self localBounds insetBy: borderWidth.
>> board bounds: box.
>> palette topRight: box topRight.
>>
>>
>> Feedback on the bank account tutorial
>> ============================
>> "and second, accessor methods (#balance and #balance:) have been  
>> automatically generated."
>> the browser did not refresh correctly I was seeing them until I  
>> reclicked on the class
>>
>
> Again, You were looking at a Tweak browser? Try the same experiment  
> in a Morphic browser. To be fair, Morphic has some missed redraws  
> as well, just fewer of them.
>
> With just a few months in Tweak (well, Squeak too) I'm far from an  
> expert. I don't have a history using Morphic (or MVC). Smalltalk  
> was a survey language that was interesting from my school days and  
> some later independent study. So, I'm a newby. Sort of.
>
> But the first time I changed a value in an object buried deep in a  
> collection, and had the visual representation of that change show  
> up in the UI widget the right way, and quickly, and after I had  
> done absolutely nothing to make it so (other than integrate the  
> widget correctly), I was hooked.